Summer transfer wish list - 2018

[Pauleta01]

Why do you even bother putting Kimmich on here?

The title of the thread says wish list! And to quote Bill Nic "It is better to fail aiming high than to succeed aiming low. And we of Spurs have set our sights very high, so high in fact that even failure will have in it an echo of glory."

 

[dtxspurs]

The title of the thread says wish list! And to quote Bill Nic "It is better to fail aiming high than to succeed aiming low. And we of Spurs have set our sights very high, so high in fact that even failure will have in it an echo of glory."

Understandable I suppose but then why put the rest of those players? If it's really who you wish for why not shoot for the stars on all of them?

 

[JayB]

I don't mean to be alarmist but the fact of the matter is that our recruitment has been very poor since we have been back in the CL.

In those two summer windows we brought in Wanyama, Janssen, N'koudou, Sissoko, Sanchez, Foyth, Aurier, Llorente and a third choice keeper. Of that list only two (Wanyama and Sanchez) can really be considered unambiguous successes at this point in time, and they both came in to compete in positions where we were relatively strong before they ever arrived. Foyth is one for the future so no problems there, the jury is out on Aurier (though the early signs don't exactly fill you with optimism), and the rest have been unmitigated disasters.

How much better off would we have been if we had stumped up 30m for Batshuayi -- the player Poch actually wanted -- and given our brilliant coach the opportunity to coax the kind of performance level he's shown at Dortmund out of him as opposed to wasting 29m on Janssen and Llorente? How much better off would we be if we'd done what it took to bring in Zaha -- the player Poch has actually wanted for years now -- as opposed to spunking something like 55m (not to mention wages for three players) on Njie, Nkoudou, and Sissoko in a failed attempt to fill the remit of pacey winger?

When you compare our recruitment to Liverpool's over the same time the failure of our approach becomes clear. They went out into the market and were willing to pay the fees and wages that were required to bring in proven quality at positions of need, and have been richly rewarded with performances that have seen the value of those players absolutely skyrocket (how much would Mane and Salah bring in now versus the 70m plus wages that they spent to get them?). We on the other hand have flushed a comparable amount of money down the drain on punt after punt who never had the quality to challenge our first team regulars, and have seen the value of those players decline precipitously.

I understand that we have been hamstrung by our wage budget, but with regular CL football and the new stadium that should no longer be a valid excuse. It's clear that we have reached a point where settling for bargain basement second- or third-choice targets simply isn't getting the job done either on the pitch or from a business perspective. With the seemingly imminent departures of Alderweireld, Rose, and Dembele there will be lots of business to be done in the summer, and we need to look to fill those holes with genuine Champions League level quality as opposed to the squad players we have largely brought in over the past two years.

 

[SpursDave88]

I don't mean to be alarmist but the fact of the matter is that our recruitment has been very poor since we have been back in the CL.

In those two summer windows we brought in Wanyama, Janssen, N'koudou, Sissoko, Sanchez, Foyth, Aurier, Llorente and a third choice keeper. Of that list only two (Wanyama and Sanchez) can really be considered unambiguous successes at this point in time, and they both came in to compete in positions where we were relatively strong before they ever arrived. Foyth is one for the future so no problems there, the jury is out on Aurier (though the early signs don't exactly fill you with optimism), and the rest have been unmitigated disasters.

How much better off would we have been if we had stumped up 30m for Batshuayi -- the player Poch actually wanted -- and given our brilliant coach the opportunity to coax the kind of performance level he's shown at Dortmund out of him as opposed to wasting 29m on Janssen and Llorente? How much better off would we be if we'd done what it took to bring in Zaha -- the player Poch has actually wanted for years now -- as opposed to spunking something like 55m (not to mention wages for three players) on Njie, Nkoudou, and Sissoko in a failed attempt to fill the remit of pacey winger?

When you compare our recruitment to Liverpool's over the same time the failure of our approach becomes clear. They went out into the market and were willing to pay the fees and wages that were required to bring in proven quality at positions of need, and have been richly rewarded with performances that have seen the value of those players absolutely skyrocket (how much would Mane and Salah bring in now versus the 70m plus wages that they spent to get them?). We on the other hand have flushed a comparable amount of money down the drain on punt after punt who never had the quality to challenge our first team regulars, and have seen the value of those players decline precipitously.

I understand that we have been hamstrung by our wage budget, but with regular CL football and the new stadium that should no longer be a valid excuse. It's clear that we have reached a point where settling for bargain basement second- or third-choice targets simply isn't getting the job done either on the pitch or from a business perspective. With the seemingly imminent departures of Alderweireld, Rose, and Dembele there will be lots of business to be done in the summer, and we need to look to fill those holes with genuine Champions League level quality as opposed to the squad players we have largely brought in over the past two years.

Agree with every word

 

[wishkah]

I want the scouting model to come true. Would Love a bale but would also love a sanchez too. I know we are calling out for experienced winners but i feel it's slightly knee jerk due to the past few weeks. In a way I feel that's got more to do with deoth

 

[thefierycamel]

As if Bayern would sell us kimmich when he's going to be the best in the world for the next 10 years....lmfao. Why would he leave Bayern for us anyway?

 

[HailKingLevy]

Does James Maddison not just turn into James Ward-Prowse in about 5 years?

 

[coys200]

Bit of a left field shout. But if you want to go young I really like Calvert lewin. He’s really quick just needs quality around him imo. Reckon could get him pretty cheap £15m and he’d learn off kane.

 

[UncleBuck]

Just no more shite!

No more N'shites, ben stamboulis, Vincents, sissokos etc

Gotta aim for the highest of quality if we are in the CL again. These cost big money. Shopping at West Bromwich high street is just a recipe for more "bottling" next season

Kane, Dele, eriksen, Dembele, and because of exile our defense is so comfortable. There's nothing on the bench to challenge them, to force them to improve

Players who can "do a job" should be that of youth players like winks, onomah, carter Vickers etc

Totally agree but when you look at the players you mentioned, now this really pains me to type this, Kane, Alli, Eriksen and Dembele actually cost less than Sissoko...
Clubs will always take punts on players, we need to more than the others around us because we can’t compete financially but I’d sooner see one marquee signing a season who the manager actually wants with one or two punts rather than us waste money.
All we seem to be doing is taking punt after punt and hoping someone comes good, for every Sanchez we’ve got a Soldado and Janssen, christ, them two cost us the best best part of £45m alone....
We need to strengthen our options with grade A players and keep our best performers if we want to play properly with the big boys.

 

[yankspurs]

PLUS, as a replacement for Dembele, you couldn't get in a more apt replacement at Spurs.

It was a loan with a view to buy, where the terms are already set. We'd likely be dealing with Lyon.

 

[Jaddas]

I don't mean to be alarmist but the fact of the matter is that our recruitment has been very poor since we have been back in the CL.

In those two summer windows we brought in Wanyama, Janssen, N'koudou, Sissoko, Sanchez, Foyth, Aurier, Llorente and a third choice keeper. Of that list only two (Wanyama and Sanchez) can really be considered unambiguous successes at this point in time, and they both came in to compete in positions where we were relatively strong before they ever arrived. Foyth is one for the future so no problems there, the jury is out on Aurier (though the early signs don't exactly fill you with optimism), and the rest have been unmitigated disasters.

How much better off would we have been if we had stumped up 30m for Batshuayi -- the player Poch actually wanted -- and given our brilliant coach the opportunity to coax the kind of performance level he's shown at Dortmund out of him as opposed to wasting 29m on Janssen and Llorente? How much better off would we be if we'd done what it took to bring in Zaha -- the player Poch has actually wanted for years now -- as opposed to spunking something like 55m (not to mention wages for three players) on Njie, Nkoudou, and Sissoko in a failed attempt to fill the remit of pacey winger?

When you compare our recruitment to Liverpool's over the same time the failure of our approach becomes clear. They went out into the market and were willing to pay the fees and wages that were required to bring in proven quality at positions of need, and have been richly rewarded with performances that have seen the value of those players absolutely skyrocket (how much would Mane and Salah bring in now versus the 70m plus wages that they spent to get them?). We on the other hand have flushed a comparable amount of money down the drain on punt after punt who never had the quality to challenge our first team regulars, and have seen the value of those players decline precipitously.

I understand that we have been hamstrung by our wage budget, but with regular CL football and the new stadium that should no longer be a valid excuse. It's clear that we have reached a point where settling for bargain basement second- or third-choice targets simply isn't getting the job done either on the pitch or from a business perspective. With the seemingly imminent departures of Alderweireld, Rose, and Dembele there will be lots of business to be done in the summer, and we need to look to fill those holes with genuine Champions League level quality as opposed to the squad players we have largely brought in over the past two years.

Couldn't agree more.

For example, target the best players at clubs just below us or a similar. For example, Pulisic, N'Dombele, De Ligt, De Jong, Bailey, Havertz, Heinrichs etc. Most of them should be just within our reach though I appreciate the German based probably hardest. These types of players have a very good chance of reaching the very top and I think can make an immediate impact and improve.

Liverpool did this with Salah and Mane and they've been good buys. These are players we should've gone for and would've improved as immeasurably.

Some of our targets are extremely odd e.g. Aurier, Sissoko. Maybe it was due to finances?

 

[SambaSpurs]

Would love to see this team next year:

 

[Monkey boy]

Would love to see this team next year:
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Ah the old 3-8-9-7 formation, if that doesn’t win us a trophy then nothing will.

 

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I don't mean to be alarmist but the fact of the matter is that our recruitment has been very poor since we have been back in the CL.

In those two summer windows we brought in Wanyama, Janssen, N'koudou, Sissoko, Sanchez, Foyth, Aurier, Llorente and a third choice keeper. Of that list only two (Wanyama and Sanchez) can really be considered unambiguous successes at this point in time, and they both came in to compete in positions where we were relatively strong before they ever arrived. Foyth is one for the future so no problems there, the jury is out on Aurier (though the early signs don't exactly fill you with optimism), and the rest have been unmitigated disasters.

How much better off would we have been if we had stumped up 30m for Batshuayi -- the player Poch actually wanted -- and given our brilliant coach the opportunity to coax the kind of performance level he's shown at Dortmund out of him as opposed to wasting 29m on Janssen and Llorente? How much better off would we be if we'd done what it took to bring in Zaha -- the player Poch has actually wanted for years now -- as opposed to spunking something like 55m (not to mention wages for three players) on Njie, Nkoudou, and Sissoko in a failed attempt to fill the remit of pacey winger?

When you compare our recruitment to Liverpool's over the same time the failure of our approach becomes clear. They went out into the market and were willing to pay the fees and wages that were required to bring in proven quality at positions of need, and have been richly rewarded with performances that have seen the value of those players absolutely skyrocket (how much would Mane and Salah bring in now versus the 70m plus wages that they spent to get them?). We on the other hand have flushed a comparable amount of money down the drain on punt after punt who never had the quality to challenge our first team regulars, and have seen the value of those players decline precipitously.

I understand that we have been hamstrung by our wage budget, but with regular CL football and the new stadium that should no longer be a valid excuse. It's clear that we have reached a point where settling for bargain basement second- or third-choice targets simply isn't getting the job done either on the pitch or from a business perspective. With the seemingly imminent departures of Alderweireld, Rose, and Dembele there will be lots of business to be done in the summer, and we need to look to fill those holes with genuine Champions League level quality as opposed to the squad players we have largely brought in over the past two years.

What a brilliant post, Mr. Jay B! Wish I could "winner" this more than once. Well said, sir!

 

[SambaSpurs]

Ah the old 3-8-9-7 formation, if that doesn’t win us a trophy then nothing will.

The cloning programme will set us back a few extra quid as well, should have added that in.

 

[Disconosebleed]

Would love to see this team next year:
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All that money spent on attacking midfielders and still no back-up for Kane, no back-up for Eriksen and a weaker defence and midfield than the current side. Are you trying to turn us into Arsenal?

 

[Disconosebleed]

Bit of a left field shout. But if you want to go young I really like Calvert lewin. He’s really quick just needs quality around him imo. Reckon could get him pretty cheap £15m and he’d learn off kane.

I think he'd be a good signing who can play up front while offering enough in wide positions to ensure he wouldn't be limited to cup games and filling in when Kane's injured, but I imagine he'd cost a lot more than £15m. Double it and maybe we'd be getting somewhere.

 

[whitelanefever]

Have you seen Ndombele from Lyon? He looks fucking good and is on loan there from a much smaller French side - if we can somehow get in there quickly before Lyon, he'd be a brilliant signing and would redeem the shite N'signings....

Lyon have a buying option & the way he has played will take it up..great business he'll be worth 50ml in 12months

 

[SambaSpurs]

All that money spent on attacking midfielders and still no back-up for Kane, no back-up for Eriksen and a weaker defence and midfield than the current side. Are you trying to turn us into Arsenal?

I think that would be 3 champions league quality players in, including one star. I'm past the stage now of bringing in suggested names like de Jong, de ligt (looks decent however I rate Foyth), Maddison, Calvert lewin, jay Rodriguez.

Addressing your points, Bale and Son are good enough to lead the line for me. All the money on attacking mids allows dele and Eriksen to drop deeper and be involved in the midfield chat (if we're suggesting attacking mids aren't midfielders as I think you might be). I think Lamela is good Eriksen back up. Also I'm in the camp of giving dier more game time at the back and having foyth as foyth CB.

Thought about replacing bale with sessegnon and de ligt, as I can't see us getting him. But I think Fulham will be promoted, so I went with my wish list.

 

[coys200]

I honestly believe we need to fix 4 areas in the squad:

- Both full back positions (Sessengon and one of Kimmich or Hysaj)
- Toby Replacement (De Ligt or Vestergaard)
- Moussa heir (Mahmoud Dahoud or Roberto Gagliardini
- Kane plan B (Alassane Plea or Mariano or Fekir)

5 new in's is not unfeasible

Sell Rose, Toby, Llorente and one of Tripps / Aurier, we could about right for the reported £100m estimated TFR spend as we enter into the new stadium)

Honestly can’t see us getting any new full backs unless one leaves. They will be deemed good enough. Unfortunately for a serious top end challenge I don’t think any of them currently are. They are all just ok.