Team v Hull

[TropicalYid]

I'm sorry but this is the problem, viewpoints like this. Picking players on perceived 'talent' even if they aren't producing the goods. So many fall into the trap of trying to pick our 11 best technical players with no thought to form and also other factors such attitude, determination, and quite frankly having a pair of bollocks about them when the going gets tough.

Well I`m sorry, viewpoints like yours is also part of the problem. Eriksen has had a dip in form/problems adapting Poch style football(like all of our players), and now hes not good enough. Now you want him dropped and maybe shipped on come january?? I bet if you put that boy in an Man U, arsenal or Liverpool team he would shine like a diamond.
My point is that I think this boy should be an important part of our team. He is one of our biggest talents. Thats why he needs to play. If you put this guy out of the team how can he come good then?

 

[ClintEastwould]

Well I`m sorry, viewpoints like yours is also part of the problem. Eriksen has had a dip in form/problems adapting Poch style football(like all of our players), and now hes not good enough. Now you want him dropped and maybe shipped on come january?? I bet if you put that boy in an Man U, arsenal or Liverpool team he would shine like a diamond.
My point is that I think this boy should be an important part of our team. He is one of our biggest talents. Thats why he needs to play. If you put this guy out of the team how can he come good then?

Why has any manager ever dropped one of their perceived best players? To knock off any complacency and let them know that despite their obvious talents they have to put in the work and graft. Eriksen is not indespinsable either, we had Sigurdsson who is arguably just as good.

 

[JohanTheYid]

Lloris (C)

Dier Fazio Vertonghen Rose

Stambouli Mason

Chadli Kane Eriksen

Soldado

 

[EdmontonJohn]

Lloris (C)

Dier Fazio Vertonghen Rose/Davies

Stambouli Capoue

Chadli Lamela Eriksen

Soldado

Basically, I think we need to have two players sit and protect the attacking fullbacks/slightly lightweight front 4.

Mason is a better passer/creative player .. but since he has been in the team we ahve been way to open and results have been worse ... his time will come when the rest of the team can help implement Poch' pattern of play.

Our best front 4 played well at City and could link well, especially with a bit more protection .. and I would like to see them given a run together.

 

[ajspurs]

Unfortunately, Eriksen's most fruitful period came playing in Chadli's current position. Seeing as Chadli is our top league scorer this presents a bit of a problem (even though Eriksen is the better player).

There is also the Lamela conundrum. For me, he has to play in the middle. Too predictable on the right and unable to play the orthodox wide man on the left.

For me, we are desperately short of pace and fir that reason I'd play Lennon on the right, Lamela in the middle and either Eriksen or Chadli on the left.

Shunting Eriksen out to the right (even if he drifts about ) is not the answer.

Bang on with everything mate. Chadli simply can't be dropped because he is the only one who seems to be scoring. And yes for me too, Lamela has to play in the middle. He simply can't beat players out wide IMO, tries with mulitple stepovers, but never really gets anywhere unless he goes sidewards and inside, as opposed to forward with the ball.
The idea of Lennon on the right is refreshing, god I'd love to see him just running at his fullbacks again. And to be honest, even to see him repeatedly do his predictiable shift to the right and chip a ball in would be a lot more than what we normally see.

 

[mpickard2087]

Well I`m sorry, viewpoints like yours is also part of the problem. Eriksen has had a dip in form/problems adapting Poch style football(like all of our players), and now hes not good enough. Now you want him dropped and maybe shipped on come january?? I bet if you put that boy in an Man U, arsenal or Liverpool team he would shine like a diamond.
My point is that I think this boy should be an important part of our team. He is one of our biggest talents. Thats why he needs to play. If you put this guy out of the team how can he come good then?

Selecting players regardless of form and signalling that they are guaranteed a place every week is a sure-fire way of players getting comfortable, their development stalling and even more inconsistent performances.

I did not at any point advocate selling him, however him, and others, have to strive for consistency and be motivated, even fearful, that if they don't perform then someone else will take their place. A kick up the backside is needed every now and again.

 

[TropicalYid]

Selecting players regardless of form and signalling that they are guaranteed a place every week is a sure-fire way of players getting comfortable, their development stalling and even more inconsistent performances.

I did not at any point advocate selling him, however him, and others, have to strive for consistency and be motivated, even fearful, that if they don't perform then someone else will take their place. A kick up the backside is needed every now and again.

But the situation at Spurs is kind of remarkable. Everyone is shit(exept Hugo and Kane). I feel its to easy to point to Eriksen and say "hes not good enough, drop him". If we are going to get out of this mess we need to get players like Eriksen to perform, to understand and adapt to MPs system. Thats why I want him to start on sunday and all the coming PL games.

 

[mpickard2087]

But the situation at Spurs is kind of remarkable. Everyone is shit(exept Hugo and Kane). I feel its to easy to point to Eriksen and say "hes not good enough, drop him". If we are going to get out of this mess we need to get players like Eriksen to perform, to understand and adapt to MPs system. Thats why I want him to start on sunday and all the coming PL games.

Maybe Poch needs to adapt to what he has, if every single player cant do as he asks... It also has to be asked whether Eriksen and Lamela can co-exist in the same team.

A line has to be drawn though, and Eriksen has looked flimsy all season and needs to have a bigger impact on games. Yeah he might eventually find form, but for me it isn't healthy for players to be picked week in, week out just because we think they are the best players. The best clubs would set standards, you aren't doing your job and you are out of the team.

 

[TEESSIDE1]

Hull play 3-5-2, therefore we need pace in the team on both/either wing as Robertson and El-Egyptian will be running freely at Dier (likely RB) and Rose all game, which doesn't bode well for our shambolic defence.

Lloris

Chiriches/Kaboul (rb)
Dier
Vertonghen
Rose

Stambouli
Capoue
Mason

Lennon?
Chadli

Soldado/Kane

Bench:

Vorm, Chiriches/Kaboul, Davies, Eriksen, Lamela, Townsend, Kane/Soldado

 

[Cavehillspur]

With WBA, Toon and Stoke ending poor away records when they all visited the Lane recently and then Villa finding the net for the first time in 6 games when we played, you just know Hull will end this barren run against our shower on Sunday.

From BBC

Anybody who knows the Hull boss will know he will not tolerate another lacklustre display. Incidentally, their last Premier League goal came against North London opposition, some five hours and 14 minutes ago, in October's 2-2 draw at Arsenal.

At a loss as to what the team should be:

Lloris plus 10 others the way im feeling at the moment.

 

[SpursSince1980]

Not sure about the team either. just want to see pooch show that he has the ability to be flexible with this approach. it's clear as day, that anytime we go with two up front and play with more width in midfield we look like a pretty decent team.

either way, we need to try something different:

Lloris

Cheech
Dier
Vertonghen
Rose

Mason
Dembele
Strambouli

Eriksen
Lamela
Soldado

 

[Cavehillspur]

Hull play 3-5-2, therefore we need pace in the team

Therein lies one of our major problems, we have fuck all pace in the team, it's depressing.

 

[SpurSince57]

Bang on with everything mate. Chadli simply can't be dropped because he is the only one who seems to be scoring. And yes for me too, Lamela has to play in the middle. He simply can't beat players out wide IMO, tries with mulitple stepovers, but never really gets anywhere unless he goes sidewards and inside, as opposed to forward with the ball.
The idea of Lennon on the right is refreshing, god I'd love to see him just running at his fullbacks again. And to be honest, even to see him repeatedly do his predictiable shift to the right and chip a ball in would be a lot more than what we normally see.

If you insist on playing Soldado up front on his own (or even in a 4-4-2) I think you've got to play with natural wingers; most of his goals for Valencia seemed to come from crosses or little cut-backs into the area, and the latter is something Lennon does well. Playing Soldado with inverted wingers is plain perverse.

 

[0-Tibsy-0]

Therein lies one of our major problems, we have fuck all pace in the team, it's depressing.

We do have a few fast players, it's just those we do have are also those that are lacking in technical ability unfortunately.

 

[Bobbins]

Not even bothered who plays. How uncaring must you be about Spurs for that? Literally not bothered.

 

[ajspurs]

If you insist on playing Soldado up front on his own (or even in a 4-4-2) I think you've got to play with natural wingers; most of his goals for Valencia seemed to come from crosses or little cut-backs into the area, and the latter is something Lennon does well. Playing Soldado with inverted wingers is plain perverse.

Without a doubt. I actually watched a youtube video of him again yesterday and in doing so I was reminded of the nature of most of his goals and I just thought that it was clear to see why he hasn't had much success with us. I'm not saying he hasn't missed chances or that he shouldn't have a few more goals to his tally, but there's just no comparison when you look at the sevice he received from Valencia and that of which he has with us.

 

[Blake Griffin]

Not even bothered who plays. How uncaring must you be about Spurs for that? Literally not bothered.

as long as hugo, mason, kane play and capoue doesn't then i'm happy.

 

[Cavehillspur]

We do have a few fast players, it's just those we do have are also those that are lacking in technical ability unfortunately.

I can only really think of Lennon and Townsend to be honest and they're both fringe players this season and also distinctly average. Townsend also seems to have lost a yard of pace since he came back from his injury at the start of last season.

 

[0-Tibsy-0]

I can only really think of Lennon and Townsend to be honest and they're both fringe players this season and also distinctly average. Townsend also seems to have lost a yard of pace since he came back from his injury at the start of last season.

Walker and Rose too.

Those are the positions we most need effective pace to make the current formation work.

Unfortunately Rose' crossing ability leaves a lot to be desired, and Walker isn't the best at picking out the right ball either. However having him back (and his attitude) will be important for the effectiveness of 4231...

 

[dondo]

Well I`m sorry, viewpoints like yours is also part of the problem. Eriksen has had a dip in form/problems adapting Poch style football(like all of our players), and now hes not good enough. Now you want him dropped and maybe shipped on come january?? I bet if you put that boy in an Man U, arsenal or Liverpool team he would shine like a diamond.
My point is that I think this boy should be an important part of our team. He is one of our biggest talents. Thats why he needs to play. If you put this guy out of the team how can he come good then?

A spell out of the prem team could do him good in the long run and it would send a message to the other players