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[RussellYid]

Yeah, he was crapola. First of all, there's not that many talented QB's that are NFL-worthy. It's such a hard position to play. Not even every team's starter is that great. Nevermind the backup. You'll get a ton of QB's who excel in college but don't make the grade in the NFL for whatever reason. So many Heisman trophy (awarded to the 'best' college player that year) winners have not made it over the years it's untrue. Case in point, Troy Smith won the Heisman last year, he was drafted in the 5th round by the Ravens and is slumming it as their 3rd string QB. Why? Because he was deemed to short. The tiniest thing that scouts can nitpick will be scrutinised. You literally have to be perfection personified to even get your shot.

QB depth in the NFL is worse than any other position, not only because there's so few quality QB's avalaible and so those that are available will likely get a starting gig somewhere else (see Jeff Garcia). But, also because a starting QB plays the whole game (99% of the time), every game. Backups don't get a look in unless there's an injury or the starter sucks(in which case if you're the backup you suck even worse anyway). On teams that are considered to have good QB depth, you'll either find an old, experienced QB who's seeing out his career (see Brad Johnson on the Cowboys, Kurt Warner on the Cards, Trent Dilfer on the 49'ers) or a young, relatively new QB who's being groomed and/or a reliable but unspectacular 'move the chains' backup (see Kolb and Feeley on the Eagles). The fact that in those two examples Brad Johnson and Feeley have got it done in the NFL before is why those two teams are generally considered to have the best QB depth in the NFL.

And before Leinart's and Smith's injuries, you could also say the same about the Cards and 49'ers.

So yeah, QB depth is generally not good. But backup QB's generally don't see the light of day anyway.

As for the Jags, well, they're a running team, so they should be running all the time no matter who their QB is. That's how they beat the Colts last year. They pounded the ball and ran for something ridiculous like 375 yards. This year, they change it up and look what happens. Then in the 4th quarter they revert back to their 'O-line dominatrix run all over your face' game and go straight down and score a TD. That game was a prime example of a coach trying to get too cute. Obviously having Bob Sanders helped the Colts this time around, but still, run the damn ball. Something i wish the Eagles would do more.

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Great run-down.

Cheers mate.

 

[LSUY]

Need some help. I've been having a debate with a mate about which rugby players could make it in the NFL (obviously after being trained to play the game).

So far I've come up with:

Jason Robinson (at his peak): the guy was fast enough and could take (and dish out) big hits.

Jonny Wilkinson: would make a good punter or goal kicker as he is a world class kicker. During his peak Wilko could have played defense because he was a good tackler.

The Chargers were looking at getting Wilkinson in 2003. They sent a scout to watch him in the World Cup to see whether he could make it as a kicker and apparently the scout said 'yes he would'.

Names like Habana, Johnson, etc., have been thrown up but it hard to think of what position they could play.

 

[redrhino]

Johnson used to play american football in his youth for the Leicester British League team.

I would say that most professional international rugby players would make it in the NFL. Props could do a job in the offensive line, locks may be a little out of place, back rows would generally make good RB/FB, some scrum halves would likely struggle, 10s would be kickers generally, 11-15 range between TE, WR, RB depending on the individual.

 

[LSUY]

I've just got back from the game at Wembley. The game wasn't that good but the experience was brilliant. In fact I think I've got more photos of the cheerleaders than the actual game. Also when John Terry came out I, along with the vast majority of the stadium started to boo.

One final thing, DFF, DTA, I hope I made you two proud - I gave Eli abuse the entire time he was on the field with chants asking why we didn't we get Peyton instead and various other chants about how crap Eli and the Giants are.

 

[austintexasspur]

The Giants may be crap, and I still don't know why they kept Coughlin, but I'd have taken 6-2 at halfway, after the losing 6 in-a-row at the end of last season.

I'd be happy with a WC...

 

[ST]

What a match-up this week, DFF. You were way out in front and then another huge week from Brady dragged me back into contention, so now just a straight matter of who does best tomorrow out of Driver and Marshall.

 

[DFF]

Brady is this year's LT. Get out of jail free card. :-|

Good job on the Elijah bashing, teemu.

 

[Darrkespur]

bit of a quiet week for my RBs - Kevin Jones did well on my bench again - but it looks like Roethlisberger and Antonio Gates have got me enough points to win my matchup against Tobi. I'd like to have a bigger week next week though (and have a few patriots in my lineup but there ya go)

 

[ST]

Brady is this year's LT. Get out of jail free card. :-|

Yeah, true that. And to think I almost didn't take him when I did because I thought it was probably too early to draft a QB!

 

[DFF]

Yeah, it was between Palmer and Brady for me. I plumped for Palmer. :bang:


Teemu, we'll be needing visual evidence of those cheerleaders, by the way. :wink:

 

[deathtoarsenal]

Also when John Terry came out I, along with the vast majority of the stadium started to boo.

I gave Eli abuse the entire time he was on the field with chants asking why we didn't we get Peyton instead and various other chants about how crap Eli and the Giants are.

:clap: Good work, sir.

 

[LSUY]

Teemu, we'll be needing visual evidence of those cheerleaders, by the way. :wink:

:lol: Will do, once I get my camera back. You'll have to make do with the picture from my mobile until then.

 

[DFF]

:rofl:

 

[ihawk98]

bring on the cheerleader pics please....

 

[dvdhopeful]

Quite a few new NFL matches up as there seemed to be quite a few big match up this week. Get betting!! :up:

 

[tobi]

The picture - :rofl:

I want to do some betting, what do I need to know?

 

[dvdhopeful]

The picture - :rofl:

I want to do some betting, what do I need to know?

In "Sports And Gambling" look at the stickied threads at the top, choose your matchup, click the box next to the team your betting on, enter the amount of VCash you want to bet, then press bet, and your done :up:

 

[claw_diddy]

Pats to sweep the remaining fixtures, what are the odds on that?!

 

[deathtoarsenal]

Pats to sweep the remaining fixtures, what are the odds on that?!

7/2 according to oddschecker.

4/1 if you include them going on to win the superbowl as well.

 

[LSUY]

I was impressed with Wembley stadium. The arch is still shit compared to the old towers but I do love how open it is. At the Lane and even parts of the old Wembley it is/was hard to move whereas now you can wander over to the other end of the stand without any security stopping you whatsoever - which is great for when Wembley give you one seat in row 24 and then your mate a seat in row 30 but at the other end of the stand.

Anyway back to the important topic at hand. The wait is now over. Here are some photos of the cheerleaders. I haven't include photos from the cheerleaders from the Tailgate party because they are fakes! :evil: Unless the Dolphins are relocating to Essex then they weren't real cheerleaders.