The Are Tottenham Still A Bigger Club Than Chelsea Thread...

[zepstar]

So, on this day, the 21st May 2008, Chelsea have the chance to do something Totttenham Hotspur have never done. Win the European Cup.

So this is merely a discussion thread. Are Tottenham still a bigger club than Chelsea? If Chelsea win the cup tonight, does that confirm that they have acheived more than us (despite our long and glorious history), albeit thanks to a wealthy russian oil man?

Or will Chelsea, despite their millions, never be as big a club as Tottenham.

Thoughts Please

 

[Dougal]

Are Forest a bigger club than Spurs?

 

[ever]

they have the better recent history
we have the better overall history

 

[Fordy]

i read somewhere that sunderland had won the league more times than us?! (might be wrong)

 

[Flatters]

No.

 

[milkman]

Us because;

We have the better fans
We don't have a filthy rich owner called Abromavich
Our players aren't a bunch of wankers
Our players don't dive, cheat and waste time
We aren't owned by a foreigner
We don't waste ridicilous amounts of money on players aged 29 (Shevchenko)

the list is endless! :wink:

 

[zepstar]

Are Forest a bigger club than Spurs?

That's a definate no. Even when they won the European Cup, they couldn't fill the city ground. i think even cloughie said the people of nottingham didn't deserve it.

 

[striebs]

Chelsea will never be a big club

Let them have their 90 minutes of glory .

 

[DC_Boy]

I don't really like this big club comparisons stuff, cos people can twist the argument anyway they want it

Some people think villa are a bigger club than chelsea and some people think Sunderland are bigger than us and even that West Ham are bigger than us
But for the record I think CFC became a bigger club than us the day they won their first Prem

In light of CFC's debts some people are talking of CFC one day doing a 'Leeds' the fact is they nearly did a Leeds - they were within days of going into admin - then they won the lottery big-time and became one of the big 4 and their trophies this decade have eclipsed us massively

had they not been saved from admin it could have been us in the Big 4- and we certainly wouldn't be having this debate

 

[Bonjour]

I have a firm belief that Spurs will still be around, probably similar level to now - fluctuating between mid-table and top 4-5, long after Chelsea have crashed and burned.

 

[DC_Boy]

I have a firm belief that Spurs will still be around, probably similar level to now - fluctuating between mid-table and top 4-5, long after Chelsea have crashed and burned.

Hi Bonjour - at best I've probably only got fifty years left on this planet and more likely about twenty five, and I honestly don't expect in my lifetime to see Spurs win as many titles as CFc - (it currently stands 3-1 in CFc's favour, though don't remember their '55' title at the time being way too young - remember the Chelsea pensioner jokes though by the early 60s )

To me in 10 years time CFC will still be doing better than us due to the enormous gap they've opened up-

of course things can change - it's just that on the whole power tends to stay with the powerful - not always of course

maybe in twenty years when the stadium is finally built/expanded and we've got mega rich owners in, maybe -

I just hope I'm healthy enough to appreciate it

 

[zepstar]

I think the main point is, because of the massive gap now between us and chelsea it's hard to imagine there ever being a time when we can chalenge them consistantley.

But i said it at the time and i'll say it again. Castles built on sand melt into the sea eventually.

 

[ROBinBKK]

Are we not all a tad dellusional?

What constitues a big club?

If you feel we are a big club then so are forest and villa. Are they bigger clubs than Chelsea? I think we'd say no, then nor are we....

 

[Dougal]

To say Chelsea are bigger than us is taking a very short term look at things. It's like saying we're bigger than Liverpool and Chelsea and Arsenal because they've won fuck all lately whereas Man U, Pompey and ourselves have.

 

[orkneyspur]

I also don't like the 'is this club bigger than that club' debate.
Are Manure Bigger than Liverpool are bigger then Arse are bigger than Chelski. It really doesn't matter. :shrug:

Alex Ferguson doesn't give a shit about whether Manure are bigger than anyone else, he just's wants to win stuff. I respect him for that.

What is really important to me as a long time 'older' Spurs fan, is than we win trophies.
A thread on this has already run this year, but imo, as we have won a trophy this year, Arse haven't, Liverpool haven't and Chelski won't, we have been more successful this season than all three.

Success is NEVER coming second. (or 3rd or 4th)

 

[Dougal]

Success is NEVER coming second.

Men! :snooty:

 

[DC_Boy]

IWhat is really important to me as a long time 'older' Spurs fan, is than we win trophies.
)

too right Orkney - which is why I still say we've had a good/very good season

 

[DOX]

I don't really like this big club comparisons stuff, cos people can twist the argument anyway they want it

Some people think villa are a bigger club than chelsea and some people think Sunderland are bigger than us and even that West Ham are bigger than us
But for the record I think CFC became a bigger club than us the day they won their first Prem

In light of CFC's debts some people are talking of CFC one day doing a 'Leeds' the fact is they nearly did a Leeds - they were within days of going into admin - then they won the lottery big-time and became one of the big 4 and their trophies this decade have eclipsed us massively

had they not been saved from admin it could have been us in the Big 4- and we certainly wouldn't be having this debate

I must concur.

 

[Glenn_Purvey]

I read in London Lite yesterday on the train great european nights for london teams.

Spurs had 3
Chelsea had 1
arsenal had 1
West ham had 1

it went into depth how spurs won the first european trophy and the first major european trophy which was the uefa cup.

we have the better history but i would say that wouldn't i :wink:

 

[DC_Boy]

But i said it at the time and i'll say it again. Castles built on sand melt into the sea eventually.

well I said at the time that CFC won the lottery that it was their very lucky day and so it has proved

and I don't think CFC's castle is built on sand anymore

Bates's castle was - that board did gamble the family silver, lost big-time, but a bit like Toon got away with it (and Toon seem to have got let off lightly in the press - was it something like £200m they've had wiped clean - of course they've won nowt so it doesn't hurt me the way the CFC suceess story hurts me to the core)

CFC are now a massive global brand and the genie simply won't be put back in the bottle-

as I've said the two titles they've won are probably more than I expect us to win in the next 25 years

they're tonight in the European Cup Final - something I've never seen during my nearly 50 years of supporting Spurs - and something alas I'll probably never see in my lifetime