The BIG Harry Redknapp Hokey Cokey Thread - With NEW POLL added!

[Arnoldtoo]

Eden Hazard's coming Harry.

If you stay, not only will you be managing a team with a better chance of winning something than England, you'll be managing a team who are better than England!

 

[AngerManagement]

I honestly think Harry would regret it if he took the England job

I just can't see this current England set up competing in the next two major tournaments and I believe all he stands to do is write himself into the history books as a failure like McClaren and Taylor if he does take this position.

Best he could hope for would be a Frank Bruno style glorious loveable loser role if his team went down fighting, like Venables after Euro96

Fact is though El Tel had one of the best England strikeforces I've ever seen at his dispoal, a solid defence and keeper and Gazza adding that spark of magic.

This England team is set up to fail and the next manager is set up for a life of stress and ridicule, I know Harry dreams of this job but it is a posion challice and I am sure he will not take the decision as lightly as maybe we all expect him to (I mean he might not just jump at the chance when he weighs up all the factors at play)

Jose won't be coming to Spurs next season in my opinion so those of you who don't mind HArry leaving because you think we will get Jose might want to be careful what you wish for.

 

[StartingPrice]

more articles like this please, and nice to see them having a go when he hasn't even said he'll take the job yet

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/feb/13/harry-redknapp-england

Brett...Brett, is that you? :grin:

 

[Muller2]

If we could snare someone like Hazard then hopefully that will help keep modric happy (fingers crossed!!)

 

[Mr Pink]

were is Brett?, havn't seen him on here for ages...

 

[StartingPrice]

He was naughty...and got sacked.
Went ballistic when we signed Friedel.
He was, like, frothing at the mouth with this obsession that 'Arry wanted to swamp the team with a band of OAPs.
Didn't matter how many times it was demonstrated that we had signed plenty of young players since redknapp joined, that this was what our young squad needed, or that the average age was still quite low. He just went berserk.

Pity, really, because, despite his moments, I quite liked young Brett.

 

[belsunz]

For those suggesting David Moyes doesn't have a pull on Hazard, don't forget young Eden probably knows all about him via his national teammate Marouane Fellaini. Players talk about this stuff while on international duty...

 

[Spurs_Bear]

He was naughty...and got sacked.
Went ballistic when we signed Friedel.
He was, like, frothing at the mouth with this obsession that 'Arry wanted to swamp the team with a band of OAPs.
Didn't matter how many times it was demonstrated that we had signed plenty of young players since redknapp joined, that this was what our young squad needed, or that the average age was still quite low. He just went berserk.

Pity, really, because, despite his moments, I quite liked young Brett.

I didn't always agree with brett.spurs, but he is missed round here I feel.

 

[StartingPrice]

I didn't always agree with brett.spurs, but he is missed round here I feel.

I agree, but it was pointed out to him just how wrong he was that Redknapp only signed old players, but he continued to go ballistic about it anyway - I think he was quite abusive about it, and I think he was giving warnings. Like I said, I think the signing of Hell-Boy tipped him dangerously over the edge.

 

[tototoner]

Harry talking on Abu Ahabi Sports, thought he went abroad for a break from the media ?

also someone will need to tell him we play Arsenal and then Man Utd

his quotes though do open the possibility that Harry would manage England just at the Euro's while staying with Tottenham

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/footba...ngland-manager-can-be-part-time-for-euro-2012

The Spurs boss is overwhelming favourite for the vacant position among fans, players and media experts, but suggests he wouldn’t be ready to permanently walk away from White Hart Lane just yet.

‘I'd be a liar if I said I wasn't the popular choice,’ Redknapp told Abu Dhabi Sports.

‘I know I am, it's been everywhere, in every paper every day.

‘But it's not an easy one. I have a good job and I work with good people and I have a good team.

‘Just to walk away now, when we're in such a good position, it wouldn't be fair, it wouldn't be fair on Tottenham. I have to really keep focusing on Tottenham.

‘This week we have Stevenage in the Cup, then we have Man Utd, then we have Arsenal, then we have Chelsea. We have some fantastic games. It's important time for me with Tottenham.’

However, Redknapp does believe it’s possible for a manager to take charge of a major international tournament on a part-time basis, which opens the possibility of the 64-year-old stepping in to steady England’s Euro 2012 ship, which has been rocked by Fabio Capello’s shock resignation.

He added: ‘Part-time? In the short term I think it's possible for the European Championships. But I think in the long term it's not possible to manage a club team and manage a national team.

‘It's difficult enough to manage in the Premier League without having to worry about managing the England team as well. You want to be watching England players play, you want to be watching the opposition.

‘I think, whoever they give the job to, could only do the one job. Maybe for the Euros, it's not such a problem but once the Euros are finished and the new season starts in England, the manager has to be a Premier League manager - if it's someone who manages in the Premier League - or the England manager.

'To do the two jobs, it would be impossible.’

 

[steve]

Harry's thinking along the only sensible lines there are by the sounds of it.

He can fulfill his ambition to manage England (in the Euro's) and still carry on at Spurs - the perfect compromise for him at least. The FA might not like it but the clamour for H will be huge and they'll have huge balls if they can turn this compromise down.

Euro's finish, H carries on at Spurs, England appoint their new long term turnip - everybody happy.

The more I think about it I just can't see him walking away from Spurs - it's way too exciting and I just don't think he'll do it...

 

[Mr Pink]

Just posted this in another thread:

I think that's the best outcome for everybody involved - Harry, Tottenham, the FA...and fans for both England and Tottenham.

Its perfect, keep focused on job at hand until the end of the season with us, take England to the Euro's and have a good crack at it where he's in a win win situation - if he does well he'll get bummed by the media, if he doesn't there are huge mitigating factors in his favour - no time to stamp mark on team etc.

Then return to Spurs for the new season ahead and get back to the day to day stuff that he loves and continue on with this fabulous squad he has at his disposal with CL to look forward to.

England can then start their proper search for a manager that will be there for the long term and start to build with the younger players coming through.

I just can't see Harry being interested in waiting two years for the World Cup in Brazil where we have virtually no chance of winning it, or even progressing far in it...in all likelihood, and having to wait every two months to be involved in a game of football through qualification.

 

[Mr Pink]

Just to add to that as well...I think the risk of Harry being distracted and losing focus with Spurs is reduced greatly if he knows he's returning for next season.

 

[Mr Pink]

I'm actually now convinced if the FA agree to this, it will happen exactly like that.

Happy days :grin:

 

[tototoner]

Harry's thinking along the only sensible lines there are by the sounds of it.

He can fulfill his ambition to manage England (in the Euro's) and still carry on at Spurs - the perfect compromise for him at least. The FA might not like it but the clamour for H will be huge and they'll have huge balls if they can turn this compromise down.

Euro's finish, H carries on at Spurs, England appoint their new long term turnip - everybody happy.

The more I think about it I just can't see him walking away from Spurs - it's way too exciting and I just don't think he'll do it...

beginning to think this is the best for all parties

If England do well at the Euro's like get out of the Group Harry will be a hero

If they fail and I expect they will then everyone will blame Capello

 

[sloth]

Guys, please don't start convincing yourselves. Not saying it won't happen the way you're hoping, but wishing really hard doesn't make it anything more than an outside chance.

I honestly don't think he's talking about taking them for the Euros and the coming back to us (that's not even part-time is it, it's temporary), what I think he's trying to say is he wouldn't abandon us before the end of the season, but if the FA are desperate to have someone in soon, to oversee the preparations for the Euros, then Redknapp can see that that is a role that he could do part-time.

Basically, he's saying he's going to take the job, don't push him to take it now, but he'll meet you half-way and take it part-time now and full-time after that.

 

[steve]

Guys, please don't start convincing yourselves. Not saying it won't happen the way you're hoping, but wishing really hard doesn't make it anything more than an outside chance.

I honestly don't think he's talking about taking them for the Euros and the coming back to us (that's not even part-time is it, it's temporary), what I think he's trying to say is he wouldn't abandon us before the end of the season, but if the FA are desperate to have someone in soon, to oversee the preparations for the Euros, then Redknapp can see that that is a role that he could do part-time.

Basically, he's saying he's going to take the job, don't push him to take it now, but he'll meet you half-way and take it part-time now and full-time after that.

I think arrogance is getting the better of you Sloth. You've presented one interpretation of these quotes, some of us have produced another that's all.

And it's not what I wish for so much as what is sensible, considering most factors. In fact your closing sentence is a much greater leap than anything I or others wrote. He's saying quite clearly it can't be done part time and he owes Tottenham a lot. IF he's going it'll be when the season is finished not before.

Considering what is happening at Spurs, the poison chalice that is England and what reliable people like ryan and JJ have said I would be amazed if H left before season end - in fact I'll go a £50 site donation bet with you if you want?

 

[Mr Pink]

But is the ambiguity surrounding the latest comments deliberate? Gives wriggle room doesn't it?

 

[tototoner]

I think arrogance is getting the better of you Sloth. You've presented one interpretation of these quotes, some of us have produced another that's all.

And it's not what I wish for so much as what is sensible, considering most factors. In fact your closing sentence is a much greater leap than anything I or others wrote. He's saying quite clearly it can't be done part time and he owes Tottenham a lot. IF he's going it'll be when the season is finished not before.

Considering what is happening at Spurs, the poison chalice that is England and what reliable people like ryan and JJ have said I would be amazed if H left before season end - in fact I'll go a £50 site donation bet with you if you want?

I think that is about as certain now as us finishing in the Top 3, it's if he stays after the season that concerns everyone

 

[steve]

But is the ambiguity surrounding the latest comments deliberate? Gives wriggle room doesn't it?

Maybe. Like all these 'quotes' we have to consider the questions that were asked which we mostly never see or hear so in that sense context can be lost.

He might go PT for England before season end but I doubt it very much.