The Cricket Thread

[midoshairband]

As a bit of a purist, in a way I'm glad. Our best batsmen and bowlers are playing Test Cricket. If England wanted to pick the best T20 side, at the moment, that's Bairstow, Root, Stokes, Anderson, et al.

I'd honestly not be remotely fussed if they binned international T20s completely.

not sure about Jimmy tbh.

our batting is always what wins us ODI games - we don't have great death bowling, for example. and we're missing a million seamers through injury.

perhaps they were holding left arm seamer trials tonight.

 

[Ossie'sAardvark]

Far from it, T20 is a game of skill and tactics. India were fantastic but England were poor with the ball and hopeless with the bat. They were never in it.

Since you’re giving tips out and you’re the one being arsey with everyone, here’s a tip… go play with the traffic, you’ll enjoy it.

Sorry, I'm actually a true test fan. Everything you've said in my opinion is bollox

 

[midoshairband]

yep, I thought it was a bit "off cuff".. Trying out maybe?

i guess the first choice batting is pretty much settled when all are available.

seemed like they were trying out bowlers tonight.

 

[Pebble Dash]

Sorry, I'm actually a true test fan. Everything you've said in my opinion is bollox

Bell…

 

[Ossie'sAardvark]

Bell…

END

 

[Annabel]

IMO Test format will be dead in a decade. ODIs will be the preferred format for internationals.

 

[Ossie'sAardvark]

i guess the first choice batting is pretty much settled when all are available.

seemed like they were trying out bowlers tonight.

i guess the first choice batting is pretty much settled when all are available.

seemed like they were trying out bowlers tonight.

I thought India's bowling was tight. Deserved it . I enjoyed it tbh. We're gonna have to get used to up/down results with our new setup. If we go safe, we'll not enjoy things like the second inns of the last test. Swings and roundabouts I suppose.

 

[Ossie'sAardvark]

IMO Test format will be dead in a decade. ODIs will be the preferred format for internationals.

not now IMO. A new format is being set as we type!

 

[UncleBuck]

Thought we done well to reduce them to under 200 but when JB, Roy and Liv only take four off twenty balls at the front then that’s where we lost it.
Fair play to India as their bowling at the top, especially Kumar, was bang on, them’s the breaks….??

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

I see posting Spurs Match Thread stylee has finally made it's way into the Cricket thread

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Moan? They’ve just been hammered by an Indian side missing their 5 best players.

And we're missing Stokes, Root and Bairstow. Not to mention Morgan retiring. (Although he was on a really poor run of form when he went)

They've given a few players a chance and they'll continue to do so until the next World Cup in November. Losing a game or a series here and there is going to happen. These are world class players we're up against, India have a huge depth of quality in the T20 format.

 

[Pebble Dash]

Thought we done well to reduce them to under 200 but when JB, Roy and Liv only take four off twenty balls at the front then that’s where we lost it.
Fair play to India as their bowling at the top, especially Kumar, was bang on, them’s the breaks….??

India were fantastic from a bowling perspective and decent for 90% of their innings with the bat. Their fielding left a lot to be desired… England would have been out for a lot less than what they got if India hadn’t dropped so many catches.

We need to remember England are ranked number 2 in the world. Yes they’re missing a few players but so were India. Englands T20 has tailored off over the last half a dozen matches and it isn’t a good sign with the World Cup just around the corner.

The team selection today was poor, we were light on batsmen and the 3 (Mills, Topley and Parkinson) can’t bat. England are known for having 10 and even 11 of their T20 team all being able to bat. The current team looks very weak.

Buttler was clean bowled by a superb ball by Kumar, nothing he could do about it.

Roy was a disaster, he couldn’t even hit the ball never mind score many runs.

Malan played some good shots and I know he is/was the number one ranked T20 batsman but he’s not an aggressive batsman. Root over the last few years has been excellent in all formats… there’s currently space in the T20 team for him.

Livingstone had disaster written all over him from the off. First he walks out wearing a helmet camera and then he got out trying to play a scoop shot that wasn’t on. He was very poor.

Ali was the only stand out, struck some excellent boundaries but was out foxed by Chahal.

Brook tried, again he played some good shots but he struggled with the class of the Indian bowlers.

Jordan contributed 26 not out but his shot timing is so poor… he only really connected with a couple and could and should have been out 2-3 times.

For as well as the Indians bowled it was rather embarrassing for England’s batsmen to be taken apart by the part time Hardik Pandya.

With Kohli (past it), Iyer, Pant, Jadeja and Bumrah being available for the next match then God help England.

 

[Pebble Dash]

And we're missing Stokes, Root and Bairstow. Not to mention Morgan retiring. (Although he was on a really poor run of form when he went)

They've given a few players a chance and they'll continue to do so until the next World Cup in November. Losing a game or a series here and there is going to happen. These are world class players we're up against, India have a huge depth of quality in the T20 format.

I know and they’re big players to miss. I’ve just commented in my other post that I would recall Root but he hasn’t been part of the T20 team for quite some time. He is however good enough to play T20.

Stokes, Bairstow and the unavailable Rashid are the 3 main players missing. Morgan had a fantastic career but his form fell badly leading up to his retirement.

I can’t remember if Salt is in the squad but he’s done well for England opening the batting. Whereas Willey is in the squad and played very well against Ireland. I know Ireland aren’t anywhere near the same league as India but Willey is very consistent in all formats. Wicket taking bowler, superb fielder and competent with the bat. Today India swung the ball to devastating effect… what does Willey excel at? Swinging the ball.

Parkinson sad to say looks way out of his depth. His bowling was all over the place and he can’t bat at all.

I still think England have a very good pool of players but it was the manner of the defeat today… they looked completely disinterested and were blown away by India.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

India were fantastic from a bowling perspective and decent for 90% of their innings with the bat. Their fielding left a lot to be desired… England would have been out for a lot less than what they got if India hadn’t dropped so many catches.

We need to remember England are ranked number 2 in the world. Yes they’re missing a few players but so were India. Englands T20 has tailored off over the last half a dozen matches and it isn’t a good sign with the World Cup just around the corner.

The team selection today was poor, we were light on batsmen and the 3 (Mills, Topley and Parkinson) can’t bat. England are known for having 10 and even 11 of their T20 team all being able to bat. The current team looks very weak.

Buttler was cleaned bowled by a superb ball by Kumar, nothing he could do about it.

Roy was a disaster, he couldn’t even hit the ball never mind score many runs.

Malan played some good shots and I know he is/was the number ranked T20 batsman but not an aggressive batsman. Root over the last few years has been excellent in all formats… there’s currently space in the T20 team for him.

Livingstone had disaster written all over him from the off. First he walks out wearing a helmet camera and they he got out trying to play a scoop shot that wasn’t on. He was very poor.

Ali was the only stand out, struck some excellent boundaries but was out foxed by Chahal.

Brook tried, again he played some good shots but he struggled with the class of the Indian bowlers.

Jordan contributed 26 not out but his shot timing is so poor… he only really connected with a couple and could and should have been out 2-3 times.

For as well as the Indians bowled it was rather embarrassing for England’s batsmen to take taken apart by the part time Hardik Pandya.

With Kohli (past it), Iyer, Pant, Jadeja and Bumrah being available for the next match then God help England.

That's a much better post and more in line with the general tone in here, so thanks for that.

Although if we're to remember we're ranked No2, take a look at who's ranked No1. We won't play our 'best' team every time, that's what these games are about and you have to allow for a bad game or a player having a bad run, I don't think it's any use slagging them off when they don't go well because that can happen to anyone. Oh and yeah, I think they mentioned that Salt is in the squad but for this game, they tried something else, even the commentators said the batting was light and on the night, so it proved. It just happens.

But basically, I believe that if we're to progress, we cannot go picking whatever our best team every time, newer players have to be thrown in and it's pointless getting too worked up over it when we lose. They'll search for the right formula, we have a lot of very good players and by the time the world cup comes along i'm sure we'll have a better idea of our best team.

 

[UncleBuck]

I see posting Spurs Match Thread stylee has finally made it's way into the Cricket thread

It’s not cricket sir, my poster rating is extremely above waist height from my perspective ?

 

[Pebble Dash]

Great start by India only for Gleeson to pick up his first wicket on debut followed by a double wicket maiden.

India 49-1 (4.4 overs)
India 61-3 (7 overs)

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Gleeson making his debut at 34 years old. Goes to show if you perform, you get a chance and he's taking it.

 

[Trix]

Good catch that. Hated those that take so long to come down.

 

[Trix]

now Jordan on a hatrick.

 

[Pebble Dash]

That should be the final nail in Roy’s coffin, terrible player these last few years.