The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 1st June 2012

[Buster18]

just got a message on facebook that KING has retired

Elvis? Thought he was dead?

 

[rawhide]

Elvis? Thought he was dead?

Uh-huh!

Than' you ver' much.

 

[yido_number1]

And then says that our season finish is the best that we can expect.
I'm not a Harry hater, but he gets more credit than he deserves from some IMO.

I'm not a blind Harry lover, and feel he let us down with the whole England debackle... I just feel we need to be careful baying for blood when there aren't that many great managers out there ... this has happened before when Ramos came in and could easily happen again.... Look at Chavski sacking Anceloti and then bringing in AVB... they got lucky with the Champs league or they would of dropped 3 league places.... and no European footy...

 

[Misfit]

Elvis? Thought he was dead?

Nah. Got a sweet gig as the Pats' mascot.

 

[Misfit]

I'm not a blind Harry lover, and feel he let us down with the whole England debackle... I just feel we need to be careful baying for blood when there aren't that many great managers out there ... this has happened before when Ramos came in and could easily happen again.... Look at Chavski sacking Anceloti and then bringing in AVB... they got luck with the Champs league or they would of dropped 3 league places.... and no European footy...

4 places. Ol' Carlo was given the heave-ho for finishing 2nd. Madness.

 

[Blake Griffin]

Sure. Go make a thread elsewhere.

easy tiger.

 

[spursirish]

any news on vertonghen

 

[mpickard2087]

any news on vertonghen

Yep, all signed up

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Yep, all signed up

Yes some guy who is Belgian said so...

 

[spursirish]

where it not on our site

 

[Hot-Spur]

Uh-huh!

Than' you ver' much.

Ok we seriously need a "shocking" rating

 

[midoNdefoe]

Disagree with this.

I think the level of squad we have is excellent and with some investment this summer and moving on of deadweight we have a squad capable of challenging for the PL title with the right manager in place.

What Harry has achieved with our squad is commendable, but no less than should be expected of him.

With our new training facility in place too then there comes a point when i think you have to say that there are probably a few managers out there who have the potential to get more from us over an entire season.

So what he has done is commendable, and no less than we expected, but you still want him out??

What your saying is unless we are hugely overachieving (even more so than we are) each season, we should sack the manager...

Dont forget, we are punching above our weight with the league finish this year. Yes it was disappointing not finishing 3rd, but the points total was good and we finished ahead of the 'best' team in europe. It seems crazy to contemplate firing a manager after a successful season....

Where do you realistically feel we would be finishing next year with any of the other managers mentioned, compared to where we look like we are heading with Harry?

With the signing of vertongen seemingly imminent, and the potential aquisition of Remy/Ade/De Jong or whoever, i would say we are looking good for another top4 finish, maybe better next year.
Chelsea will be stronger, on paper at least..liverpool with Brendan the 'messiah' Rodgers in charge and City's continued spending, not to mention united and the seemingly fading, but not out of the running, arse. The league will be tough next year, no doubt, and with Harry in charge i look forward to seeing if we can continue to improve, the way we have, and possibly kick on to 'the next level'.

 

[mpickard2087]

where it not on our site

Sorry man was a joke! Thought the smileys would be a giveaway

Literally no news about him for the last day or so.

 

[ryantegan]

Just to let you all know. Ive left work and got no update. Out of the loop today!

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Just to let you all know. Ive left work and got no update. Out of the loop today!

Are you working tomorrow?

 

[talkshowhost86]

Keano covering himself in glory there by rating Ryan's message as 'dumb'. What a guy.

 

[Keano]

 

[mpickard2087]

Why has Ryan's post been awarded a 'dumb'?

Edit: see TSH got in before me, but still, why?

 

[Keano]

Why is the 'dumb' option there if everyone bitches about it if its pressed? Its not as if i kicked your mum

 

[SpurSince57]

Bit of a difference comparing two games of a season to an entire half a season isn't it SS57.

Not sure why we're doing this here (suppose kinda on topic) but Arsenal's dip in form secured them 3rd, having sold off major player assets last summer. Chelsea was down to a bad manager set-up yet they've won the CL and FA Cup and qualified for CL. City won the goddamn league.

Spurs on the other hand went from having 3rd place and definite CL virtually sewn up and being favorites to win the FA cup to non CL qualification in a matter of weeks.

Our season was ok and was the minimum that Levy and us as supporters should have been expecting from Redknapp in terms of season achievements.

But to think that the England job had little or not impact on Harry and that future potential job offers would also not likely have an impact is incredibly naive thinking.

Harry is not a bad manager, far from it, but he's not the manager to take us forward from where we are IMO.

Nine games is half of 38 now?

Our season was just 'OK' was it? Two fourth places in three seasons seems pretty damned good to me, considering we've managed just three others in our entire existence in the top flight. Three top five places in succession? The last time we managed that was 59-60 to 63-64. 69 points equates to 1.8 PPG over 38 games; that, I believe, is our sixth best ever. Redknapp's 1.74 PPG over the best part of four seasons is the best performance by any Spurs manager, ever. Considering our whole history, the utter mediocrity we had to endure from 1991 to 2005, and the fact that our means are relatively modest compared to our rivals, to say that gaining fourth place was the 'minimum' expectation shows how puffed-up some of us have become. It's just as well Liverpool and Chelsea's league performances fell so far short, isn't it?

And no, I didn't say the England job had 'little or not [sic] impact'. I said to ascribe all blame to it was simplistic in the extreme, which is a different matter entirely.

Perhaps we need another dose of Ramos or someone like him to get some people to appreciate what we have. But then, you'd think they'd have learned their lesson after Jol.