The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 21st June 2012

[RJ1882]

Well put...

Levy IS making a mess of it, in my humble opinion, of course. Here''s what should have happened

1. I happen to think that if you run a multi million poud business, replacing your manager is not a spur of the moment decision, but something that builds up over months or even years. So Levy has to have known he was replacing Redknapp for some time.
2. If that is so, you immediately start to think about potential replacements and subsequently sounding out their agents. Tapping-up, surely, but everyone does it and this decision is too important to leave to chance
3. If you get a yes from your man, you boot out HR, get the new man to sign and have the photosession, and at such a stage that the new guy has plenty of time to make the necessary changes to the squad

But Levy first waits three weeks (what for?), then boots out his manager in the middle of Euro 2012 while one of the targets is actively involved in that tournament and then starts interviewing candidates left, right and centre. There is no decision on the return to a DoF type model - or not, and the names being bandied around, like Moyes, AVB, Martinez and Blanc, all represent wildly differing footballing styles and philosophies. Does Levy actually know where he wants to go from here?

Given DL's highly suspect track record in managerial appointments, I greatly fear he does not. If he's waiting for Blanc, then why get rid of Redknapp now? If AVB is the man, his contract details and compensation could and should have been sorted out long ago. No need for further delays.
And while all this drags on, there is no activity on the transfer front, while our squad needs major investment. So to wrap it up; I say that Levy is botching this whole procedure....

As opposed to what? Holding on to Harry for another 3 weeks while players, Fans and media speculte if Harry is staying or going, while Harry shoots his mouth off to the Media and live on BBC whiel covering Euro 2012? Sit for 3 weeks portraying that we have absolutely no idea what position we will be in for the start of the season? Jesus.

Levy is not a stupid man. He will have considered multiple candidates. Based on the fact that AVB has been spoken to, is interested and is not tied up in any sort of contract which involves negotiations and compensation, I would imagine that he not our number 1 target.
Blanc seems to be number 1. We may have spoken to him 2 months ago for all we know. He did make noises after all in March/April time about possibly signing for a new club before or even during the Euros. He is involved with France. We cant publicly say we have spoken to/ want to speak to/ or have agreed terms with him. This can only happen once France are eliminated.

Every day that passes make it less likely a currently available manager will get the job - at least until the currently employed Manager that we want has been spoken to and says no.

To get back to your point, we are in a much better position now while we continue our Manager haunt, than we would be siitting with Harry keeping the seat warm for another 3 weeks to then be sacked.

 

[BuffaloSid]

Ah, a "You can't polish a turd" kind of girl eh, Hotty?

you can roll it in glitter though ...

 

[lifeof...]

I think it is reasonable to think, that we (Spurs) would have at the very least drawn up a potential list of managers when the media's harry for England 1st started.

oh forgot to add part of the reason for the timing of the H sacking, might have been to see what Jose was going to do re Real, ...i know wishful thinking on my part

 

[Franchise60]

Re Verts, I reckon Levy sees no point in paying his wages until the start of pre season. that's potentially 6 weeks at 60k. so wait till jul1.

Don't think it would make a difference as transfers can't become officially finalized until July 1st I thought?

 

[codspur]

Where is Adie?

That depends who you ask Richiee.

If you ask his Mum he is probably in his room talking to all his chums on the internet...he is very popular is her Adie

If you ask Adie he is dressed as a Knight fighting Space Dragons away from the Planet Zarg before popping home to shag Cameron Diaz and Lucy Liu in a threeway only to be interupted by a call from Daniel levy to tel him what the latest happenings at THFC are, so he can tell all his chums on the internet

 

[WestBelfast Spurs]

"No one at the club knows what's going on."

Sounds promising.

sounds normal

 

[worcestersauce]

Adie was the ONE for me that called it right.
He may have got the actual timing wrong but his info was spot on.
I think its ludacris that he is no longer here.

He said H'd be gone by Monday and it wasn't until Wednesday so two days out; I'm still waiting for AVB 100% to be announced last Monday.
Adie does need to keep his composure when he posts and not get so excited.

 

[Bill_Oddie]

Adie was the ONE for me that called it right.
He may have got the actual timing wrong but his info was spot on.
I think its ludacris that he is no longer here.

In a final attempt to put this to bed:

adie did NOT call it right. Plenty of people suggested Redknapp was going. But nobody, least of all any of us on SC has ever denied that adie has a contact that receives information. We've spent more than one window defending the guy from torrents of abuse and ridicule. Abuse and ridicule that he openly understood that came his way from the approach he took to posting. He frequently said he wouldn't post anymore or at least post less dramatically. His style convinced several members of SC to place bets, which the quality of his source and information (remember: we know the source) simply was not strong enough to back up. He gets some info, but it was at a very early stage so huge amounts of it didn't come to pass.

The Redknapp stuff was the perfect example. Of course someone told him Redknapp was going. I doubt he made it up. But, despite knowing - and admitting - from past experience that his info was flawed and had been proved that it may not come to pass, adie decided to try to stir up the site into a state of panic (whether you yourself panicked is irrelevant. You only have to read his emotional post to see that was its aim). He also, despite as I say a long history of supporting him, put the Mods in a position where he asked to be banned. If anything was ludicrous, it was that.

For anyone thinking adie was banned for getting ITK wrong, or indeed for his ban being anything to do with ITK, ask yourself how many other posters have been banned for ITK posts...

 

[jbstarr14]

What if Moyes rocked up to the press conference on a Harley ...would you welcome him then???

Given that most Harleys are owned by solicitors / estate agents / doctors these days, I'm afraid that example falls down.
Had you said a uni-cycle however....

 

[Indisguise]

What if Moyes rocked up to the press conference on a Harley ...would you welcome him then???

Yeah, but he'd have a fucking side car and stablilisers on it!

 

[FreddieYid]

Just been listening to Moyes on Talksport, says there has been no contact from Spurs, guess he would say that anyway, but didn`t JJ all but dismiss the idea of Moyes ...?

I just can't see it being Moyse. No doubt he's a good manager but he just doesn't seem like a Tottenham manager.

If a club approaches another club about speaking to their manager, it's commen in England for the parent club of the manager to announce that 'they've given Tottenham permission to speak to their manager'.

Plus I can't see him working in a structure involving a DoF, if indeed we are going down this root.

 

[Clamour_Kid]

My hunch tells me that the fact it is taking longer than anticipated is a sign that Levy is trying to go for someone special. No. I am not saying necessarily Guardiola, but, someone in a Class A list.

If we were hiring a Class C or even B manager, it would have been announced already.

ILWT!

 

[hugrr]

Adie was the ONE for me that called it right.
He may have got the actual timing wrong but his info was spot on.
I think its ludacris that he is no longer here.

Considering some of the utter shit he came out with, and the fact he told a Welsh member on here to 'do a Gary Speed' I'm more than glad the scumbag is no longer here. Sorry if that's considered ITK bashing but Adie really is a ****

 

[lifeof...]

, ask yourself how many other posters have been banned for ITK posts...

Rather than asking that, can i ask how difficult is it to put worms back into a can?

 

[tiger666]

Buddy we were all told by reliabe ITK's yestday (JJ) that verts was coming over here today.

Did JJ say that?

 

[Franchise60]

I was on twitter looking at #thfc tweets and some guy was raving like a lunatic about Redknapp yesterday. I went and looked at his profile and color me shocked his name said adief at the top.

Blocked.

 

[Montasura]

Re Verts, I reckon Levy sees no point in paying his wages until the start of pre season. that's potentially 6 weeks at 60k. so wait till jul1.

Maybe my lack of sleep last night has me totally confused, but surely it wouldn't matter when he signs as he can't actually join us until the transfer window opens and only then can we start paying him any wages. Any signature before that date simply amounts to a pre contract as such.

 

[AZ1974]

He said H'd be gone by Monday and it wasn't until Wednesday so two days out; I'm still waiting for AVB 100% to be announced last Monday.
Adie does need to keep his composure when he posts and not get so excited.

A bit harsh still to ban him. Remember we need take all info supplied by ITK,s with a pinch of salt.

 

[Spurger King]

For anyone thinking adie was banned for getting ITK wrong, or indeed for his ban being anything to do with ITK, ask yourself how many other posters have been banned for ITK posts...

Brownhead?

 

[FreddieYid]

Moyes. Yes he's boring and sometimes negative BUT he will keep us where we are. I think the safe option is the best option.[/quote]


This goes against the whole reason we sacked Aarry. We don't want to bring in a manger who can keep us where we are, we want someone who can potentially take us on to the next level.