The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 24 August 2010

[N17 Kings]

:grin: Welcome to SC with your first post!! :hello:

Gracias

 

[mil1lion]

They've already sold players:

Adriano to Barca
Squillaci to Arsenal

Sevilla don't rely on CL football, something they've only had for the past 2 out of 3 years. The only reason to sell Fabiano will be that their forwards are looking a little old(33 and 29) and they could make a killing on him. Similarly, Baptista and Reyes have been sold for large fees and delivered little at their subsequent clubs.

They always sell players regardless of Champions League. But there's no doubt that missing out on the Champions League will affect a small (and they are still small) club like Sevilla. It will mean they will now have to sell 1 or 2 big name players rather than just the 2 they've already sold.

Squillaci cost Arsenal about 6.5m Euros. Adriano cost about 10m Euros. Fabiano would fetch at least those 2 combined. Not to mention he hasn't signed a new contract anyway, so they can't lose him for nothing next year.

They most certainly do rely on Champions League football to balance the books.

 

[GeorgeTink]

Going back to a exciting young striker from earlier itk i see lukaka has scored tonight he is young and supposedly exciting!!!

 

[mrcake]

thanks mate!

Ermmm...can some one give me a clue?Eek

 

[THOWIG]

Would love Lukaku

 

[BringBack_leGin]

He does look like a super little player, someone on here has been championing him before, can`t remember who though, might have been Dan Ashcroft....

When a Bundesliga player is being raved about, it's usually safe to assume that the fan is this man below....

To be fair, besides Matzdorf, it was the best post on this thread all day. Although nobody caught the sarcasm of my rant earlier

I had an inkling but didn't want to stop you in your tracks so played along, giving you opportunity to further it

The next few days are going to be mighty interesting, let's hope we just make the right start tomorrow night!

 

[jrio]

They always sell players regardless of Champions League. But there's no doubt that missing out on the Champions League will affect a small (and they are still small) club like Sevilla. It will mean they will now have to sell 1 or 2 big name players rather than just the 2 they've already sold.

Squillaci cost Arsenal about 6.5m Euros. Adriano cost about 10m Euros. Fabiano would fetch at least those 2 combined. Not to mention he hasn't signed a new contract anyway, so they can't lose him for nothing next year.

They most certainly do rely on Champions League football to balance the books.

CL won't make the difference between selling Fabiano or not. There is no other big name to sell, as Navas won't leave home.

No one's in for Fabiano at the price Sevilla are seeking. Fabiano won't go anywhere that sees little sunshine for long periods. If Rennes was too cold for him, England is going to be like entering a freezer. I wouldn't be surprised to see him arrive at Milan.

 

[DoublePivot]

Would love Lukaku

Please! Luakaku would love you and it would hurt.

 

[mike_l]

They always sell players regardless of Champions League. But there's no doubt that missing out on the Champions League will affect a small (and they are still small) club like Sevilla. It will mean they will now have to sell 1 or 2 big name players rather than just the 2 they've already sold.

Squillaci cost Arsenal about 6.5m Euros. Adriano cost about 10m Euros. Fabiano would fetch at least those 2 combined. Not to mention he hasn't signed a new contract anyway, so they can't lose him for nothing next year.

They most certainly do rely on Champions League football to balance the books.

I very much doubt Fabiano would fetch 16.5m, let alone at least that amount, given his current circumstances.

 

[MEHSTG]

Nice! Get the low down on Obika as well as he is there for the season

He missed a penalty tonight in the shoot out with Portsmouth in the League Cup, Portsmouth won 4-3 on pens, Obika came on as a sub.

 

[mil1lion]

CL won't make the difference between selling Fabiano or not. There is no other big name to sell, as Navas won't leave home.

No one's in for Fabiano at the price Sevilla are seeking. Fabiano won't go anywhere that sees little sunshine for long periods. If Rennes was too cold for him, England is going to be like entering a freezer. I wouldn't be surprised to see him arrive at Milan.

How will it not affect them? They rely on Champions League money to balance the books. They don't have that now, so will need to bring money from somewhere else. They have a player who would fetch a decent amount with only 1 year on his deal.

Funny that he should mention Spurs as the sort of club he'd like to join and how he'd fire us above Arsenal. Not the words of someone who doesn't want to come to England.

I very much doubt Fabiano would fetch 16.5m, let alone at least that amount, given his current circumstances.

£13.5m (16.5m euros) is probably about the mark I would've thought. Some reports have suggested 18m Euros, but i'm sure that's a bit high. Adiepf seems to think around £12m.

 

[41john]

Oh dear i wonder what this could mean :shrug: a new striker:hump:

Thanks! Brings my post back on topic.... Fabiano anyone.....?

 

[kcmei]

So any signs after the game that fabiano is going?

 

[kcmei]

So if we go out tmr then fabiano wont sign?

 

[1966yid]

Given Fab's age, I'm flabbergasted that DL has been coerced in to stumping up for him as, like you say, there will be cheaper more viable alternatives out there, keener and hungrier and potentially less of a risk that they won't bomb in the Premiership.

The fee is likely to be no more than £12m which for a player of his class is a good deal even at 29 and with 1 year left on his contract.

Who do you suggest we buy who is younger, cheaper and less of a risk? I think you may be struggling to find someone better?

In recent years we've bought numerous players for tomorrow, we now need to move onto some for today!

For those who have said we shouldn't sign Fabiano because he cannot play for us in the Champions League wake up and smell the coffee! As some have said we will not win the competition and our priority must be the Premiership in which Fabiano gives us an upgrade on the strikers we have. If Fabiano can help keep us in the top 4 then job done!

It amazes me that no matter who we are linked with the doom and gloom merchants are quick to act! We have a very good squad at Tottenham and it is getting hard to upgrade on the players we have especially with the financial constrictions, size of the stadium, etc.

We are going to see some major changes in the game over the next few years with the new financial regulations and we are in a good position to deal with this, many clubs including some of Europe's elite are going to struggle so let's see how we progress. I personally think we are on the verge of great times again at Tottenham, trust in Harry and Daniel Levy and enjoy the ride!

 

[tony0379]

The fee is likely to be no more than £12m which for a player of his class is a good deal even at 29 and with 1 year left on his contract.

Who do you suggest we buy who is younger, cheaper and less of a risk? I think you may be struggling to find someone better?

In recent years we've bought numerous players for tomorrow, we now need to move onto some for today!

For those who have said we shouldn't sign Fabiano because he cannot play for us in the Champions League wake up and smell the coffee! As some have said we will not win the competition and our priority must be the Premiership in which Fabiano gives us an upgrade on the strikers we have. If Fabiano can help keep us in the top 4 then job done!

It amazes me that no matter who we are linked with the doom and gloom merchants are quick to act! We have a very good squad at Tottenham and it is getting hard to upgrade on the players we have especially with the financial constrictions, size of the stadium, etc.

We are going to see some major changes in the game over the next few years with the new financial regulations and we are in a good position to deal with this, many clubs including some of Europe's elite are going to struggle so let's see how we progress. I personally think we are on the verge of great times again at Tottenham, trust in Harry and Daniel Levy and enjoy the ride!

THIS

Well said Chicco!

 

[Tickers]

Bayern in for Ozil.

 

[davidmatzdorf]

I never quite get the way people use the word "believe" in regard to ITK. I keep reading dissertations on whether people "believe" what adiepf is saying. It's unclear and doesn't really say anything.

I am confident, because of the way he expresses himself and his long membership here, that adiepf is not lying. He's reporting stuff that he's being told as accurately as multiple memories and the principle of Chinese Whispers permit.

But people keep blurring this with two completely different questions: (a) whether adiepf's source is telling him codswallop, fibbing to him, trying to show off or just spinning tales for reasons of his/her own and (b) whether Fabiano is actually going to end up signing for Tottenham.

The result is total confusion and non-communication. If Fabiano doesn't sign, it doesn't make adiepf's info wrong or make him a liar, it just means that either things changed at the last minute or adiepf's source was stringing him along or - more likely - exaggerating.

What I don't get if why so mny people seem to be incapable of distinguishing between these things - it's not difficult and it doesn't require a powerful intellect, just a bit of basic calm and observation - and why people get so tied up in rage about what's basically a bit of a third hand leak from the club.

 

[jonnyp]

The fee is likely to be no more than £12m which for a player of his class is a good deal even at 29 and with 1 year left on his contract.

Who do you suggest we buy who is younger, cheaper and less of a risk? I think you may be struggling to find someone better?

In recent years we've bought numerous players for tomorrow, we now need to move onto some for today!

For those who have said we shouldn't sign Fabiano because he cannot play for us in the Champions League wake up and smell the coffee! As some have said we will not win the competition and our priority must be the Premiership in which Fabiano gives us an upgrade on the strikers we have. If Fabiano can help keep us in the top 4 then job done!

It amazes me that no matter who we are linked with the doom and gloom merchants are quick to act! We have a very good squad at Tottenham and it is getting hard to upgrade on the players we have especially with the financial constrictions, size of the stadium, etc.

We are going to see some major changes in the game over the next few years with the new financial regulations and we are in a good position to deal with this, many clubs including some of Europe's elite are going to struggle so let's see how we progress. I personally think we are on the verge of great times again at Tottenham, trust in Harry and Daniel Levy and enjoy the ride!

I have my doubts that he's an upgrade on what we have.

 

[hughy]

I never quite get the way people use the word "believe" in regard to ITK. I keep reading dissertations on whether people "believe" what adiepf is saying. It's unclear and doesn't really say anything.

I am confident, because of the way he expresses himself and his long membership here, that adiepf is not lying. He's reporting stuff that he's being told as accurately as multiple memories and the principle of Chinese Whispers permit.

But people keep blurring this with two completely different questions: (a) whether adiepf's source is telling him codswallop, fibbing to him, trying to show off or just spinning tales for reasons of his/her own and (b) whether Fabiano is actually going to end up signing for Tottenham.

The result is total confusion and non-communication. If Fabiano doesn't sign, it doesn't make adiepf's info wrong or make him a liar, it just means that either things changed at the last minute or adiepf's source was stringing him along or - more likely - exaggerating.

What I don't get if why so mny people seem to be incapable of distinguishing between these things - it's not difficult and it doesn't require a powerful intellect, just a bit of basic calm and observation - and why people get so tied up in rage about what's basically a bit of a third hand leak from the club.

Didn't you make a very similar post to that like two days ago?! Good luck getting through to them...