The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 25th July 2017

[easley91]

Unless it indicates the start of a bidding war...

Or indicates the deal is closer to agreement than it was previously..

 

[mil1lion]

We wont sign 3 or 4 in this time. Most likely to be 1 or 2. I wouldn't mind being wrong on that. I think 2 high quality players will be enough though. Only really need a 3rd if Wimmer is sold.

I can see us signing a right wing back which basically kills 2 birds with 1 stone on that side. The other being attacking midfield (most likely Barkley).

 

[Ossie85]

RB: Pereira/Toljan
AM: Barkley
RW: Marcel

I don't think Wimmer will leave

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

We wont sign 3 or 4 in this time. Most likely to be 1 or 2. I wouldn't mind being wrong on that. I think 2 high quality players will be enough though. Only really need a 3rd if Wimmer is sold.

I can see us signing a right wing back which basically kills 2 birds with 1 stone on that side. The other being attacking midfield (most likely Barkley).

I think what you say is one of two scenarios:
We buy a quality RB/RWB who'll challenge Trippier from the off and Barkley

Or
A back up RB (at a fraction of the cost), Barkley and a competitive AM/WF

I can't see our finances stretching to three 20 plus million pound players but I could, of course, be talking total monkeykaka

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

I don't think Wimmer will leave

He should, for everybody's sake. He is wasting his career and taking up a slot in the squad for no purpose.

 

[GetSpurredOn]

Expect the RB now to be Toljan, based on relative fee compared to Pereira. However, this ITK leads me to suspect the excess will be reallocated to a pacey WF.
Toljan - just as capable at LB as RB, so doesn't fully block Walker-Peters, and allows Davies to cover LCB in a back 3 without weakening our depth at LB.
Barkley - Koeman clearly stated today that Barkley will definitely be sold this window.
Keita Balde - assuming that's the much talked about Italian based player, offers pace out wide but also a CF option.

Barkley is definitely leaving, plus Toljan and Keira's club seem open to selling, so these deals could get over the line fairly quickly I'd imagine.

I would agree that technically Pereira could be seen as WB and RW option in one, but alternatively having a RW/CF option gives us added options up top instead.

Wouldn't be a bad window that.

Outside of that, I'd expected a GK, and also a CB even without Wimmer potentially leaving, a young option. Foyth in the media sounds as though he's holding out for us, but Benkovic wouldn't be a bad shout, plays either side of CB.

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

Expect the RB now to be Toljan, based on relative fee compared to Pereira. However, this ITK leads me to suspect the excess will be reallocated to a pacey WF.
Toljan - just as capable at LB as RB, so doesn't fully block Walker-Peters, and allows Davies to cover LCB in a back 3 without weakening our depth at LB.
Barkley - Koeman clearly stated today that Barkley will definitely be sold this window.
Keita Balde - assuming that's the much talked about Italian based player, offers pace out wide but also a CF option.

Barkley is definitely leaving, plus Toljan and Keira's club seem open to selling, so these deals could get over the line fairly quickly I'd imagine.

I would agree that technically Pereira could be seen as WB and RW option in one, but alternatively having a RW/CF option gives us added options up top instead.

Wouldn't be a bad window that.

Outside of that, I'd expected a GK, and also a CB even without Wimmer potentially leaving, a young option. Foyth in the media sounds as though he's holding out for us, but Benkovic wouldn't be a bad shout, plays either side of CB.

Nice sensible read- I'd be happy with that

 

[SwedishSpurs]

Or indicates the deal is closer to agreement than it was previously..

Breezer rated this as a winner.

 

[adamsky]

He should, for everybody's sake. He is wasting his career and taking up a slot in the squad for no purpose.

Agree he's wasting his career but would be more than happy if he stayed. There aren't many better 4th choice centre backs around. However, for his own sake he should leave.

 

[Ossie85]

Expect the RB now to be Toljan, based on relative fee compared to Pereira. However, this ITK leads me to suspect the excess will be reallocated to a pacey WF.
Toljan - just as capable at LB as RB, so doesn't fully block Walker-Peters, and allows Davies to cover LCB in a back 3 without weakening our depth at LB.
Barkley - Koeman clearly stated today that Barkley will definitely be sold this window.
Keita Balde - assuming that's the much talked about Italian based player, offers pace out wide but also a CF option.

Barkley is definitely leaving, plus Toljan and Keira's club seem open to selling, so these deals could get over the line fairly quickly I'd imagine.

I would agree that technically Pereira could be seen as WB and RW option in one, but alternatively having a RW/CF option gives us added options up top instead.

Wouldn't be a bad window that.

Outside of that, I'd expected a GK, and also a CB even without Wimmer potentially leaving, a young option. Foyth in the media sounds as though he's holding out for us, but Benkovic wouldn't be a bad shout, plays either side of CB.

Why would the much talked about Italian be Keita Balde?
Lazio is not from northern Italy, and he's a troublemaker.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Unless it indicates the start of a bidding war...

Unlikely. Everyone has known Barkley wants to leave for months

 

[easley91]

Or indicates the deal is closer to agreement than it was previously..

Breezer you magnificent bastard..

 

[Vwbottom]

Breezer you magnificent bastard..

Do ITK's do finger slips on ratings as well?

 

[mil1lion]

I think what you say is one of two scenarios:
We buy a quality RB/RWB who'll challenge Trippier from the off and Barkley

Or
A back up RB (at a fraction of the cost), Barkley and a competitive AM/WF

I can't see our finances stretching to three 20 plus million pound players but I could, of course, be talking total monkeykaka

I think scenario one is most likely. However I refer only to senior players who will come into the first team. I still think we could sign a couple of players for the U23s as well. So possibly Foyth and Toljan for example who would go into the development squad at least for now.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

Agree he's wasting his career but would be more than happy if he stayed. There aren't many better 4th choice centre backs around. However, for his own sake he should leave.

So he'll be 25 this year and whilst I agree that in pure quality maybe it is hard to think about somebody vastly better and happy to be 4th/5th choice, but I can think of younger players who are at about the same level of quality.

Adding to that, Wimmer simply doesn't seem to be subject to a huge degree of investment from Pochettino, and in today's market he could fetch a handsome fee. It's a sell for me.

 

[Ben1]

You just have to look at the proportion of late transfers (after season begun) in last 6/7 years to realise 2, 3, even 4 isn't impossible. And in those cases we NEEDED the players. Positive itk.

 

[Ossie85]

Uli Hoeness from Bayern just said that they won't sign anyone until this transfer madness stops.
We are doing the same. I suspect the last days prices will drop considerably, and Levy knows that.

Real Madrid are the reason this windows prices have been ridiculous with their pursue of Vinicius. 40m for a 16yr old. Now the 180m for Mbappe. They can't accept a NO. FIFA/UEFA should do something about it

 

[SpursTillIDie1882]

It seems like from Ali ITK were waiting till the madness of the so called big clubs ends and once they have there silly money players in we will start making more moves, which i can agree on in a way as it really is the most silliest transfer money window ever. its positve t hear we will be looking at some additions, barkley now seems a little bit more of a step closer with koemans comments.

 

[Japhet]

It seems like from Ali ITK were waiting till the madness of the so called big clubs ends and once they have there silly money players in we will start making more moves, which i can agree on in a way as it really is the most silliest transfer money window ever. its positve t hear we will be looking at some additions, barkley now seems a little bit more of a step closer with koemans comments.

I still wouldn't put it past Chelsea and City to try to interfere with our transfer dealings. Hopefully players will see through this knowing that they will most likely sink without trace like so many before them.

 

[GetSpurredOn]

Why would the much talked about Italian be Keita Balde?
Lazio is not from northern Italy, and he's a troublemaker.

Forgot the 'northern' bit.