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kdspur

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Weren't the double team bought from money the club had rather than a mass investment...also weren't the players bought to fulfil a role within a certain model, a recreation of the Arther Rowes 50-51 push and run system that Bill had been part of as opposed to the scattergun buy everyone approach that City had

best player we ever had in jimmy greaves cost a record transfer fee at time. you you want to be the best you have push boundaries and right now more than ever money is the root of all evil. it will buy u titles. trick will be to maintain and if rich people decide to bail then be in a position where the fall wont be too bad imo. thats what city are doing isnt it with the academy and millions been spent on kids and everything else.
 

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When two quarrel, the third party would be ... While the English Premier League clubs Liverpool and Swansea to Hoffenheim's Gylfi Sigurdsson (22) were courting, according to its IMAGE Information slammed league rivals Tottenham. The last loan at Swansea midfielder will go for ten million euros to the Spurs, where the former Bundesliga star Rafael van der Vaart is under contract. Tottenham in England was fourth. Then, the "shooting" countries, such as IMAGE christened the Icelanders for great goals, continue to shoot high. 2010/11 he was the best nine goals with Hoffenheim. In Swansea, he shone with seven goals and five templates in 18 games in March for the best players in the Premier League elected. Everything looked like a move to Swansea. With Hoffenheim which had agreed to almost nine million transfer fee. Sigurdsson not only played with. As his former coach Brendan Rogers moved from Swansea to Liverpool, suddenly, the "Reds" hot candidate. Came to Tottenham ...
 

kdspur

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Agree to a degree but for every big purchase there are probably three or four homegrown stars or cheap well scouted talents that had an equally big impact on their success

agree. but they still know whats needed but u name united first 11 now and point to me the homegrown or cheap stars!!! there is not many at all.. sur chris smalling cost 12 million didnt he. same with jones.... money talks..
 

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best player we ever had in jimmy greaves cost a record transfer fee at time. you you want to be the best you have push boundaries and right now more than ever money is the root of all evil. it will buy u titles. trick will be to maintain and if rich people decide to bail then be in a position where the fall wont be too bad imo. thats what city are doing isnt it with the academy and millions been spent on kids and everything else.

Greaves wasn't part of the double team and it was a post regarding them being a bought team that I was responding to

Re city's academy isn't the same argument valid for our new training centre a project initiated before Citys
 

SpurSince57

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Weren't the double team bought from money the club had rather than a mass investment...also weren't the players bought to fulfil a role within a certain model, a recreation of the Arther Rowes 50-51 push and run system that Bill had been part of as opposed to the scattergun buy everyone approach that City had

We were one of the wealthiest clubs in the old Division 1, the last, I'm pretty sure, to have advertising round the side of the pitch. Yes, the money was self-generated, but we bought virtually the entire team; the only truly home-grown player was Ron Henry. Peter Baker came from Enfield for peanuts, but the rest were signed at what were then dizzying prices; it doesn't really matter that the buying was targeted (and we didn't really recreate Rowe's style—Bill was far less purist and we were known to go Route One on occasion).
 

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Great news on Sig, think the "investment" will be much more. A financial partnership to challenge the top sides in Europe based on a much broader global business model. Levy didn't get a Cambridge first for nothing.
 

VincenzoCoccotti

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Sounds promising but not getting too excited, Bild has the sort of reputation there that the Daily Star has here so until JJ or the BBC report or it's on the official site not getting hopes up
 

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Typical redtop scribbles: just gossip, no quotes, most probably based on rumours on a fan message board not a million from here. And finally this: "The Hoffenheim Archer, as we call the Icelander at BILD for his great goals, continues to aim high" (loose translation but the 'we at BILD' bit is definitely there)
 

Gedson100

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As I've had to post several times already this window, how do you think we assembled the Double Team?

From Wikipedia:

'It's a little known fact that the parents of the 1961 Double winning side were all born within 3 miles of White Hart Lane. As they grew up and their lives evolved, they moved away and settled around the country. Throughout this time, Tottenham, who had a widely envied extensive scouting network, kept in touch via the medium of postcards and asked to be informed should they bear any male children. During the Second World War, Tottenham opened an evacuee football training camp in the tranquil safety of the Norfolk Broads and by some chance, Mr. and Mrs Blanchflower, Brown, Henry, Allen, Mackay, Dyson, Baker, Norman, White, Jones, Smith and Jetset, all still in close contact with the club, decided to send their children away there for safety.

The team gelled instantly and won the 1943 Norfolk/Suffolk U10s Challenge Cup under the guise of Lilywhites XI; their team size a clear advantage in this 6 a side tournament. A 16-0 win in the final against King's Lynn's Nippers promised much for the future.

As war ended, Tottenham made their purchase of the children permanent and signed them onto long term deals. Minimum wage of 2 shillings per week were paid directly to the parents' local public houses and future visits were banned. Earmarked for future glory from this point onwards the team evolved from under 11s to under 18s in record time: 7 years. Based now in changing rooms under the North Stand and overseen by the familiar headmasterly guidance of a certain William Nicholson, the children absorbed the skills and styles of the Tottenham teams throughout the 1950s by watching each match from behind cupped hands. This revolutionary technique was rarely copied & lead to the focussed and driven nature of this group. No one could have foretold what Nicholson had planned for the 1960-61 season.

Launched onto the world in August 1960, this rag-tag team of man-children, bonded together since early childhood took the league by storm. Previously unseen tactics of 'attack, always at all times' (AAAAT) caused carnage. Unbelievable results followed: 1-0 against Liverpool, both home and away, 13-8 at half time at home to Man. City only to hang on for a 13-12 win. By mid-November, Arsenal's side were too scared to play and cried off claiming a cholera outbreak. By Christmas, the league was theirs and special dispensation allowed them to add the Cup in late January, ironically, considering the team's early days, it was Norwich they faced, running out convincing 2-1 winners after 6 replays on consecutive days.

Exhausted but triumphant, the team retired en masse and retreated to the jungles of Sumatra, where they saw out their days teaching football to local tribes and cutting down swathes of rainforest to plant football pitches.

That said. No-one played football like the double winning Tottenham team of 1960-61.'
 

kdspur

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Greaves wasn't part of the double team

Re city's academy isn't the same argument valid for our new training centre a project initiated before Citys

i know he wasnt, the point i was making was it cost money , a record to get that player. now i know we cant spend 30 mill on a player but if we wnat to be in top 4, year in year out, then we are going to have to pay fee's for top players and not expect or take chances on kids and expect it that way. it will never happen. getting a nice balance is right like u said few top top players that cost money and sprinkling of home grown and lesser fee players.
 
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