The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 26th June 2012

[panoma]

Having seen all the itk coming in as regards AVB i cannot believe how readily everyone is to accept the appointment of a manager who was an unmitagated disaster at one of our rival clubs.

For Daniel Levy to tell Harry he wants the club to go in a different direction, if we appoint AVB the only direction i can see us going is backward to mid-table obscurity again.

I keep seeing AVB's previous stay in chelsea called a disaster. But truth is he was 4th in the league and through in both cups despite beeing undermined by the old dogs.

He was there to refresh the chelsea side, but his results while trying for this was just decent, not spectacular, and got fired.

far away from a disaster imo.

 

[Jay The Yid]

care to expand on it? I have my own reservations about him but I think he has a better chance of being a giant success than giant failure. What I think will most likely come of his appointment is for a couple years or so we'll be mediocre. But if Levy truly lets him carry out his "project" by maybe 2014 we could start getting back to CL places.

And open your eyes, we don't have CL. No matter who we appoint will be facing an uphil battle for 4th.

So you are agreeing with me that you think we will go backwards in the next few years with AVB. So what was he point of sacking Harry to get a manager who will likely do worse?

Your point about projects is bollocks to be honest. Football is all about the here and now. Especially at a club like Spurs. How many times have you heard about 5 year projects when in reality it's just a wasted 5 years. Absolute bull shit. Next season if we finish in the same position or above it will be seen as a success of we finish below then it's a failure as far as I'm concerned. It's all about the present.

As for AVB the guy was a disaster at Chelsea and his tactics were hopeless. He comes across as quite a stubborn man and for me he has done fuck all to back this up.

He looked like a man broken last season and the pressure at spurs especialy with the press wanting him to fail will be intense.

He talked a lot of bollock in his interviews and he sounds like a darlick. No thanks.

 

[beats1]

Hulk and Falcao

I would have sturridge over Hulk, much, much cheaper and just about the same player

 

[SSC]

Back on topic, a couple of questions:

Remember a while back when the Vertonghen thing was developing and Levy was out there, we were told by certain ITKs that he would be coming back with 2 presents instead of 1. The way the Gylfi thing developed I cant imagine it was him, but have we got any other info on it or did that trail go cold?

Also regarding a keeper, I had a thought today that we should look at Lindeguard from Man U. De Gea is obviously the number 1 there long term and AL is a fantastic keeper, ive never seen him go wrong. Fergie would loath to sell him but as a guaranteed back up we could wiggle him out... Just nervous of having a 41 y/o keeper in nets next year, no matter how great Brad is..

 

[gibbospurs]

nice to hear we have wrapped up a couple of new strikers early in the window!! oh, wait a minute. silly me it was arsenal.... we are tottenham. We will drag the manager thing on and on like we do with everything. Where the fuck is Verts? Where is our new strikers?? Giroud would of been a great shout. Defoe! that is all we have. Ade might come?? We will drag that one out no doubt till the last day. Getting it all done early again are we? Manager not in place blah blah blah.

 

[Qualsonic]

I would have sturridge over Hulk, much, much cheaper and just about the same player

Not sure about Sturridge, but from what I've seen of Hulk he seems massively over-priced and over-hyped. A £30m player? Really? You're paying for the name!

 

[VincenzoCoccotti]

So you are agreeing with me that you think we will go backwards in the next few years with AVB. So what was he point of sacking Harry to get a manager who will likely do worse?

Your point about projects is bollocks to be honest. Football is all about the here and now. Especially at a club like Spurs. How many times have you heard about 5 year projects when in reality it's just a wasted 5 years. Absolute bull shit. Next season if we finish in the same position or above it will be seen as a success of we finish below then it's a failure as far as I'm concerned. It's all about the present.

As for AVB the guy was a disaster at Chelsea and his tactics were hopeless. He comes across as quite a stubborn man and for me he has done fuck all to back this up.

He looked like a man broken last season and the pressure at spurs especialy with the press wanting him to fail will be intense.

He talked a lot of bollock in his interviews and he sounds like a darlick. No thanks.

When he was sacked he had taken Chelsea to 4th in the premiership in a rebuilding season and the quarters of the CL and FA cup, if that is a flop then please give me some of whatever you are smoking

 

[SpurSince57]

Is it a full moon tonight? some weird shit being posted about AVB from jay and jimmy

Some people have to take off their trousers before they can zip their flies.

 

[beats1]

Not sure about Sturridge, but from what I've seen of Hulk he seems massively over-priced and over-hyped. A £30m player? Really? You're paying for the name!

Exactly and some **** has just disagreed with my post but not said why!

 

[L-man]

We don't need Hulk, was it Dan Ashcroft who said that GDS is superior or something?

 

[beats1]

Falcao is for sale, as athletic madrid have to sell in order to pay the third party so it seems he could leave for around £30mill this summer, it just depends on how desperate Madrid get

I think he may end up at chelsea

 

[Jay The Yid]

When he was sacked he had taken Chelsea to 4th in the premiership in a rebuilding season and the quarters of the CL and FA cup, if that is a flop then please give me some of whatever you are smoking

Oh come on!!!

He was a disaster at Chelsea. You can't look at any positives from his time there.

They were well out of the title race, iirc 10+ points behind us even! The were on their way out of Europe after being beaten by Napoli 3-1.

Then Di Mateo with the same team won the fuckig thing and the Cup for good measure stuffing us 5-1 on the way. If AVB was in charge none of that would of happened. Surely you agree!

Ask any Chelsea fan and they will agree with me that he was
Fucking hopeless.

 

[soup]

As has been mentioned, it was a scratch and sniff type thing. If I actually could reach down towards my 'nethers' with my own face, I'd never post on here again. And yes, I'd probably swallow.

Re agragoats's info, why would we loan Livermore out after he has played as many games as he has for us. I don't doubt they'd enquire, but I can't see him going unless it's a transfer.

I like it. Almost like a sexy DIY human centipede.

 

[beats1]

We don't need Hulk, was it Dan Ashcroft who said that GDS is superior or something?

I watched brazil vs Mexico and just on that one game I would say Gio looked better and he was playing with a shitter team

 

[Spurrific]

I don't do drugs, sorry.

Nothing to be sorry about, more for me! Nah, I don't either

 

[Akqayid]

Posted in RO

I think there are some big targets on the horizon

 

[Qualsonic]

It would be nice if AVB could attract Falcao to Spurs - judging from recent ITK it would seem DL would be willing to finance such a big move - but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[PrettyColors]

So you are agreeing with me that you think we will go backwards in the next few years with AVB. So what was he point of sacking Harry to get a manager who will likely do worse?

Your point about projects is bollocks to be honest. Football is all about the here and now. Especially at a club like Spurs. How many times have you heard about 5 year projects when in reality it's just a wasted 5 years. Absolute bull shit. Next season if we finish in the same position or above it will be seen as a success of we finish below then it's a failure as far as I'm concerned. It's all about the present.

As for AVB the guy was a disaster at Chelsea and his tactics were hopeless. He comes across as quite a stubborn man and for me he has done fuck all to back this up.

He looked like a man broken last season and the pressure at spurs especialy with the press wanting him to fail will be intense.

He talked a lot of bollock in his interviews and he sounds like a darlick. No thanks.

No no no no no no. I genuinely facepalmed myself twice while reading this. Oh and thanks for calling my post bollocks and bull shit. I'm sure you'll make lots of friends that way.

Jesus Christ. I deal with enough people like you in real life, those who either a) have the reading comprehension of a 9-year-old, b) those who just uninformed and thus don't understand it, or c) those who read a post and pick out parts out of context to try to fit your agenda. I think you're doing C.

To your first point- I think we'll go backwards with ANYONE. And that's the point you and others are missing. We didn't get CL. We don't have enough money. Modric is most likely gone. If we keep Harry it's still an uphill battle. We didn't sack harry because of football reasons either.

I'm not even going to reply to the rest of your post because I know it won't make any difference. I don't have the willpower or energy. Have a nice day.

 

[VincenzoCoccotti]

Oh come on!!!

He was a disaster at Chelsea. You can't look at any positives from his time there.

They were well out of the title race, iirc 10+ points behind us even! The were on their way out of Europe after being beaten by Napoli 3-1.

Then Di Mateo with the same team won the fuckig thing and the Cup for good measure stuffing us 5-1 on the way. If AVB was in charge none of that would of happened. Surely you agree!

Ask any Chelsea fan and they will agree with me that he was
Fucking hopeless.

There was strong ITK that levy had sounded out Mourinho about who should replace Harry and that he recommended AVB, an endorsement from the greatest manager of the modern era if not of all time is good enough for me.

At Chelsea he had half the squad against him because he dared to drop the likes of Drogba and Lampard, he had a chairman who has fired more managers than Jesus Gil, he had a chairman that is heavily influenced by the old guard

The results were reasonable from AVB, not spectacular but a damn slight better than Fergie managed in his first season at Utd or Wenger managed in his first season at arsenal but both were given time

AVB will be a great manager for us, supportive chairman, players that aren't ****s, he will do fine

 

[Qualsonic]

Posted in RO

I think there are some big targets on the horizon

It's Hulk Night!