The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 27th January 2016

[millsey]

So did we bid 25 mill for Berahino or not a few months back?

 

[bceej]

Werder seems to like our youngsters, we have sort of bec a feeder club for them. First Azzaoui and now Vejlkovic

Edit: scrap that, Azzaoui plays for Wolfsburg

Both wear green innit.

 

[Lilbaz]

So did we bid 25 mill for Berahino or not a few months back?

Not as a lump sum but over 5 years.

 

[Sweech]

We've got no deadwood left (other than Yedlin), so the Townsend and Fazio money may have to fund anything we do in the summer too.

We'll also be funding some contract bumps as well.

With good performance come raises, plus several players who are only going to have 2 years left on their deals like Eriksen, Chadli, Lamela, and Vertonghen.

 

[Dean]

What was the Kane's baggage ITK from a couple of days back about please? Been busy and not been able to keep up to date...hopefully it wasn't just about a shopping blowout on Avinguda Diagonal.....

 

[Spurs' Pipe Dreams]

Moussa Dembele £5m medical confirmed on the beeb, but loaned back to Fulham till the summer

 

[Parkie]

Well, if we do the deal on MD2 and loan him back, it wouldn't be the end of the world (as long as Chadli, Son, Lamela, etc can cover if Kane is injured and Poch is happy with that). I'd be happy if he did the same as Alli in similar circumstances.
Still rather see a striker come in as cover though!

 

[vigospur]

Behold the madness that is our transfer policy.... You'd think that at some stage some lessons of horrors past would have been learned...

Horrors of the past. Chiriches, Paulinho, Soldado. I would say we learnt plenty.

 

[The Swellhead Spur]

We'll also be funding some contract bumps as well.

With good performance come raises, plus several players who are only going to have 2 years left on their deals like Eriksen, Chadli, Lamela, and Vertonghen.

I saw somewhere (not sure if true obviously) that Dembele went from 40k a week to 70k in his new deal. No wonder he was smiling.

 

[eViL]

Mind you, take £80 odd million of Bale money out of that equation and it's a different story.

We have been pretty much net zero spenders since I know though....

Not really, we spent that money the same Summer.

 

[BehindEnemyLines]

Mind you, take £80 odd million of Bale money out of that equation and it's a different story.

We have been pretty much net zero spenders since I know though....

Well, we wouldn't then have spent that £80m either though........and besides, it'd still leave us towards the bottom of that list!

 

[Yid-ol]

Mind you, take £80 odd million of Bale money out of that equation and it's a different story.

We have been pretty much net zero spenders since I know though....

Why would you take the Bale money out? He was sold, we used the money to get new players.

That's like saying if you take out all the teams below us in the league, we finish last each year.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

Why would you take the Bale money out? He was sold, we used the money to get new players.

That's like saying if you take out all the teams below us in the league, we finish last each year.

Why wouldn't you take away all the teams above us, so we could finish first?

 

[Stoof]

Moussa Dembele £5m medical confirmed on the beeb, but loaned back to Fulham till the summer

Probably would have put a media story in the Dembele thread ...

 

[Yid-ol]

Why wouldn't you take away all the teams above us, so we could finish first?

Because I was making a point about taking away the Bale money. That would make us look worse so comparing it to removing teams above us doesn't work.

 

[JonnyBGood]

Here is my assessment of the current situation regarding the need for a Harry Kane back-up... Simply put Harry Kane is irreplaceable. Like many of our rivals, there are players in our team that we have back-ups for, but aren’t a like for like replacement from a skill set point of view.

Our North London chums without Giroud will use Walcott, Sanchez or maybe Campbell. But none of these have the same skills as Giroud and you could also argue he is less important in his contribution. Like us they have an abundance of Attacking Midfielders that can do a job up front. Their title challenge would be dented by a loss of Ozil or Cech. Welbeck is injured and is he going to win you the title?

Man City without Aguero is pretty buggered and we all know that Kompany is irreplaceable. Granted they have Bony, but this surely proves the point that £30m and £100k per week, is not going to buy you a decent back-up.

Leicester City without Vardy or Mahrez are a much less potent threat, granted they are in for Remy, but £11m for a back-up striker who can’t deliver with the embarrassment of supply from a Chelsea team (ok might be considered a little generous to the Chelsea attacking midfielders), is unlikely to make a world of difference and Ulloa has again not proven he can carry the load.

Then you have United... Striker?? Martial plays wide and Rooney is no focal point attacker any more.

We could do a Liverpool and hoover every second string attacker out there, none that actually fit your system.

So what I am saying… We, like our rivals are in the lap of the Footballing Gods and I understand our frustration, those Gods have dropped us a fair few times over the years. But if there is a Harry Kane replacement out there that can fit automatically into our system from day one, is fit enough, young enough, understands their role as understudy, won’t upset the dressing room harmony, is affordable and AVAILABLE, let me know because I don’t know of one. Maybe with Son, Chadli and Alli we can just muddle through if we need to…

So… We won’t win the league without Kane, Arsenal without Cech, Man City without Kompany and Leicester without Vardy… So the pessimists from each club can say we are all doomed, the realists can keep their fingers crossed and the optimists keep on dreaming…

 

[Flashspur]

Weird that, as it's only now that 99% of the punditry media are saying that we are the youngest, most dynamic, best defending, most dangerous attacking, most desired manager, most England represented and best team to watch in the PL. and it's costing us nuffin!

Levy three card trick innit!

 

[etchedchaos]

Am I the only one who is annoyed at all the net spend tables having negative net spend in black and positive net spend as red? No wonder people think net spending is the only way to compete, it's the damn tables confusing things.

 

[Deleted member 27695]

Here is my assessment of the current situation regarding the need for a Harry Kane back-up... Simply put Harry Kane is irreplaceable. Like many of our rivals, there are players in our team that we have back-ups for, but aren’t a like for like replacement from a skill set point of view.

Our North London chums without Giroud will use Walcott, Sanchez or maybe Campbell. But none of these have the same skills as Giroud and you could also argue he is less important in his contribution. Like us they have an abundance of Attacking Midfielders that can do a job up front. Their title challenge would be dented by a loss of Ozil or Cech. Welbeck is injured and is he going to win you the title?

Man City without Aguero is pretty buggered and we all know that Kompany is irreplaceable. Granted they have Bony, but this surely proves the point that £30m and £100k per week, is not going to buy you a decent back-up.

Leicester City without Vardy or Mahrez are a much less potent threat, granted they are in for Remy, but £11m for a back-up striker who can’t deliver with the embarrassment of supply from a Chelsea team (ok might be considered a little generous to the Chelsea attacking midfielders), is unlikely to make a world of difference and Ulloa has again not proven he can carry the load.

Then you have United... Striker?? Martial plays wide and Rooney is no focal point attacker any more.

We could do a Liverpool and hoover every second string attacker out there, none that actually fit your system.

So what I am saying… We, like our rivals are in the lap of the Footballing Gods and I understand our frustration, those Gods have dropped us a fair few times over the years. But if there is a Harry Kane replacement out there that can fit automatically into our system from day one, is fit enough, young enough, understands their role as understudy, won’t upset the dressing room harmony, is affordable and AVAILABLE, let me know because I don’t know of one. Maybe with Son, Chadli and Alli we can just muddle through if we need to…

So… We won’t win the league without Kane, Arsenal without Cech, Man City without Kompany and Leicester without Vardy… So the pessimists from each club can say we are all doomed, the realists can keep their fingers crossed and the optimists keep on dreaming…

I've been saying exactly this for months. Spot on assessment. Bravo

 

[npearl4spurs]

Here is my assessment of the current situation regarding the need for a Harry Kane back-up... Simply put Harry Kane is irreplaceable. Like many of our rivals, there are players in our team that we have back-ups for, but aren’t a like for like replacement from a skill set point of view.

Our North London chums without Giroud will use Walcott, Sanchez or maybe Campbell. But none of these have the same skills as Giroud and you could also argue he is less important in his contribution. Like us they have an abundance of Attacking Midfielders that can do a job up front. Their title challenge would be dented by a loss of Ozil or Cech. Welbeck is injured and is he going to win you the title?

Man City without Aguero is pretty buggered and we all know that Kompany is irreplaceable. Granted they have Bony, but this surely proves the point that £30m and £100k per week, is not going to buy you a decent back-up.

Leicester City without Vardy or Mahrez are a much less potent threat, granted they are in for Remy, but £11m for a back-up striker who can’t deliver with the embarrassment of supply from a Chelsea team (ok might be considered a little generous to the Chelsea attacking midfielders), is unlikely to make a world of difference and Ulloa has again not proven he can carry the load.

Then you have United... Striker?? Martial plays wide and Rooney is no focal point attacker any more.

We could do a Liverpool and hoover every second string attacker out there, none that actually fit your system.

So what I am saying… We, like our rivals are in the lap of the Footballing Gods and I understand our frustration, those Gods have dropped us a fair few times over the years. But if there is a Harry Kane replacement out there that can fit automatically into our system from day one, is fit enough, young enough, understands their role as understudy, won’t upset the dressing room harmony, is affordable and AVAILABLE, let me know because I don’t know of one. Maybe with Son, Chadli and Alli we can just muddle through if we need to…

So… We won’t win the league without Kane, Arsenal without Cech, Man City without Kompany and Leicester without Vardy… So the pessimists from each club can say we are all doomed, the realists can keep their fingers crossed and the optimists keep on dreaming…

Brilliant first post.

Ban him, A&C. He's far too sensible.