Likely Tosin with Fulham very interested in Reguilon.As long as that second one isn’t Maguire.
Likely Tosin with Fulham very interested in Reguilon.As long as that second one isn’t Maguire.
But Tosin doesn’t want us according to recent intel as per discussion on this site? Has this changed?Likely Tosin with Fulham very interested in Reguilon.
We kicked the cans down the road with all the loans under Conte and look how that's affecting us now with a bloated squad. Ange got signed up to a squad building 4 year contract so it makes sense to take a holistic approachThere's no panic. It's about future proofing ourselves now or kicking the can down the road, and looking at it in future windows. Problem with option 2 is that it will limit who we can get in at that point, and it could well limit us to only being able to bring in HG options. Right now we have two players that Ange believes will strengthen his options that are both HG and that are both obtainable whilst hopefully also moving players on that are not wanted.
Filthy sod.It's not really panic with a few days left, if anything it's actually forward planning. It's quite refreshing to hear the new approach to transfers and also great that FP & DL etc are addressing a potential future issue now. It's also changing all the time depending on who stays/leaves. FP has also put in an incredible amount of work behind the scenes with the youth and the club are confident it will reap the rewards so that we don't need to pay £50m (ish) for a HG player. FWIW, BJ now looking very very likely.
You can be happy that Ange has the final say and not agree with his every decision at the same timeIt’s amazing how many people on here are so happy that Ange is appearing to have the final say on the players that HE wants
That is unless they are players THEY don’t want.
As much as I'm against Maguire, 1. The information is we've been offered him, not that we're signing him. 2. He's better than Dier and as good as, if not better, than Sanchez (even in this system) and HG.Maguire doesn't solve our homegrown issue. Our homegrown issue isn't down to not having enough quantity. It's about not having enough quality. This will be more important when we get back in Europe and need a quality squad in depth. To fix our homegrown we need to be signing quality young prospects. Johnson is at least a young player with potential. He makes a lot more sense for the homegrown quota.
Tosin makes a lot more sense though as he at least fits the manager. At the end of the day we got Ange on a 4 year contract. We need to show the faith and only sign players who fits his system. There is no benefit to signing Maguire. We might as well keep one of the homegrown mentioned than sign him. Even Tanganga fits the high line better.As much as I'm against Maguire, 1. The information is we've been offered him, not that we're signing him. 2. He's better than Dier and as good as, if not better, than Sanchez (even in this system) and HG.
We'd be swapping two surplus players that are non-HG for an HG meaning that we'd have more room to sign quality no matter their HG status next season.
Current HG players over 21 in the squad are:
Forster
Whiteman
Austin
Tanganga (Likely to leave)
Davies
Spence (Likely to leave)
Skipp
Sess
Maddison
With Tanganga and Spence most likely leaving we'd have 7 HG. I'd assume one of Austin or Whiteman will be going too which leaves us at 6. If Johnson comes in we're back at 7 and with Maguire or Tosin we'd have 8. Then I wouldn't be surprised to see Sess and/or Davies leaving next season. HG is definitely a factor for us and if I understood @Trix 's ITK correctly, we'd rightly like to make sure this doesn't become a larger issue than it already is in the short-term while banking on our Academy to produce in the long term.
Once again, I'm not advocating for Maguire but I can absolutely see why getting two decent or genuinely good HG players in would be high up on the priority list.
I don't see why Ange would be interested, but IIRC he's stated that a player he doesn't approve of won't be coming in and no one is better at judging who's a better fit for his teams than he is. He's already made players who looked woeful under previous managers look a lot better for us so I'll happily put my personal feelings aside for this one (still praying it's Tosin and not Maguire though). I'm not convinced by Johnson either but like it or not we're currently not in a position where we can sign anyone we'd like without having to compromise somewhere else if we'd like a squad of 25 (which is a discussion in itself but for another thread).Tosin makes a lot more sense though as he at least fits the manager. At the end of the day we got Ange on a 4 year contract. We need to show the faith and only sign players who fits his system. There is no benefit to signing Maguire. We might as well keep one of the homegrown mentioned than sign him. Even Tanganga fits the high line better.
Eggs in one basket? And what do we know from the outside?Isn't this Negotiation 101?
If a club (Fulham) thinks we have put all our eggs in one basket (Tosin) then they know they can drive the price up by a few more millions. Maybe many more millions?
If it is publicly known that we are also considering another egg (Maguire) then at least this gives us leverage in the mind games department.
Hopefully, we don't get too clever with things and tie ourselves in knots.
Maguire doesn't solve our homegrown issue. Our homegrown issue isn't down to not having enough quantity. It's about not having enough quality. This will be more important when we get back in Europe and need a quality squad in depth. To fix our homegrown we need to be signing quality young prospects. Johnson is at least a young player with potential. He makes a lot more sense for the homegrown quota.
Harvey White and Brooklyn Lyons-Foster also both over 21.As much as I'm against Maguire, 1. The information is we've been offered him, not that we're signing him. 2. He's better than Dier and as good as, if not better, than Sanchez (even in this system) and HG.
We'd be swapping two surplus players that are non-HG for an HG meaning that we'd have more room to sign quality no matter their HG status next season.
Current HG players over 21 in the squad are:
Forster
Whiteman
Austin
Tanganga (Likely to leave)
Davies
Spence (Likely to leave)
Skipp
Sess
Maddison
With Tanganga and Spence most likely leaving we'd have 7 HG. I'd assume one of Austin or Whiteman will be going too which leaves us at 6. If Johnson comes in we're back at 7 and with Maguire or Tosin we'd have 8. Then I wouldn't be surprised to see Sess and/or Davies leaving next season. HG is definitely a factor for us and if I understood @Trix 's ITK correctly, we'd rightly like to make sure this doesn't become a larger issue than it already is in the short-term while banking on our Academy to produce in the long term.
Once again, I'm not advocating for Maguire but I can absolutely see why getting two decent or genuinely good HG players in would be high up on the priority list.
Yeah that's one way of getting players off the books.... I could live with that type of an arrangement. Suits all parties ( clubs & players) perhaps Tosin not so much based on reports he wants Monaco.Likely Tosin with Fulham very interested in Reguilon.