The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 28th May 2012

[tRiKS]

the fact only an injury to BAE stoped Rednapp farming off Bale to Forest should really ring alrm bells in the head people trying to argue Rednapp scouted Sandro.

Dont forget thers been more than one bit of ITK about players not being happy with Rednapp. Many wouldn't care, some would be happy to see him go.

 

[danielneeds]

The Scout doesn't have a great track record apart from Bentley related-stuff.

 

[Clamour_Kid]

Oh, my! There it is the SC cliche to end all cliches. There is no guaranteed "next level" manager, until we pay players £100k-200k a week. Harry got us to the QFs of the CL, has finished in the qualifying position for CL two out of his three full seasons, no manager will guarantee CL every season on our wage budget. That I can guarantee.

I'm sure you would be the first to admit that we could have finished a lot higher in all seasons had some of the tactical decisions that our manager has made before and during matches, and that we were screaming "NO!" to at our streams, had been more astute.

 

[Clamour_Kid]

Oh, my! There it is the SC cliche to end all cliches. There is no guaranteed "next level" manager, until we pay players £100k-200k a week. Harry got us to the QFs of the CL, has finished in the qualifying position for CL two out of his three full seasons, no manager will guarantee CL every season on our wage budget. That I can guarantee.

I seem to remember ramos being the one to take us to the next level too - and we all know how well that worked out![/quote]

Pero, todos sabemos las razones por las que no funcionaron, ¿no?

 

[beats1]

the fact only an injury to BAE stoped Rednapp farming off Bale to Forest should really ring alrm bells in the head people trying to argue Rednapp scouted Sandro.

Dont forget thers been more than one bit of ITK about players not being happy with Rednapp. Many wouldn't care, some would be happy to see him go.

TBH whilst I agree but it was also with noting he was never going to forest as cameroon had qualified for ACON

 

[mattyspurs]

Shall we leave the Harry Redknapp debate now, as it's only going to get this thread locked.

 

[danielneeds]

I'm sure you would be the first to admit that we could have finished a lot higher in all seasons had some of the tactical decisions that our manager has made before and during matches, and that we were screaming "NO!" to at our streams, had been more astute.

Perhaps, but than you have to weigh that against all the good things that Harry has done at the club. He has blind spots and weaknesses, but the club is a much healthier place than four years ago, when he came.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

In the 8 minutes we had to do the transfer?

I think if anyone, Rafa would absolutely thrive under a tactically astute manager (who would stop playing him on the wing for starters).

Like he did under Mourinho you mean?

 

[Clamour_Kid]

Shall we leave the Harry Redknapp debate now, as it's only going to get this thread locked.

I was just debating the Berba1981 ITK. But, I am done now.

 

[The Apprentice]

Is that our first 'done deal' of the summer?

Get your head on the block son.

 

[bomberH]

Would this be the same players who rebelled against him in the final weeks of the season?

The same players who moan about how boring training is because it's the same tired ideas every day?

Who moan about training at 4-2-3-1 all week, then getting thrown out to play 4-4-2?

Sorry Dan, is Gus still working at the training ground then? Or have you got this selective believing going on?

Even if more than one ITK has stated something similar, more than one have also stated it's shite. I wonder why you believe the former....

 

[StartingPrice]

Like he did under Mourinho you mean?

According to the account I heard, Jose was looking forward to working with Rafa...who was shown the back door by the Real board before Mouinho got in the front door (file under: The Joys of Working for Real Madrid).

 

[Bizness]

The Scout doesn't have a great track record apart from Bentley related-stuff.

Not true. Hutton as well. Same agent though.

 

[beats1]

According to the account I heard, Jose was looking forward to working with Rafa...who was shown the back door by the Real board before Mouinho got in the front door (file under: The Joys of Working for Real Madrid).

The madrid fans weren't happy either after his good ending to season before

 

[tRiKS]

Oh, my! There it is the SC cliche to end all cliches. There is no guaranteed "next level" manager, until we pay players £100k-200k a week. Harry got us to the QFs of the CL, has finished in the qualifying position for CL two out of his three full seasons, no manager will guarantee CL every season on our wage budget. That I can guarantee.

I seem to remember ramos being the one to take us to the next level too - and we all know how well that worked out![/quote]a cup.. a glorious semi and final v our greatest rivals?

 

[L-man]

Who was that guy who did ITK round ups during the day in Jan/Summer, we could really do with him on days like today where discussion turns into anything

 

[Spurs_Bear]

are players like bale even that keen on harry?

from what i remember, redknapp had frozen him out just like he's done with dos santos etc,

bale was on his way to notts forest on loan in jan 2010 until ekotto got injured so harry was forced to keep him. All this stuff about harry making bale 'the player he is today' is wide of the mark in my opinion.

and as for him being loyal? where was that loyalty when he ditched portsmouth, got himself ready to leave us for england when they came calling?

in the 2010/11 season, modric got injured around jan. kranjcar was drafted in to play in the centre, scores 2 sublime winners in back to back games, yet isnt given another go in the middle and has been pushed out wide ever since where he is just not fast enough.

i dont want harry to leave but i think all this talk of him being 'loyal' etc just isnt reality, he's a good manager but he's always been about the money.

Ladies and Gents we have ourselves a new spurs_viola!! Ooooh Dos Santos has been frozen out the poor little lamb, frozen out and treated so badly oooooh, it's nothing to do with him being shite honest.

The same rule applies when anyone mentions the Bale to Forest thing, Bale was going to play because if Ekotto hadn't been injured he was off to the ACN. Simple.

 

[ohwhenthespurs]

Not true. Hutton as well. Same agent though.

Rob Segal?

 

[tRiKS]

Ladies and Gents we have ourselves a new spurs_viola!! Ooooh Dos Santos has been frozen out the poor little lamb, frozen out and treated so badly oooooh, it's nothing to do with him being shite honest.

The same rule applies when anyone mentions the Bale to Forest thing, Bale was going to play because if Ekotto hadn't been injured he was off to the ACN. Simple.

all roads lead to Rome... Harry only tried Bale becasue BAE was not available not becasue Bale was a fucking insane talent... who Rednapp now says he always knew. seriously do you buy that shit?

 

[Spurs_Bear]

all roads lead to Rome... Harry only tried Bale becasue BAE was not available not becasue Bale was a fucking insane talent... who Rednapp now says he always knew. seriously do you buy that shit?

I don't buy shit mate.