The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 29th June 2015

[arunspurs]

To really fix the defence, we need a DM.

I would agree largely. But then, do we know whose our best CB combination from last season ?
You would get different answers from fans on this. So, I don't mind fixing CBs positions before DM.

 

[PT]

Well we had ITK that Holtby is pretty much gone abd Paulinho looks close too

The Holtby "ITK" was public knowledge at point of loan departure though, in that there was a price attached to turn loan in to ownership at the end of the season.

 

[dagraham]

Also, the whole team needs to do more off the ball and defend better as a team, that should start from the front. Until we see more of that our defense will continue to be brittle regardless of the personnel.

That said, I hope we are in for him TA, I rate him and the fact that he's played with Jan is a big plus IMO. Understanding and harmony between players is greatly undervalued IMO.

Agree that partnerships at CB are very important and the fact he's played with Jan is a big plus.

I've nothing against signing Alderwield, it's merely an allocation of resources concern. If this was anyone else and we had a decent transfer kitty are were likely to make a considerable net spend on players it wouldn't bother me. It's Spurs though and we know that won't happen. I'd rather we put the money towards buying a quality striker to compete with Kane, rather than a bargain basement buy up front.

 

[Indisguise]

JJ's playfulness over the last couple of weeks is very intriguing/encouraging.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

For those suggesting Plan A is Toby, remember that it's highly unlikely he would join us if was going to be played out of position (DM)- just like how JV didn't want to go to Arsenal for the same reason.

 

[Supersi32]

For those suggesting Plan A is Toby, remember that it's highly unlikely he would join us if was going to be played out of position (DM)- just like how JV didn't want to go to Arsenal for the same reason.

Maybe TA fancies himself as a bit of a midfield enforcer.

 

[mark87]

For those suggesting Plan A is Toby, remember that it's highly unlikely he would join us if was going to be played out of position (DM)- just like how JV didn't want to go to Arsenal for the same reason.

You don't know that, he might have the same viewpoint as Jan in that respect but might not, he may wanna convert to DM. Unless he's said that in an interview at some point?

 

[Mr Pink]

Agree that partnerships at CB are very important and the fact he's played with Jan is a big plus.

I've nothing against signing Alderwield, it's merely an allocation of resources concern. If this was anyone else and we had a decent transfer kitty are were likely to make a considerable net spend on players it wouldn't bother me. It's Spurs though and we know that won't happen. I'd rather we put the money towards buying a quality striker to compete with Kane, rather than a bargain basement buy up front.

I don't think it has to be a bargain basement. Ideally we want a young forward, with a lot of potential, to play back up to Kane. A talented kid who's prepared to sit on the bench. Its either that or a Ricky Lambert equivalent. Good forwards in or around their prime won't want to come to sit on our bench.

And Levy is always prepared to invest in younger players if a decent deal can be done.

 

[Indisguise]

You don't know that, he might have the same viewpoint as Jan in that respect but might not, he may wanna convert to DM. Unless he's said that in an interview at some point?

Maybe TA fancies himself as a bit of a midfield enforcer.

There are plenty of good DMs out there without having to convert TA. I honestly don't think that's our plan.

 

[mark87]

There are plenty of good DMs out there without having to convert TA. I honestly don't think that's our plan.

I'm not saying it is, I was just saying that it's not inconceivable that Toby wants to change his position, that's all.

 

[arunspurs]

I believe, Toby has played less than 10 games in his professional career at DM. He has played mostly as CB for club and RB for country.

If we are going to spend 14mEuros on him, I am sure we are buying to play him at CB

 

[dagraham]

I don't think it has to be a bargain basement. Ideally we want a young forward, with a lot of potential, to play back up to Kane. A talented kid who's prepared to sit on the bench. Its either that or a Ricky Lambert equivalent. Good forwards in or around their prime won't want to come to sit on our bench.

And Levy is always prepared to invest in younger players if a decent deal can be done.

I don't necessarily subscribe to this theory. Good players believe in their ability to be number one and Kane I'm sure would welcome the competition. They may even be attracted by the propect of playing with Kane.

Besides, Kane could get injured at any moment or have a poor run of form. We need game changers on the bench.

 

[Sandro30]

In the last market crash joe Lewis saw bear stearns lose a billion $. I would be shocked if we signed anyone this week while the euro teeters on the brink

If anything it'll be the opposite. THFC's income is getting stronger and stronger against the other major European leagues. Levy is not stupid and knew this was going to happen. For example a transfer fee of 10m euros just got £200,000 cheaper overnight.

 

[ross the saint]

I subscribe to the idea that new signings are not always the answer, but the Toby signing needs to be done.

Kaboul has decended into farce, I personally think Fazio has been terrible, Chiriches clearly hasn't developed in the way he should, Dier and Wimmer are really players for the future, although good enough for the squad now. To make a defense better than the sum of its parts, you need to start with good parts, and I think this will be centre backs finally sorted in a way we haven't seen since Ledley left (albeit only every other game)

 

[Joeyboey]

I believe, Toby has played less than 10 games in his professional career at DM. He has played mostly as CB for club and RB for country.

If we are going to spend 14mEuros on him, I am sure we are buying to play him at CB

Completely agree that he's being bought as a CB but at the same time he can do a more decent job at CM/DM than a lot of what we already have so could help us move on a few (Paulinho, Stambouli, Capoue) without being caught short in the area also.

His versatility would be great for our squad and also our wage bill!

 

[stewartd]

The Euro crisis is relevant.
If their is a further crash in the Euro against the pound it is to our advantage.
In two ways, if we are buying from Europe in Euros any steep decline would be in our favour.
In the same way if we are quoting £ on our sales to European teams we would profit in any slide in the Euro value.
So don't expect many deals to be completed over the next couple of weeks until this currency problem settles.

 

[WalkerboyUK]

If we do sign Toby is that going to piss off Southampton to the point that we can kiss goodbye to any MS deal?

No, because it would simply mean Southampton weren't willing to pay what we were for Toby.
I'd have expected them to tell Liverpool to eff off when trying to sign Clyne after the raping they did last summer!

 

[cliff jones]

To really fix the defence, we need a DM.

that will help, when the opposition breaks quickly and our fbs are too far upfield to get back quickly, faz/dier/verts and last years dms represented a pretty ineffective barrier. look at agueros winner at our place, and countless other examples. are we zone or man marking? if he comes, hope toby improves the defneding of set pieces. they presented no threat in the final till they started winning set pieces...

 

[Sandro30]

The Euro crisis is relevant.
If their is a further crash in the Euro against the pound it is to our advantage.
In two ways, if we are buying from Europe in Euros any steep decline would be in our favour.
In the same way if we are quoting £ on our sales to European teams we would profit in any slide in the Euro value.
So don't expect many deals to be completed over the next couple of weeks until this currency problem settles.

Not necessarily. A European club's expenses are all going to be euros. Perhaps they will have some exposure to USD if they've dealt in South America but clubs will have FX accounts to avoid this scenario hurting too much.

 

[WiganSpur]

To really fix the defence, we need a DM.

And a couple of forward players that press the ball.

I think Toby will help but not to the extent that many think. Our attacking style will always affect our ability to defend, especially when the front four don't help out either.