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Essexyid07

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Why a 2nd striker? HK is in a purple patch that won't last plus fatigue form etc rather than pay 9m for Ings why not pay maybe 6m more & try for benteke? Ings would not get in any other top 5 team imo so why should we settle for him just cos he's a " cheap" option? Benteke scares defenders I don't think Ings has that in his locker imo
 

THFCSPURS19

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Why a 2nd striker? HK is in a purple patch that won't last plus fatigue form etc rather than pay 9m for Ings why not pay maybe 6m more & try for benteke? Ings would not get in any other top 5 team imo so why should we settle for him just cos he's a " cheap" option? Benteke scares defenders I don't think Ings has that in his locker imo
1. I think Benteke would be about £25million
2. Ings isn't a 'cheap' option. He's a player who would fit our system perfectly. Look at that instead of his price. TBH, if he didn't have 6 months left on his contract, he'd probably cost the same as Berahino
3. Kane is our first choice striker. I think we need to get another established and proven striker in the summer but having Ings and Kane and Soldado/Adebayor is fine for now.
 

trasores

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my worry withe levy is that if we know we can get him for £9m - levy will offer £6m + £1.6m in add ons and we'll lose out
 

y1dk1d

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We did pay nearly £17m for Bent almost 8 years ago, so not sure on the scepticism.

He's young enough to pull a profit (for the value part) and we'd only be investing the Defoe money if we went for nearer the £8m mark, giving them Lennon/Towsend etc. on loan in part?
I suppose. Differences though are that Ings has 6 months left, we were in a worse scenario and in desperate needs then and Bent was more proven in the premier league when we signed him
 

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I suppose. Differences though are that Ings has 6 months left, we were in a worse scenario and in desperate needs then and Bent was more proven in the premier league when we signed him

Perhaps, but with football inflation he was probably more expensive than Soldado was (based on the full shebang £27m or so)
 

y1dk1d

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Perhaps, but with football inflation he was probably more expensive than Soldado was (based on the full shebang £27m or so)
Thing is, we look at our league position and think "great, we've not even been that impressive but we've still got a chance. An addition or two could get us in the top four"

But

Maybe I'm wrong but I can't help but think that Levy thinks "Well we're near the top four so there's no need for anyone else"

I personally think Ings would be a great signing. Him and McCarthy would go a very long way IMO. Of course I'm not saying it's easy to bring them in this window as it's far from it but I think that players like this could make a real difference
 

DannySafer

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I just got a hunch that whoever they decide to bring in is to play with Kane rather than deputise for him. I think with his ball retention and dribbling ability, Kane is better coming from deep. With a no9 in front of him with an equal work rate and ability like an Ings or Benteke they will create the space for him to move into. At the moment he is creating the space and scoring all on his own and big credit to him but he's also become a feared and respected striker and as we saw with Bale, the bigger teams will find a way to nullify his threat.

Just my opinion, but I see Kane as more of a Sheringham then a Klinsmann, albeit with a lot more work rate which is perfectly suited to the modern game.
 

kd2000

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Why a 2nd striker? HK is in a purple patch that won't last plus fatigue form etc rather than pay 9m for Ings why not pay maybe 6m more & try for benteke? Ings would not get in any other top 5 team imo so why should we settle for him just cos he's a " cheap" option? Benteke scares defenders I don't think Ings has that in his locker imo
I suppose we could just throw another 6m at this for Benteke (which wouldn't get him) after all its not our money and Levy is known to just go batshit crazy with our funds.
Granted Kane will possibly have a dip in form but is Benteke really worth the extra bucks?? He's not that scary really and Ings has been performing better in a supposedly inferior team.
As for Ings not getting in any other top 5 team............Kane wouldn't have done at the beginning of the season, wasn't even in ours much, Is he not worth 9million now?? You rarely (especially spurs) buy the finished article and potential is sometimes a larger part of a transfer fee. Ings is only a year older than Kane, Lots wrote Kane off and now look....
 

spurs9

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I just got a hunch that whoever they decide to bring in is to play with Kane rather than deputise for him. I think with his ball retention and dribbling ability, Kane is better coming from deep. With a no9 in front of him with an equal work rate and ability like an Ings or Benteke they will create the space for him to move into. At the moment he is creating the space and scoring all on his own and big credit to him but he's also become a feared and respected striker and as we saw with Bale, the bigger teams will find a way to nullify his threat.

Just my opinion, but I see Kane as more of a Sheringham then a Klinsmann, albeit with a lot more work rate which is perfectly suited to the modern game.
If we move Kane to "behind the striker" then Eriksen has to either play on the left (where he is nowhere near as effective) or drop him. If we do play Eriksen, then Chadli would have to be dropped and has our most assists and is second top goal scorer. IMO, if we are to improve the first team (from the AM3 up) it has to be the right side. Ings would be cover for Kane and Chadli IMO.
 

DaSpurs

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Get Ings from Burnley for 8m & give Pritchard on loan. Surely that's a good deal for all 4.

Interesting shout actually. Not a doubt in my mind we asked for Pritch to not be cup tied for a reason, if even to make him more valuable to potential future loan recipient.
 

Jospur

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How about this for a scenario?

The Club makes a few player sales in the coming days/weeks and then let's it be known (ITK) that Ings is the prime target. It gets down to the final night of the transfer window with the Club in last minute negotiations with Ings and Burnley that fail.

Instead of Ings Levy announces that a Saha type has been signed. "We tried our best but Ings just didn't want to move...".

Believable?

Anyone remember Moutinho, Musacchio, others?
 

shelfboy68

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How about this for a scenario?

The Club makes a few player sales in the coming days/weeks and then let's it be known (ITK) that Ings is the prime target. It gets down to the final night of the transfer window with the Club in last minute negotiations with Ings and Burnley that fail.

Instead of Ings Levy announces that a Saha type has been signed. "We tried our best but Ings just didn't want to move...".

Believable?

Anyone remember Moutinho, Musacchio, others?

Its believable when you have individuals running the transfer policy.
 

Kiedis

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We may or may not get Ings. The only thing I'm somewhat sure of is that if we do get him (or any other player(s), it will be at the end of the month, well after our gruelling January schedule.
 

cliff jones

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Kane is certainly most effective off the front, ie a modern ten not a nine. so we should target a line leader, someone who can give Harry a deserved anti blow out breather. not an ings or berahinho. but a Benteke. Eriksen and Chadli either side, nominally, but with plenty of interchange and the full backs pushed on as is Pochs mandate. Lamela and Lennon on cover. Townsend to go along with Ade and Solly.

We can recoup the outlay for the big Belgian from the summer. or some of it a bit sooner if we can get shot of somecdeadwood this month.

id also love to see Dembele in the ten or even nine, but accept that whilst Bentaleb and Mason are unavailable he plays deeper.
 
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