The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - DEADLINE DAY 31st August 2021

[Teegart]

So Nuno plays 3 up top and we will have around 60 games all in this season in the league and various cups. Yet Levy thinks 5 senior players are enough to cover? Deary me.

Before anyone says Dele and GLC can play there, they would be the absolute definition of square pegs for round holes.

 

[olliec]

What’s the point of hiring DOF when levy and his annoying bald head has to always get involved. He should be nowhere near this deadline day. He just pisses me off so much. Anytime we are about to make a statement he steps in with this bullshit.

 

[StanSpur]

Seriously i do wonder about people on here. Firstly there is no proof that Levy has stopped any deal bar one ITK post which, whilst in all good faith COULD be slightly inaccurate or biased in some way. Secondly, nobody on here has a clue about what deals were, or were not in the pipeline anyway. Thirdly of those deals, nobody knows what the selling clubs were asking AND, more importantly HOW they wanted to be paid. Finally, nobody on here knows the current financial position of the club with regards to commitments and revenue forecasts.

If you take all these unknowns and add them together i cannot see how anyone can get so bent out of shape about anything they read on here.

IF Levy said no to the deal with Wolves, it may be because they want a large portion, or all, of the c£45m upfront. Levy may have budgeted that amount but is unable to sanction it all in one year. He would then have a duty to the club and shareholders not to push the in-year spend above their operating budget. By doing so he may jeopardise the clubs credit rating and impact the ability to "re-mortgage" the loan debt that they are constantly trying to rebalance. Look at the Ronaldo deal. Utd are paying c£18m for him over FIVE years. Utd have way more cash coming in than Spurs and even they wont front up £12m in one year.

However disappointing you think the window is, it has to be in context with the club you support. Tottenham do not have huge sums of money to play with and if we cannot structure a deal within our means we should not risk the future accounts. At the end of the day we have found a potential long-term replacement for Hugo before he leaves next season on a free. We have upgraded our RB position which was one of the weakest positions last season. We have strengthened our CB position by replacing Toby with a younger model. We have refreshed the CM by bringing Skipp back and releasing Sissoko. We have brought in the talented Gil (who will play more than most think), we have brought in an exciting young CM for the future, kept our talisman, signed Son up to a new contract and replaced a manager who was not supported by the fans or the players. That is not a bad summers work. No there is no replacement for Vinicius (but did he offer more than Scarlett could do this season? I dont think so) and no we haven't replaced Bale directly but between Gil, Berg and Lucas could they not fill that goal/assist tally? Probably.

We are Tottenham, not City or Utd or Chelsea, we cannot compete with them in regards to dealing in the market and if we compare our transfer dealings and squads to them we will always be disappointed. We need to be looking at clubs like Leicester who are able to scout and develop players into those of "top 4" quality. We will be a nearly club until we get lucky or get sold, we have to live with that fact and just enjoy the ride......or get off.

 

[archiewasking]

Same old Levy. He always lets us down.

Fyp ?

 

[amathews3416]

Thank God for Levy. I was certain Paritici had us well on our way to doing a Leeds with all this cash he was trying to burn.

 

[thelak]

Seriously i do wonder about people on here. Firstly there is no proof that Levy has stopped any deal bar one ITK post which, whilst in all good faith COULD be slightly inaccurate or biased in some way. Secondly, nobody on here has a clue about what deals were, or were not in the pipeline anyway. Thirdly of those deals, nobody knows what the selling clubs were asking AND, more importantly HOW they wanted to be paid. Finally, nobody on here knows the current financial position of the club with regards to commitments and revenue forecasts.

If you take all these unknowns and add them together i cannot see how anyone can get so bent out of shape about anything they read on here.

IF Levy said no to the deal with Wolves, it may be because they want a large portion, or all, of the c£45m upfront. Levy may have budgeted that amount but is unable to sanction it all in one year. He would then have a duty to the club and shareholders not to push the in-year spend above their operating budget. By doing so he may jeopardise the clubs credit rating and impact the ability to "re-mortgage" the loan debt that they are constantly trying to rebalance. Look at the Ronaldo deal. Utd are paying c£18m for him over FIVE years. Utd have way more cash coming in than Spurs and even they wont front up £12m in one year.

However disappointing you think the window is, it has to be in context with the club you support. Tottenham do not have huge sums of money to play with and if we cannot structure a deal within our means we should not risk the future accounts. At the end of the day we have found a potential long-term replacement for Hugo before he leaves next season on a free. We have upgraded our RB position which was one of the weakest positions last season. We have strengthened our CB position by replacing Toby with a younger model. We have refreshed the CM by bringing Skipp back and releasing Sissoko. We have brought in the talented Gil (who will play more than most think), we have brought in an exciting young CM for the future, kept our talisman, signed Son up to a new contract and replaced a manager who was not supported by the fans or the players. That is not a bad summers work. No there is no replacement for Vinicius (but did he offer more than Scarlett could do this season? I dont think so) and no we haven't replaced Bale directly but between Gil, Berg and Lucas could they not fill that goal/assist tally? Probably.

We are Tottenham, not City or Utd or Chelsea, we cannot compete with them in regards to dealing in the market and if we compare our transfer dealings and squads to them we will always be disappointed. We need to be looking at clubs like Leicester who are able to scout and develop players into those of "top 4" quality. We will be a nearly club until we get lucky or get sold, we have to live with that fact and just enjoy the ride......or get off.

Whatever Daniel

 

[rez9000]

Loving some of the comments that are along the lines of 'we had a good window' which tacitly condone Levy's interference. Some people are missing the point:

If he interferes this time, he'll interfere next time, and the time after that, and the time after that. So why hire a DoF in the first place? What's the point? Why have two experienced football people in charge of recruitment if you're not going to let them do their jobs? Jobs that you pay them to do?

 

[S17PUR]

Sad to hear about the total lack of signings, but can't wait to hear about that big cash injection we couldn't reveal because it'd make teams raise their asking prices...

 

[Dakes]

Seriously i do wonder about people on here. Firstly there is no proof that Levy has stopped any deal bar one ITK post which, whilst in all good faith COULD be slightly inaccurate or biased in some way. Secondly, nobody on here has a clue about what deals were, or were not in the pipeline anyway. Thirdly of those deals, nobody knows what the selling clubs were asking AND, more importantly HOW they wanted to be paid. Finally, nobody on here knows the current financial position of the club with regards to commitments and revenue forecasts.

If you take all these unknowns and add them together i cannot see how anyone can get so bent out of shape about anything they read on here.

IF Levy said no to the deal with Wolves, it may be because they want a large portion, or all, of the c£45m upfront. Levy may have budgeted that amount but is unable to sanction it all in one year. He would then have a duty to the club and shareholders not to push the in-year spend above their operating budget. By doing so he may jeopardise the clubs credit rating and impact the ability to "re-mortgage" the loan debt that they are constantly trying to rebalance. Look at the Ronaldo deal. Utd are paying c£18m for him over FIVE years. Utd have way more cash coming in than Spurs and even they wont front up £12m in one year.

However disappointing you think the window is, it has to be in context with the club you support. Tottenham do not have huge sums of money to play with and if we cannot structure a deal within our means we should not risk the future accounts. At the end of the day we have found a potential long-term replacement for Hugo before he leaves next season on a free. We have upgraded our RB position which was one of the weakest positions last season. We have strengthened our CB position by replacing Toby with a younger model. We have refreshed the CM by bringing Skipp back and releasing Sissoko. We have brought in the talented Gil (who will play more than most think), we have brought in an exciting young CM for the future, kept our talisman, signed Son up to a new contract and replaced a manager who was not supported by the fans or the players. That is not a bad summers work. No there is no replacement for Vinicius (but did he offer more than Scarlett could do this season? I dont think so) and no we haven't replaced Bale directly but between Gil, Berg and Lucas could they not fill that goal/assist tally? Probably.

We are Tottenham, not City or Utd or Chelsea, we cannot compete with them in regards to dealing in the market and if we compare our transfer dealings and squads to them we will always be disappointed. We need to be looking at clubs like Leicester who are able to scout and develop players into those of "top 4" quality. We will be a nearly club until we get lucky or get sold, we have to live with that fact and just enjoy the ride......or get off.

LevyStanSpur (sorry, couldn't resist)

 

[Cavehillspur]

If true about Levy Fabio should tell him to shove his job up his hole, completely undermining his position at the club, pointless. Fucking annoying.

 

[Lawrence]

I don't think it is Levy meddling beyond what was agreed at the start. The free rein given to DOF would obviously come with a budget constraint. The fact that Ndombele and the rest can't be shifted means we can't find $ for creativity. The reason we are buying defenders first simply shows our priority.

So while it is insane to not have creativity and strike options, these are simply lower in priority than defence. So expect defensive games.

The best we can hope for are last minute loans for aging mid fielders or old strikers.

 

[Yapptiestrap]

Wasn’t expecting a full rebuild in one window. Think we needed a creative midfielder and a striker however. 6.5/10 window for me

 

[Cavehillspur]

We went from this morning "paying what was needed for Traore", to "too expensive" within a few hours. As far as I'm aware the fee didn't change.

Pretty much like the chairman.

 

[spursfan77]

The context of JJ’s post hasn’t really been explained
has it?

He was asked “if we announce Emerson early does that mean it’s that’s all folks?”

JJ replied “TAF”


Have we announced Emerson yet???

 

[YB123]

Wasn’t expecting a full rebuild in one window. Think we needed a creative midfielder and a striker however. 6.5/10 window for me

6.5 is generous imo.

 

[Norvern Munkey]

Those questioning why we've signed another RB over attacking options..... From what others are saying, this will become apparent in the coming weeks. Probably a pivotal signing long term.

3 4 1 2 formation IMHO

 

[Chris Flynn]

I'm guessing it's 3 at the back with more emphasis on the attack coming from the width.

Tanganga being converted into a striker. Levy has been impressed by Michel Antonio

 

[YB123]

The context of JJ’s post hasn’t really been explained
has it?

He was asked “if we announce Emerson early does that mean it’s that’s all folks?”

JJ replied “TAF”


Have we announced Emerson yet???

Of course we havent. We will announce him with a few hours to go to look like we've been busy today.

 

[jurgen]

Thank God for Levy. I was certain Paritici had us well on our way to doing a Leeds with all this cash he was trying to burn.

The line between humour and hardcore BSoDL rhetoric is so blurry these days

 

[bbunc]

I'm guessing it's 3 at the back with more emphasis on the attack coming from the width.

Would make some sense with 5 CBs (if you count Davies, and I guess even 6 if you count Japhet) and a few fullbacks maybe better suited to wingback.

That said, if we’re playing Kane and Son up top, who backs them up? Setting up the whole team dependent on Kane and Son playing every single game doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. Being part of a front two doesn’t suit any of our other wing forwards/AMs.