The Daily ITK Discussion Thread SEE FIRST POST! - 4 July 2011

[Monkeyface]

A player with £45,000-a-week would cost our club to have their contract written off, freeing him to resume his career elsewhere, about £7m as a write-off.

We are not the only club with 4 or more players would are surpluss thanks to the new fair play rules.

However I understand that there is up to £45million loss allowed fir each club for the next three years to allow them to comply with the new regs, so we can 'afford' to sell players at a loss so we must do the business now because come end of the ransomer window we may still post a loss for any player sold but more importantly we may miss out on the signings we need to keep moving forward.

Hope that makes sense?

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

For the second time, whoever might be to blame for the squad we now have is nowhere near being a suitable topic for this thread. as intersting as the subject might be, please take it to Spurs Chat.

Your assistance is appreciated. He lied.

 

[kremlyn]

Our biggest and most glaring mistake was buying Bentley which was, I think, a Comolli move. We already had a good RW and 16m should, at that time have been spent on a LW as Bale hadn't progressed, or a junior striker. At the time we could have moved for either Ben Arfa or Drenthe for less money, either would still be a valuable addition to the squad now. And there were some good young strikers available including Negredo and Soldado. Comolli had an eye for developing talent but it had no bearing on the actual and future needs of the squad leaving the manager to fill voids with square pegs (bentley on the LW) and a disaster weaiting to happen should we have lost either Berba or Keane (and look at what happened).

 

[kremlyn]

For the second time, whoever might be to blame for the squad we now have is nowhere near being a suitable topic for this thread. as intersting as the subject might be, please take it to Spurs Chat.

Your assistance is appreciated. He lied.

Sorry!

 

[Spurger King]

For the second time, whoever might be to blame for the squad we now have is nowhere near being a suitable topic for this thread. as intersting as the subject might be, please take it to Spurs Chat.

Your assistance is appreciated. He lied.

Our biggest and most glaring mistake was buying Bentley which was, I think, a Comolli move. We already had a good RW and 16m should, at that time have been spent on a LW as Bale hadn't progressed, or a junior striker. At the time we could have moved for either Ben Arfa or Drenthe for less money, either would still be a valuable addition to the squad now. And there were some good young strikers available including Negredo and Soldado. Comolli had an eye for developing talent but it had no bearing on the actual and future needs of the squad leaving the manager to fill voids with square pegs (bentley on the LW) and a didater weaiting to happen should we have lost either Berba or Keane (and look at what happened).

:lol:

 

[Hot-Spur]

Saying as this is Independence Day, I think it would be a great day to sign Rossi :hump:

 

[rawhide]

For the second time, whoever might be to blame for the squad we now have is nowhere near being a suitable topic for this thread. as intersting as the subject might be, please take it to Spurs Chat.

Your assistance is appreciated. He lied.

Are you taking lessons from Harry?

Should we believe your daily roundup anymore?

 

[pablo73]

I think AM's point is that all of those players did their part in keeping us in the league, which was the only thing that Redknapp could consider when he inherited Juande's mess.

If he'd inherited a club in a stronger position then he could have thought a bit more long term but all of the players listed above did their bit (apart from Naughton) in keeping us in the league.

Of course whether Harry has it in him to think more long term is a different issue, but when you look at how successful we've been under him so far it's hard to criticise him for having 'an overinflated squad'.

I get the point he's making and, as I said, there's some truth in it. However, I don't believe he would have done any different had we been mid table or top 6. I think that is borne out by the face he bought Crouch when we were in a good position and he was all over Joe Cole when we'd qualified for the Champions League.

With a bit of imagination, we should have been looking at a far higher quality of palyer at those points. It's that imagination he lacks in my opinion, he sticks to what he knows - I think he still has the same mindset as he had at Portsmouth and am amazed that he is so effective at deflecting all criticism away from himself. Yes, he has done a decent job but his record on player purchases has been pretty poor to say the least and he shouldn't be immune to criticism for that.

He's hardly known for leaving clubs in a better position than he found them - there is surely a reason for that. Personally, I have lost a lot of confidence in him to identify the players we need to progress and I thought that was supposed to be one of his main strengths.

Edit: Oops, sorry A & C, just seen your post

 

[kishman]

David Haye blames "broken toe" for defeat.

More like a "camel toe" as you boxed like a ****.

:rofl:

 

[Paolo10]

Good grief at the fucking state of this thread after 3/4 pages... Monday Blues? Fuck me, have a coke and a smile.

Retrospective blaming of managers for the state of the current squad (very strong as it happens) is both stupid and pointless, I particularly liked ignoring the players' contributions in getting us into the Chmpions League. They're our players now lads and we can't do anything about the fact unless one of you happens to have a DeLorean, some Plutonium and a flux capacitor lying around. Great Scott...

 

[Spurger King]

Good grief at the fucking state of this thread after 3/4 pages... Monday Blues? Fuck me, have a coke and a smile.

Retrospective blaming of managers for the state of the current squad (very strong as it happens) is both stupid and pointless, I particularly liked ignoring the players' contributions in getting us into the Chmpions League. They're our players now lads and we can't do anything about the fact unless one of you happens to have a DeLorean, some Plutonium and a flux capacitor lying around. Great Scott...

Scott Parker? :think: He's alright I guess. I wouldn't say great.

 

[rawhide]

Saying as this is Independence Day, I think it would be a great day to sign Rossi :hump:

Any day would be a great day to sign Rossi...

 

[AFred]

I'm sure that every club in the land is aware of who is available and how much that player is likely to cost. But ultimately it is down to the agents to sell their clients.

This could be one of the factors behind our swap shop offer to Bolton. Maybe remind the players that if they don't find new clubs we'll find one for them.

This is definitely the stumbling block on incomings though, that's for sure

Even if we find new clubs for players we no longer need, they can simply decline the move.

Nothing we can do to make them agree personal terms with the new club and sign a contract even if the transfer fee has been agreed....

 

[cwy21]

Big part of the large squad is a number of players turning 21.

 

[ParkLaneUpper]

The next couple of weeks are going to be key for a few teams I think, players will start to move. As long as we come out of this window stronger then we went in, I will be happy.

And hopefully the wheels will have come off down the other end of Seven Sisters road. They seem to be running out the door there.

 

[Hot-Spur]

Any day would be a great day to sign Rossi...

Very true :razz:

 

[Paolo10]

The next couple of weeks are going to be key for a few teams I think, players will start to move. As long as we come out of this window stronger then we went in, I will be happy.

And hopefully the wheels will have come off down the other end of Seven Sisters road. They seem to be running out the door there.

Nasri, Clichy , Fibreglass, RvP... anyone else? Woud love to see them completely self destruct (for a change)!

 

[We'llWinThePrem]

THIS IS THE DAY WE DO SOMETHING!

i hope

 

[StartingPrice]

We all know Levy's got his loose change hidden within the walls of the stadium...there's probably £25million quid stashed away all in dirty, pooed up pennies.

Another £30million odd in euros, nickels and dimes he's collected over the years.

Besides, the Levy's got more airmiles than the Clooney in Up in the Air...can't he trade them in for a new striker?

Dear Mr Chairman of (add club here)

Wanna go around the world several times a year? If so, give us (add striker) and we'll make it happen. In installments. Yes, the way you purchase a tumble dryer.

Thanks,

The Levy

P.S, Don't mess...I'm different.

:rofl:

How do you know what way Levy deals with these outgoings? This is all speculation. Us not shifting deadwood could be down to a combination of factors. Unless you actually work for the club on transfers I don't think any of us are in a position to question whatever policies are in place because we simply just don't know what is going on.

THIS
So many on here are obsessed with the contradictory notions that it will be virtually impossible to sell our dead wood but at the same time Levy should just sell our dead wood, that they seem to have lost the ability to think clearly (some may never have had it).
If a lot of teams are struggling to fulfill the 25 squad rule and the home-grown players rule, then clearly, even though our dead wood are better than most of their 1st teamers, they, too, will have to sell before they can buy. And our dead wood, no matter what some of you think about them, could ALL get into a team in the bottom half of the table and improve them. So, it is kinda like a pyramid with the shi'ite running down hill, and this will, inevitably lead to even more of a complex game than is usual. But our Daniel is quite good at this game, and holding good players, even though dead wood to us, does give us certain advantages.
It's that simple, really - I suspect most of this mob, who imagine the TM is simple and Levy/Redknapp are farting about, would have a nervous break-down after the first week in that position with that responsibility and all of those balls to keep in the air at the same time:grin:

can't believe there's 3 pages and not 1 poster has said what a quality line A & C came up with re David Haye, pure genius

I was getting to it...it was class:grin:

Good grief at the fucking state of this thread after 3/4 pages... Monday Blues? Fuck me, have a coke and a smile.

Retrospective blaming of managers for the state of the current squad (very strong as it happens) is both stupid and pointless, I particularly liked ignoring the players' contributions in getting us into the Chmpions League. They're our players now lads and we can't do anything about the fact unless one of you happens to have a DeLorean, some Plutonium and a flux capacitor lying around. Great Scott...

THIS

 

[fazza]

Phantom Of The Lane, on 04 July 2011 - 10:08 AM, said:
Pre season started today. Everyone was back in for a 9am start. Bloods and body fat testing early doors before some fitness tests later.
Obviously some exceptions with players playing in tournaments over the summer, but the vast majority are back.

Some will not be here for long, we have other friends to join in the coming weeks.

You know what it isssss

POTL