The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - THE HISTORY OF ITK EDITION 18th June 2015

[mckenz]

Fat chance. MS is a smokescreen for a lack of real intention to splash the cash. We won't make any significant purchases. First game of the season will see mason and bentaleb in CM. Only big movement will be lloris out, late in window. You all know I'm right.

Good - In that case you don't really need to read this thread for the rest of the summer eh?

keep smiling

 

[branchie]

John or Jill?

Jenny

 

[$hoguN]

**SMOKESCREEN KLAXON**

Who had 22 June?

Been suggested before now

 

[Jospur]

Who would you like to see come in at DM?

William Carvalho (Sporting CP) or Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg (Bayern Munich) spring to mind. Both would be excellent players in the middle of the park. Yes, I understand that these players might baulk at coming to Spurs but cash can change opinions. The tendency at the Club is to bring in 'affordable' players and if they don't work out they tend to sit on the bench. If they're sitting on the bench then they're still being paid their 'affordable' wages. That's a waste of money. Better to spend three times the salary of a bench-warmer on a locked-in starter than three to six players who seldom get a chance to play.

A smaller squad of high-quality players would also provide openings for the wealth of up-and-coming talent to play a part when injury or loss-of-form becomes a factor.

 

[Jospur]

Who would you like to see come in at DM?

Mikel Jon Obi is another defensive midfielder who could come in and play a significant part. Chelsea's evident interest in Moussa Dembele might be a way to open that door. (I have to admit that I've come to appreciate Dembele and what he can do on the field and I'd hate to see him leave). Of course a Dembele to Chelsea move might also open the door for a Spurs' move for Mohamed Salah.

 

[Nocando]

Why the fuck are our transfer deals always so bloody complicated? You'd think all Levy has to do is get the player and his agent into his cave / office and just hover his finger over the button that opens the floor into the shark pool.

"So you expect me to talk"

"No Mr Schneiderlin I expect you to sign*"

*It's actually quite easy to do a Sean Connery impression by saying MS' name















































































I bet you tried.

 

[Doctor Dinkey]

William Carvalho (Sporting CP) or Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg (Bayern Munich) spring to mind. Both would be excellent players in the middle of the park. Yes, I understand that these players might baulk at coming to Spurs but cash can change opinions. The tendency at the Club is to bring in 'affordable' players and if they don't work out they tend to sit on the bench. If they're sitting on the bench then they're still being paid their 'affordable' wages. That's a waste of money. Better to spend three times the salary of a bench-warmer on a locked-in starter than three to six players who seldom get a chance to play.

A smaller squad of high-quality players would also provide openings for the wealth of up-and-coming talent to play a part when injury or loss-of-form becomes a factor.

Everything you say is perfectly sensible. However its not the way that spurs have operated in recent years and its difficult to see levy changing his ways, especially with the impending stadium costs.

 

[Indisguise]

Why the fuck are our transfer deals always so bloody complicated? You'd think all Levy has to do is get the player and his agent into his cave / office and just hover his finger over the button that opens the floor into the shark pool.

"So you expect me to talk"

"No Mr Schneiderlin I expect you to sign*"

*It's actually quite easy to do a Sean Connery impression by saying MS' name















































































I bet you tried.

Shocking! Positively shocking!

 

[Nocando]

Shocking! Positively shocking!

Told ya.

 

[spacessships]

Mikel Jon Obi is another defensive midfielder who could come in and play a significant part. Chelsea's evident interest in Moussa Dembele might be a way to open that door. (I have to admit that I've come to appreciate Dembele and what he can do on the field and I'd hate to see him leave). Of course a Dembele to Chelsea move might also open the door for a Spurs' move for Mohamed Salah.

You don't want Kramer but you would be ok with Mikel?? This is literally who Mourinho is trying to replace and why Dembele has been mentioned

 

[dondo]

Kramer must be about 23/24 now....maybe your thinking of a different Kramer

Cosmo?

 

[Jospur]

Everything you say is perfectly sensible. However its not the way that spurs have operated in recent years and its difficult to see levy changing his ways, especially with the impending stadium costs.

Actually I think the approach of buying 'quality' would save cash as significant money wouldn't have to be spent on players that don't play. And we obviously have too many of these. They key here, of course, is in identifying that talent. We've failed in that regard in a big way recently. Hopefully the new 'scouting' talent will fix that. It should be a very interesting transfer window.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

I personally think Dembele is an excellent player when fit and on his game, so saying he is similar to Dembele is not an issue to me as long as he is the fit on form one that has destroyed some of the best CM's in the world on his day. He is the only player I can remember that to make an inform Toure look less than ordinary. He has also dominated midffield proceedings against Chelsea, Pool and multiple times against Yanited. The problem with Dembele is not his game type but the fact he couldn't replicate his best game anywhere near enough(a lot of that because of injury). If we were to get a player that played like Dembele but do it week in week out then imo we have a true world class DM/CM. I personally havent seen enough of him to have an opinion on whether he can be that good or not, but I have certainly seen a lot of references likening him to Dembele.

But Dembele clearly isn't compatible with a system that wants to transition quickly, which is what all the evidence of Poch suggests he wants us to do.

As an AM dribbling at people in the final third no problem, as a CM he's just too slow to release the ball and it's rarely incisive when he does.

 

[Jospur]

You don't want Kramer but you would be ok with Mikel?? This is literally who Mourinho is trying to replace and why Dembele has been mentioned

I know that. I regard both Dembele and Mikel highly. Mikel doesn't get to play much because of the outstanding Matic. In a way it's like the Courtois/Cech situation. Cech seldom got a chance to play last season but he must be rated as one of the world's top five goalkeepers.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

This thread is really allowed to go in all and every direction today. Too bad I can't be more active today, I feel like I'm missing out.

 

[FreddieYid]

Mikel Jon Obi is another defensive midfielder who could come in and play a significant part. Chelsea's evident interest in Moussa Dembele might be a way to open that door. (I have to admit that I've come to appreciate Dembele and what he can do on the field and I'd hate to see him leave). Of course a Dembele to Chelsea move might also open the door for a Spurs' move for Mohamed Salah.

No to Kramer. Yes to Mikel.
I mean this with the greatest respect, but... You're off your box mate.

 

[Lufti]

William Carvalho (Sporting CP) or Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg (Bayern Munich) spring to mind. Both would be excellent players in the middle of the park. Yes, I understand that these players might baulk at coming to Spurs but cash can change opinions. The tendency at the Club is to bring in 'affordable' players and if they don't work out they tend to sit on the bench. If they're sitting on the bench then they're still being paid their 'affordable' wages. That's a waste of money. Better to spend three times the salary of a bench-warmer on a locked-in starter than three to six players who seldom get a chance to play.

A smaller squad of high-quality players would also provide openings for the wealth of up-and-coming talent to play a part when injury or loss-of-form becomes a factor.

Not a DM

 

[Japhet]

Mikel Jon Obi is another defensive midfielder who could come in and play a significant part. Chelsea's evident interest in Moussa Dembele might be a way to open that door. (I have to admit that I've come to appreciate Dembele and what he can do on the field and I'd hate to see him leave). Of course a Dembele to Chelsea move might also open the door for a Spurs' move for Mohamed Salah.

Shudder.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Either this thread starts getting back on topic or i'll put on my thunderpants and set about people with the banstick