The Daily ITK Discussion Thread THE S.O.S EDITION 14th January 2014

[carpediem991]

Daily Mirror claiming Capoue, Chadli, Lamela and Holtby want to leave and the Express say we will sell Capoue at a £1.5m loss.

That's when you know these articles are bullshit

1. Saying that there is going to be an exodus is always rubbish and it's clear there is an agenda against our club
2. Express saying we're gonna sell at a loss? Levy NEVER gonna sell at a loss

Still news I don't want to read about our club. Can absolutely imagine they aren't happy.

 

[Gedson100]

So tired of the 'We looked at Suarez and chose not to buy him' story.

There must be literally hundreds and thousands of players we look at and reject; SOMETIMES they turn into one of the best players in the world. It's a totally unscientific process. Maybe someone thought 'Nah, he's on the edge.' And they'd have been right.

Spurs scouts scouted and purchased Gareth Bale; there you go: you win some, you lose some.

 

[SpurSince57]

Daily Mirror claiming Capoue, Chadli, Lamela and Holtby want to leave and the Express say we will sell Capoue at a £1.5m loss.

That's when you know these articles are bullshit

1. Saying that there is going to be an exodus is always rubbish and it's clear there is an agenda against our club
2. Express saying we're gonna sell at a loss? Levy NEVER gonna sell at a loss

Levy has frequently had to sell at a loss. However, this is clearly a bunch of shit.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Levy has frequently had to sell at a loss. However, this is clearly a bunch of shit.

Not after six months though!

 

[thfcsteff]

Selling Holtby and Chadli would be fine by me. Neither have done enough. Capoue? I like him but he'll get squeezed numbers-wise. Everytime I see Chadi now I remain convionced he's Sasha Baron Cohen on a wind-up...

 

[The Scarecrow]

We need a defender who can cover CB and LB and thats it.

At the moment I don't think it would be good to buy new players. Half of our squad struggles with settling in already.

We could do with a top class striker. I have no idea who that would be, though.

 

[thinktank]

Levy should consider the fact that both Les and Tim watched Suarez (recommendation of Ruud Gullit) on several occasions while he plied his trade in Holland. They didn't think we should persue him prior to Liverpools interest as they felt he wasn't that good! Funny old game eh?!

If we'd have brought him here we'd have only gone and fucked it up and ruined him.

Bullet dodged as far as he's concerned.

 

[Darragh]

We could do with a top class striker. I have no idea who that would be, though.

a hungry benteke for me.. real real handful and while u have defenders bouncing off him soldado nips in to get hatful

 

[thinktank]

Noticed a couple of things in respect of Louis Van Gaal a couple of pages back. I have to say he seriously concerns me too, the reason:

Our board are an absolute nightmare to deal with and a volatile manager is never gonna work. He'll probably walk as soon as he finds out exactly what he's let himself in for, or if he takes Levy on there'll only be one winner.

I'm not sure I can deal with another season or two of transition!

Sherwood may or may not be the right guy for the job but I very much hope he is, as he is pretty much the only type of manager that I could see lasting here (pretty much every other type has failed):-
1. He knows exactly what he's dealing with (board, players, transfer policy and funds). This is key.
2. He seems to have Levy's ear and confidence
3. It's almost impossible for Levy to use him as a scapegoat at this stage
4. He's happy to use youth rather than just demand expensive players from other leagues all the time (might not always be a benefit, but at least he will be less likely to use failed transfers as an excuse)
5. Suggests he understands the club and it's philosophy, although as it seems half of the fans hate him already that probably doesn't count for much!

That's all totally great and it's genuinely enticing and I want to believe, but I want to see real tangible expertise coming through in our play with displays showing his knowledge of preparing/forming and executing advanced tactical ideas.

 

[kr1978]

Levy should consider the fact that both Les and Tim watched Suarez (recommendation of Ruud Gullit) on several occasions while he plied his trade in Holland. They didn't think we should persue him prior to Liverpools interest as they felt he wasn't that good! Funny old game eh?!

I seem to remember Harry redknapp admitting that was his call as he thought he was too similar to van der vaart

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

ok donation question. My paypal account is suspended because someone hacked it and spent a butt load of money, mainly on dominos pizzs which is funny as i spend a lot of time wanting to order some but there is none here where i am, anyway i digress...

can i do some form of bank transfer?

Also does anyone know if the cookies from the ads are sticky because i buy lots of shit of amazon and have clicked the ad but don't every time.

Don't think so, If you send a PM to Rob he'll point you in the right direction.

 

[Pedro]

Daily Mirror claiming Capoue, Chadli, Lamela and Holtby want to leave and the Express say we will sell Capoue at a £1.5m loss.

That's when you know these articles are bullshit

1. Saying that there is going to be an exodus is always rubbish and it's clear there is an agenda against our club
2. Express saying we're gonna sell at a loss? Levy NEVER gonna sell at a loss

What has chadli got to be upset about, has played more games than his talent deserves IMO compared to the other players available. He has had loads more chances than lamela for example, and shown what?

 

[SpartanSpur]

That's all totally great and it's genuinely enticing and I want to believe, but I want to see real tangible expertise coming through in our play with displays showing his knowledge of preparing/forming and executing advanced tactical ideas.

I agree it is with hope more than expectation and there haven't been signs to the contrary, but that's why these next two games will be telling.

It is this paradox between tangible rewards and intangible concerns to date that have caused the split in opinion on Sherwood (in addition to the personal issues that I have no interest in). Personally I think people have chosen sides too soon and we should all be in the cautiously optimistic/pessimistic phase.

 

[DannySafer]

That's all totally great and it's genuinely enticing and I want to believe, but I want to see real tangible expertise coming through in our play with displays showing his knowledge of preparing/forming and executing advanced tactical ideas.

But We had advanced new age tactical ideas under AVB and it bored me to death. I agree that there is definitely a balance to be found we are obviously far more open and vulnerable. After the "no risk" based negative tactics employed before it is a culture shock. It makes me nervous. However, I think we have to consider that, cup games aside, TS has done well. He hasn't had the benefits of players like Paulinho, Sandro, Verthongen and Townsend. Against West Ham he was forced to play Fryers and Capoue in the back four we can't ignore this. He's had the courage to blood a completely unknown youngster in key games and results suggest it was a very good decision. He isn't a glamorous name or an experienced tactician but he's shown that he is a strong manager who's not afraid to stick it to Levy. I'm not completely sold but I think he is our best option at the moment as the club is starting to lose its soul.

 

[thinktank]

But We had advanced new age tactical ideas under AVB and it bored me to death. I agree that there is definitely a balance to be found we are obviously far more open and vulnerable. After the "no risk" based negative tactics employed before it is a culture shock. It makes me nervous. However, I think we have to consider that, cup games aside, TS has done well. He hasn't had the benefits of players like Paulinho, Sandro, Verthongen and Townsend. Against West Ham he was forced to play Fryers and Capoue in the back four we can't ignore this. He's had the courage to blood a completely unknown youngster in key games and results suggest it was a very good decision. He isn't a glamorous name or an experienced tactician but he's shown that he is a strong manager who's not afraid to stick it to Levy. I'm not completely sold but I think he is our best option at the moment as the club is starting to lose its soul.

Let's face it, he's gone completely the other way to win the fans over and prove a point. I am expecting him to calm it soon and make more level headed decisions.

If he gets his balls out at swansea they'll hurt us.

Midfield will be the battle there so I'm very much looking forward to how he'll approach it.

 

[arunspurs]

If we are really letting go of Holtby & Capoue (loan or sell), I would like us to bid for Ravel Morrison. Wetspam rejected 4m bid from Fulham today. Looks like, he can be got for 8m.

Surely, there is not a better prospect than him in that position. Agreed he is not a DMF ,but he is a CM who can also play be attacking mid.

I know he had some off field issues. Almost everyone does nowadays. He is just the kind of player we need to look at.

 

[Snarfalicious]

If we are really letting go of Holtby & Capoue (loan or sell), I would like us to bid for Ravel Morrison. Wetspam rejected 4m bid from Fulham today. Looks like, he can be got for 8m.

Surely, there is not a better prospect than him in that position. Agreed he is not a DMF ,but he is a CM who can also play be attacking mid.

I know he had some off field issues. Almost everyone does nowadays. He is just the kind of player we need to look at.

Don't see the point to be honest. He's not an out-and-out striker which is what I really think is the only thing missing in our squad at this point. He's played as an attacking midfielder, central midfielder and some off the striker but I think his best positions are more advanced up the pitch. Morrison is undoubtedly talented, but Lamela in my opinion easily trumps his talent and they'd most likely be fighting for playing time in the same positions.

 

[arunspurs]

Don't see the point to be honest. He's not an out-and-out striker which is what I really think is the only thing missing in our squad at this point. He's played as an attacking midfielder, central midfielder and some off the striker but I think his best positions are more advanced up the pitch. Morrison is undoubtedly talented, but Lamela in my opinion easily trumps his talent and they'd most likely be fighting for playing time in the same positions.

I know I am making an unpopular point here. Throwingaside his off field antics & who he represents,he is a very good ppotential. Thing is he can easily slot in CM as well as do the job of Eriksen. Main attraction ofcourse is he would costs just 8m.

Lamela - yes in ideal world where we see the best of him , there is no need of Morrison.

 

[Snarfalicious]

I know I am making an unpopular point here. Throwingaside his off field antics & who he represents,he is a very good ppotential. Thing is he can easily slot in CM as well as do the job of Eriksen. Main attraction ofcourse is he would costs just 8m.

Lamela - yes in ideal world where we see the best of him , there is no need of Morrison.

Yeah, I see where you're coming from with it as it represents a good value with the potential to really turn into a fantastic buy if he can keep his nose clean and continue to progress.

It's just we are so overloaded right now it looks like a couple need to be sold/loaned just so we can appease the ones we will have left here because of Sherwood's preferred tactics.

 

[theShiznit]

What has chadli got to be upset about, has played more games than his talent deserves IMO compared to the other players available. He has had loads more chances than lamela for example, and shown what?

Maybe the fact that he can see his (once) certain WC place going up in smoke?

WC's come around once in a lifetime for a lot of players (even exceptional ones) so don't underestimate the importance of playing leading up to it.

I think there will be a lot of worried players in our dressing room at the moment.