The Daily ITK Discussion Thread THE S.O.S EDITION 14th January 2014

[Snarfalicious]

Maybe the fact that he can see his (once) certain WC place going up in smoke?

WC's come around once in a lifetime for a lot of players (even exceptional ones) so don't underestimate the importance of playing leading up to it.

I think there will be a lot of worried players in our dressing room at the moment.

Yeah, this whole problem with the lack of playing time is definitely exacerbated with the WC looming in the summer. It's unfortunate but you can't really get upset with the guys who need that playing time to ensure their place. Wilmots said himself that if he's available/healthy, Chadli will always be a player he selects. He holds him in high regards and rightfully so, he's very versatile.

I think we're going to see more of Chadli in the coming months. He's going to need to play in some fashion either out wide or as a support striker. I think his best position in the EPL could end up being a striker as he does have decent pace, he's strong on the ball and he's good in the air. I just hope that the promise for playing time can be enough if it is actually being mentioned to him.

 

[theShiznit]

Yeah, this whole problem with the lack of playing time is definitely exacerbated with the WC looming in the summer. It's unfortunate but you can't really get upset with the guys who need that playing time to ensure their place. Wilmots said himself that if he's available/healthy, Chadli will always be a player he selects. He holds him in high regards and rightfully so, he's very versatile.

I think we're going to see more of Chadli in the coming months. He's going to need to play in some fashion either out wide or as a support striker. I think his best position in the EPL could end up being a striker as he does have decent pace, he's strong on the ball and he's good in the air. I just hope that the promise for playing time can be enough if it is actually being mentioned to him.

He definitely has good attributes (similar to Dembele) but doesn't seem that dynamic in his play, and his wing play can (at times) look predictable.

Not sure where he is best suited to playing and lets it unless you've seen him for Twente (or where ever) it's not like we've seen a lot to judge someone in a new league, but i feel an unfortunate side effect of signing lots of players at once is that their grace period is collectively shortened.

Striker wouldn't be a bad shout though as he's a strong lad with a bit of pace and can certainly hold up the ball.

Our WC situation was definitely helped by Romania, Denmark and Iceland not qualifying though, as that could/would have made it a lot worse.

 

[arunspurs]

Yeah, this whole problem with the lack of playing time is definitely exacerbated with the WC looming in the summer. It's unfortunate but you can't really get upset with the guys who need that playing time to ensure their place. Wilmots said himself that if he's available/healthy, Chadli will always be a player he selects. He holds him in high regards and rightfully so, he's very versatile.

I think we're going to see more of Chadli in the coming months. He's going to need to play in some fashion either out wide or as a support striker. I think his best position in the EPL could end up being a striker as he does have decent pace, he's strong on the ball and he's good in the air. I just hope that the promise for playing time can be enough if it is actually being mentioned to him.

Agreed. Chadli's best position could be Striker. He is good in the air, has some dribbling skills & a powerful shot. Things are not going for the moment in front of the goal. I would rather want to see him in ST than from wing.

 

[Twizzle]

Capoue is the only reasonable fill in that we have for CB, can't see him leaving while Kaboom's future is unknown unless we get a replacement CB.

 

[Snarfalicious]

Capoue is the only reasonable fill in that we have for CB, can't see him leaving while Kaboom's future is unknown unless we get a replacement CB.

I also think Sherwood could view Veljkovic as a squad player replacement to Capoue. It sucks because Capoue is so talented. He can boss a game like Sandro and he's got the passing ability to distribute all over the pitch.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

I think we're going to see more of Chadli in the coming months. He's going to need to play in some fashion either out wide or as a support striker. I think his best position in the EPL could end up being a striker as he does have decent pace, he's strong on the ball and he's good in the air. I just hope that the promise for playing time can be enough if it is actually being mentioned to him.

But this is a problem of itself, it seems the Chadli and Lamela, according to Tim, are in direct competition for 4th spot in our strike force, that is until Defoe leaves. I would like to see more of Chadli but not at the expense of Lamela and I really can't see Tim playing Chadli as a CF with Erik behind him. Ether way I do get the feeling that Erik is 5th choice for the supporting striker role which is very depressing. Seems we are in a real mess and the more players that get disgruntled the more it could effect the morale of the entire team.

 

[carpediem991]

a hungry benteke for me.. real real handful and while u have defenders bouncing off him soldado nips in to get hatful

I think a Benteke type of player would suit us but it could cause another problems:
- Adebayor could start crying again cause he isn't the only main man anymore
- If he still is Benteke is angry with his game time and wants to play to keep his place in the national team
- Lamela is one man more down of the pecking order

Normally I am really hungry of players who can improve us but atm I am so sick of it ,and no matter why, I see potential disasters waiting to happen. Let's see what happens...

 

[Snarfalicious]

I think a Benteke type of player would suit us but it could cause another problems:
- Adebayor could start crying again cause he isn't the only main man anymore
- If he still is Benteke is angry with his game time and wants to play to keep his place in the national team
- Lamela is one man more down of the pecking order

Normally I am really hungry of players who can improve us but atm I am so sick of it ,and no matter why, I see potential disasters waiting to happen. Let's see what happens...

Even though I think we could use another out-and-out striker, you almost have to wonder why we would at this point. Sherwood needs to show that he can rotate the players and still put out a side that is capable of winning. If he has any expectations of keeping the job after this season is over he needs to show that he can rotate, adapt some tactics to get guys on the pitch and in some cases play different formations. I just feel as though he's a one-trick pony who doesn't appear to have much of a backup plan if Plan A goes to shit. I've said it before but Swansea should be a match that he can show if he's learned anything. If he trots out Bentaleb and Dembele in the 4-4-2 we could end half down 2-0 with little to no hope of salvaging a result.

 

[carpediem991]

Even though I think we could use another out-and-out striker, you almost have to wonder why we would at this point. Sherwood needs to show that he can rotate the players and still put out a side that is capable of winning. If he has any expectations of keeping the job after this season is over he needs to show that he can rotate, adapt some tactics to get guys on the pitch and in some cases play different formations. I just feel as though he's a one-trick pony who doesn't appear to have much of a backup plan if Plan A goes to shit. I've said it before but Swansea should be a match that he can show if he's learned anything. If he trots out Bentaleb and Dembele in the 4-4-2 we could end half down 2-0 with little to no hope of salvaging a result.

Agree with that Swansea thing. We need someone to destroy their "nice" play and get the balls back. For me surely either Capoue or Sandro. But have a feeling we will see the same formation and cm than last games.

 

[arunspurs]

But this is a problem of itself, it seems the Chadli and Lamela, according to Tim, are in direct competition for 4th spot in our strike force, that is until Defoe leaves. I would like to see more of Chadli but not at the expense of Lamela and I really can't see Tim playing Chadli as a CF with Erik behind him. Ether way I do get the feeling that Erik is 5th choice for the supporting striker role which is very depressing. Seems we are in a real mess and the more players that get disgruntled the more it could effect the morale of the entire team.

End of the day, regardless of which position he plays , Lamela has to start showing something. He has incredible support from fans. Most here are willing to give him lots of time, in spite of his timid displays till now. Every Spurs knows he is a great talent, but he has got to grab his chances.

Tbh, Nabil has showed you dont need a run of games to capture the imagination of fans & manager. Lamela, I guess for the first time in his career is fighting for a spot in the XI. We don't know if has those fighting qualities.

If he wants the starting XI spot for Spurs & be in Argentina squad, he better start earning it. No point getting disgruntled when not producing the goods. This holds true for Chadli as well.

 

[Pedro]

Maybe the fact that he can see his (once) certain WC place going up in smoke?

WC's come around once in a lifetime for a lot of players (even exceptional ones) so don't underestimate the importance of playing leading up to it.

I think there will be a lot of worried players in our dressing room at the moment.

Fair point, but did he expect to walk straight into our team? I don't dislike him as a player, seems solid, and a decent squad player to have. I haven't seen anything that would suggest he should be first choice though. Unlike lamela he has had chances and not taken them. If he wanted guaranteed playing time he should have gone to a mid table club or a lesser league. Of those mentioned I think he has least to be unhappy about.

 

[whitelanefever]

If we are really letting go of Holtby & Capoue (loan or sell), I would like us to bid for Ravel Morrison. Wetspam rejected 4m bid from Fulham today. Looks like, he can be got for 8m.

Surely, there is not a better prospect than him in that position. Agreed he is not a DMF ,but he is a CM who can also play be attacking mid.

I know he had some off field issues. Almost everyone does nowadays. He is just the kind of player we need to look at.

True players have off the field problems, though most players problems don't involve a glass pipe ( allegedly) & gang culture..
Stay well away imo

 

[spurs-r-us]

I hope we sell Chadli. Only half decent league game he's played for us so far was Liverpool for a half. Obviously he could still come good, but he strikes me as a player who is renowned for his physical prowess rather than his technical skills - and the fact that he's barely been able to show that in his time here suggests that he's unlikely to be anything special.

 

[spurs-r-us]

True players have off the field problems, though most players problems don't involve a glass pipe ( allegedly) & gang culture..
Stay well away imo

Danny Rose used to be fairly involved in gang culture, rumour has it. Down in Leeds I think, and one of our managers threatened his contract to make him stop.

 

[thfcsteff]

Danny Rose used to be fairly involved in gang culture, rumour has it. Down in Leeds I think, and one of our managers threatened his contract to make him stop.

Interesting…he is not good enough for me. His focus is appalling, one or two blindingly stupid positional errors a game. Never mind that absurd mistake at the death star, I was furious for him once again being caught out as the first goal developed. He'd got away with an even worse one minutes earlier, when Walnut did him with ease. Total liability.

 

[yankspurs]

Danny Rose used to be fairly involved in gang culture, rumour has it. Down in Leeds I think, and one of our managers threatened his contract to make him stop.

Once your in, your never out. And if you try to leave, you're essentially a marked man, sorta like the mafia. So I highly doubt this is true.

 

[Vwbottom]

Let's face it, he's gone completely the other way to win the fans over and prove a point. I am expecting him to calm it soon and make more level headed decisions.

If he gets his balls out at swansea they'll hurt us.

Midfield will be the battle there so I'm very much looking forward to how he'll approach it.

Timmeh says 4-4-2.

 

[Booney]

I know I am making an unpopular point here. Throwingaside his off field antics & who he represents,he is a very good ppotential. Thing is he can easily slot in CM as well as do the job of Eriksen. Main attraction ofcourse is he would costs just 8m.

Lamela - yes in ideal world where we see the best of him , there is no need of Morrison.

Who cares if we already have plenty of cover in that position? Would massively infuriate Wet Spam fans and might secure their relegation. That's got to be worth £8million of anyone's money.

I say do it. We can always loan him to Leyton Orient in 6 months or so.

 

[ackie]

I just hope that the Holtby deal to Schalke doesn't mean J. Draxler to Arsenal

The Daily Mail and the Daily Mirror report that Arsenal are ready to break the bank and sanction a £30m-plus deal for Schalke playmaker Julian Draxler.

 

[jezz]

End of the day, regardless of which position he plays , Lamela has to start showing something. He has incredible support from fans. Most here are willing to give him lots of time, in spite of his timid displays till now. Every Spurs knows he is a great talent, but he has got to grab his chances.

Tbh, Nabil has showed you dont need a run of games to capture the imagination of fans & manager. Lamela, I guess for the first time in his career is fighting for a spot in the XI. We don't know if has those fighting qualities.

If he wants the starting XI spot for Spurs & be in Argentina squad, he better start earning it. No point getting disgruntled when not producing the goods. This holds true for Chadli as well.

Sorry mate
Young bentalib is getting a run games.
Not exactly brilliant a against Arse.
Lamela has not played consecutive games.
Give lamela a run then come back and tell about bentalib.