The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - The Window is open!

[thinktank]

Did you 'get' the Alderweirld love in or the Alli love in during the summer? And i bet you (like me) thougt that anyone raving about how we had to hold on to Dembele and Lamela at any cost over that window were nutters.

Yet here we are 6 months later with the first two players above being potential MVPs this year and the second two also being as likely for that.

In Poch and his team we trust, if he thinks Berahino is the one then i am happy to trust his judgement this time round.

Don't be silly, that's mah boi.

Toby had an excellent rep. at SCBC and the fans were distraught he was being sold.

Alli was an obvious talent and was performing large and I knew he'd be a hit, just not so soon. Actually, if you go to the season's prediction thread or whatever it's called I think I put him as getting out POTY award come May.

Dembele was already here so not relevant.

I haven't seen anything substantial from Bera to make me feel that I should overlook his issues just because Poch is fixated with his potential. I trust poch but when he, himself, is not sure whether to trust his own judgement and is all "should I, shouldn't I" then I think we should give this one a miss.

 

[brasil_spur]

I haven't seen anything substantial from Bera to make me feel that I should overlook his issues just because Poch is fixated with his potential. I trust poch but when he, himself, is not sure whether to trust his own judgement and is all "should I, shouldn't I" then I think we should give this one a miss.

I'm sure we have to take those commments on Poch trusting himself with a pinch of salt. There's also the team behind him who do all the player scouting, so it's not just Poch deciding on players by all accounts.

I agree TA was highly rated, BUT no-on predicted that his signing alone would turn us to the team with one of the worst defensive records in the league to the one with the best.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Why did he also give a speach saying that a backup striker was not a necessity and that son etc... could cover.

Yes we wanted him in the summer and i don't think it was ideal. I just don't think that we were as desperate for him as some make out, otherwise we'd have got him before going for son and njie. Let alone werner.

And did we not try, try & try again? We almost certainly would have got him, were it not for Peace & his ridiculous posturing. It's not the fault of THFC that we didn't get him before signing Son & N'jie, and I personally think it's blatantly obvious that we did all we could to sign him, both before & after the signings of Son & N'jie.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Did you 'get' the Alderweirld love in or the Alli love in during the summer? And i bet you (like me) thougt that anyone raving about how we had to hold on to Dembele and Lamela at any cost over that window were nutters.

Yet here we are 6 months later with the first two players above being potential MVPs this year and the second two also being as likely for that.

In Poch and his team we trust, if he thinks Berahino is the one then i am happy to trust his judgement this time round.

It's no secret that I am not one who's keen on Berahino, but that is one hell of a post. Well bloody said

 

[thinktank]

I'm sure we have to take those commments on Poch trusting himself with a pinch of salt. There's also the team behind him who do all the player scouting, so it's not just Poch deciding on players by all accounts.

I agree TA was highly rated, BUT no-on predicted that his signing alone would turn us to the team with one of the worst defensive records in the league to the one with the best.

We can't tell the future. I agree. You have to weigh things up, research, make judgements and consider risk.

 

[cliff jones]

Why did he also give a speach saying that a backup striker was not a necessity and that son etc... could cover.

Yes we wanted him in the summer and i don't think it was ideal. I just don't think that we were as desperate for him as some make out, otherwise we'd have got him before going for son and njie. Let alone werner.

But didn't he make that statement after our bids for bera were waived away and the window slammed shut in our faces? He would say that, wouldn't he.

 

[y1dk1d]

Did you 'get' the Alderweirld love in or the Alli love in during the summer? And i bet you (like me) thougt that anyone raving about how we had to hold on to Dembele and Lamela at any cost over that window were nutters.

Yet here we are 6 months later with the first two players above being potential MVPs this year and the second two also being as likely for that.

In Poch and his team we trust, if he thinks Berahino is the one then i am happy to trust his judgement this time round.

Brilliant post. To add to this who would have thought Eric Dier would prove to be one of the best DMs of the season? He's been great. I would've been furious at the start of the season thinking he was the long term plan but Poch made a great decision.

And then one of Poch's first thing at at Spurs was pinning Rose down to a long term deal when we all thought he was a really poor left back. Rose was good last season and this season it's great to see Rose and Davies push each other for that starting spot.

Pochettino has made some unorthodox decisions that have ended up being a stroke of genius. Never have I had so much faith in a manager so what he says I believe

 

[Nigel Spinal]

People are forgetting that we were chasing Berahino when Lamela was leaving.

Now Lamela has had a storming 6 months, playing at a level Berahino will never, things have changed.

 

[PMS]

I think that Lamela I'd fuck Lamela. I also have he a drink. Still I reckon o might be bi. Or he could just be my man crush.

Bottom line he questions my sexuality.

 

[EQP]

I think that Lamela I'd fuck Lamela. I also have he a drink. Still I reckon o might be bi. Or he could just be my man crush.

Bottom line he questions my sexuality.

Layoff that herb bruh

 

[THFCSPURS19]

People are forgetting that we were chasing Berahino when Lamela was leaving.

Now Lamela has had a storming 6 months, playing at a level Berahino will never, things have changed.

Lamela was clearly staying on Deadline Day.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

I think that Lamela I'd fuck Lamela. I also have he a drink. Still I reckon o might be bi. Or he could just be my man crush.

Bottom line he questions my sexuality.

Nope, I tried Google translate & even that had no bloody idea what you've said

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

I think that Lamela I'd fuck Lamela. I also have he a drink. Still I reckon o might be bi. Or he could just be my man crush.

Bottom line he questions my sexuality.

Erik Lamela: wreaking havoc over Spurs fans' sexuality and use of grammar since 2013.

 

[Hoopspur]

Nope, I tried Google translate & even that had no bloody idea what you've said

Must admit though, and having just read the last couple of pages (my internet woz broke), that he made as much sense as most of the other stuff!

 

[nailsy]

Nor do I hence my emboldened in my original post.
Although @Trix seems to think he may be the only one.

Although Trix said that Berahino was the only player likely to be incoming he posted this just afterwards....

I never said there was no plan B or even C.

 

[Rogmeister]

I think that Lamela I'd fuck Lamela. I also have he a drink. Still I reckon o might be bi. Or he could just be my man crush.

Bottom line he questions my sexuality.

Legalise cannabis they said! It doesn't affect your brain they said!

 

[midoNdefoe]

I'm confused as to how you're not seeing the point I'm making? Is it not straightforward?

Poch has wanted, and has chased Berahino for some 6 months or so now but, all of a sudden, there's ITK saying Poch isn't sure because of concerns about how Berahino could be disruptive.

Berahino is still the same player, and same person that he's been since our interest was confirmed. Berahino has been acting in the same manner since that interest was confirmed.

I stated myself in the response you initially quoted, "I'd imagine Poch, the guy who apparently looks deeply into a players mentality before deciding if he wants him"

So, taking that into account, after so many different ITK's have repeatedly stated that Berahino is "the one" for Poch, why is it only now that the doubts about his possible disruptive attitude have been brought up ?

If Poch/Mitchell really do look deeply into a players attitude etc before deciding whether to make a move or not, they won't have needed the last 6 months to finally realise that it's a possibility where Berahino is concerned. If that tweet in the summer didn't at least open their eyes a little, they are nowhere near as good at their jobs as I currently believe they are.

What has made you think the concern over his mentality, is a new concern? The itk snippet from Ben doesn't suggest its a new concern.

Imo i could see why they may be more cautious now, considering the lack of play he has seen in recent months and the apparent continued lack of professionalism.
For me, there is a difference between pushing for a move during the window - and outright refusing to play/train, or generally commit (in a mental rather than contractual level) to the club he is at.
What will he be like for us after a good season and United or the likes come knocking....?

 

[miamispur]

I think that Lamela I'd fuck Lamela. I also have he a drink. Still I reckon o might be bi. Or he could just be my man crush.

Bottom line he questions my sexuality.

And to think we went crazy during the last window over cabbage cryptics!
This one will put this place in meltdown

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

What has made you think the concern over his mentality, is a new concern? The itk snippet from Ben doesn't suggest its a new concern.

Imo i could see why they may be more cautious now, considering the lack of play he has seen in recent months and the apparent continued lack of professionalism.
For me, there is a difference between pushing for a move during the window - and outright refusing to play/train, or generally commit (in a mental rather than contractual level) to the club he is at.
What will he be like for us after a good season and United or the likes come knocking....?

I have neither said, nor implied that it's a new concern. What I have said is, I find it extremely difficult to believe that a coach who is now renowned for assessing a players attitude etc before deciding whether to attempt to sign him or not, is (according to ITK) only now questioning whether he wants the player or not.

As I've spent most of the afternoon attempting to get this point across, but one or two have still yet to understand my point, I'll try to simplify my point (no patronisation intended )..

This is the ITK thread, no? And up until the last day or two, the ITK we've had has repeatedly stated that Berahino is very much the striker Pochettino would prefer to sign.

So, taking that into account, and listening to those who have said they don't see my point, and are asking me what makes me think this is a new concern from Pochettino, I'll say this. If it's not a new concern, why, up until the last day or two, has pretty much every bit of ITK we've had on this subject suggested/stated that Berahino is very much the striker Pochettino wants, and one (Trix?) even saying that his source believes everything is in place, if this concern is not a new one?

It doesn't add up!

 

[npearl4spurs]

Legalise cannabis they said! It doesn't affect your brain they said!

No apparently affects said member's penis.