Jules77
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If you ask arsenal fans they'll say it has, but that wenger just won't spend that cash.
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Like Wenger Levy does not like to spend money so it will not change when we have the new stadium 100%
Gb160
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Thing is though Gaz, when they planned and built the Emirates there was no Chelsea or City in the guise they're now in, and if that wasn't the case I'd imagine Woolwich would've had a couple more titles by now.
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If we have stripped out the squad of Bentaleb, Mason, Carroll?, Njie, Pritchard and Chadli, with just Wanyama, Janssen and possibly Nkoudou incoming, then I definitely feel someone is holding us back.
There are general upgrades in Wanyama and Janseen for DM and CF respectively, but the Dembele role continues uncovered, and it remains to be seen of Nkoudou is an upgrade on Chadli and Njie.
Quite shortsighted to leave the squad so bare, especially when all teams around us are actively strengthening, investing the new TV money in their playoff squads to ensure the y finish high up the league and reap the financial benefits.
I understand Levy is a business man and we are run sensibly, but not moving with the times is effectively moving backwards.
The initial performances this season have highlighted our need to invest in the squad.
Is that down to Levy holding us back, or Poch not willing to spend, I don't know, but when bang average mid table clubs show more decisiveness and ambition in the transfer market, something has to be seen as wrong.
I so for example, ambitious yes, but realistic, probably not. Coric, talented, turned down City over progression concerns. We should be all over that, talented player not yet in Isco's league but would be a huge asset for us, and DZ don't appear to holding out for stupid money. But will we just sit on what we have instead, mistake. The space has been cleared, funds raised, a refusal to reinvest is definitely not a sign of an ambitious club.
There are general upgrades in Wanyama and Janseen for DM and CF respectively, but the Dembele role continues uncovered, and it remains to be seen of Nkoudou is an upgrade on Chadli and Njie.
Quite shortsighted to leave the squad so bare, especially when all teams around us are actively strengthening, investing the new TV money in their playoff squads to ensure the y finish high up the league and reap the financial benefits.
I understand Levy is a business man and we are run sensibly, but not moving with the times is effectively moving backwards.
The initial performances this season have highlighted our need to invest in the squad.
Is that down to Levy holding us back, or Poch not willing to spend, I don't know, but when bang average mid table clubs show more decisiveness and ambition in the transfer market, something has to be seen as wrong.
I so for example, ambitious yes, but realistic, probably not. Coric, talented, turned down City over progression concerns. We should be all over that, talented player not yet in Isco's league but would be a huge asset for us, and DZ don't appear to holding out for stupid money. But will we just sit on what we have instead, mistake. The space has been cleared, funds raised, a refusal to reinvest is definitely not a sign of an ambitious club.
If you reread what I wrote, you'll see I spoke about wages, not fees.
Arsenal, Liverpool, ManU, etc all pay wages we simply cannot afford on our turnover.
Wijnaldum was a case in point. We dropped out of the race to buy him cos our wage structure wouldn't allow us to sign him.
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Carroll is still with us
Yedlin and Pritchard weren't in the squad last year
Bentaleb, and Clinton hardly made any Squads last season
So just Mason and Chadli played a part last season.
If we bring in the youngsters to cover Bentaleb and Clinton, then Wanyama is in for Mason and I hope we bring someone in for Chadli.
I look at Levy and I think did it hurt him that we lost the league to Leicester? did it hurt him that we finished behind Arsenal? and I think the answer is no it didn`t again plus net spend on transfers what is the point of it all we should be investing more in the team..
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I hate every season when we finish 5th to Arsenal or Last year where the camera pans to him and I just think YOU DID THIS
Then why is our chairman on £3million a year more than any other chairman and paid better than a CEO of a FTSE100 company?
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People can look at the positves all they like burying their head in the sand but in reality this has been a joke of a window. We have dithered for the last month over this fucking Nkoudou deal and STILL haven't concluded it despite the guy posting pictures on social media of him in a spurs tracksuit. We have sold all our expereinced squad players and bought no real replacements in. You only have to take one look at our ridiculous subs bench and see a bunch of 19 year old kids occupying it. Only spurs can work so hard to get in the CL and actually be worse off the season we are playing in it. Once Dembele is back, i'm almost certain Wanyama will be benched and Janssen won't start every game either. Clubs all around us are buying quality and moving forward whilst spurs are taking 2 steps back.
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I understand your point, but that's just a replace like-for-like situation. It's not doing what all our main rivals and even the teams below are doing. They are all strengthening. We are NOT.
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Playing devils advocate, the same was said of relying on Kane and moving Dier to DM last season. Maybe Winks ends up being a great alternative to Dembele. Maybe Josh or Edwards really steps up. Maybe the lack of activity allows a fringe player like Son to really shine. It's hard to say at this point but this version of Spurs has earned our trust and faith for the moment, imo. If we fall back massively this season then fair enough.
Agree on Coric though. Should be all over him.
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But that's a debate for another thread.....
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Realistically, we did our business early (albeit the Nkoudou deal is taking excruciatingly long) so last minute bargains aside, was this ever likely to be a jam packed day? Not sure why people haven't kicked off earlier about it if they weren't happy.
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I see what you're saying, but you have to look at the makeup of our fixture list also.
Away to some tinpot semi pro side on a Thursday in the Europa group stages you can get away with fielding reserves and youth players to a certain extent. Tuesday/Wednesay in the champions league, that just isn't going to cut it.
Think Dortmund, CM of Carroll and Mason, didn't pan out so well.
We have sold one of that pair, with rumours the other is being offered out. Bentaleb, our only other senior CM outside of Dembele and Dier last year has also gone.
So potentially 3 CM's out, only one in. Are Winks and Onomah ready to step into the breach if needed?? I'd like to hope so, for the sake of our club, and for the premise of our academy setup delivering, but it's too early to say.
As for AM, we have sold a steady squad member, probably not a starter, but a known quantity, plus a promising academy graduate. About to also sell a guy who's had very little chance to live up to expectations due to injury in his one season, to be replaced with another relatively unknown quantity. I hope he proves to be the real deal, but it's a big risk going into a competitive season where we have to juggle CL with PL, and three teams with new managers, (4 teams if you factor in Klopp's first pre-season) spending big to back their new managers.
I'd love the gamble to pay off, because ultimately I'm a Spurs fan, and I want is to be successful, but in reality, I do feel our approach this summer to sell so many and not really invest in adequate replacements to the calibre our rivals are recruiting is exactly that, a gamble. Our rivals are investing to try and stay ahead of the pack, we are not, at least not to the same extent. Is Levy holding back the money trying to do it on the cheap, or is Poch genuinely happy with his lot, only time will tell.
It must be a fine margin, juggling a sustainable business model, no debt, new stadium, with staying competitive in a results driven business, and that in truth is why I'm not a football chairman, manager nor football expert. Just a Spurs fan with an opinion.
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lukespurs7
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They won 2 FA cups and bought ozil and Sanchez from real and barca both in their prime.
It's just that wenger has got some of his other player recruiting wrong and doesn't seem to be able to get the tactics and motivation right like he used to. Arsenal are in as good a shape as any club now with that stadium, they just are a bit stale as wenger has been there too long in my option.
If we get the new stadium and turn over bigger profits I really can't see us not starting to spend big. You guys clearly have no idea how much it's costs to build a new stadium and training ground these things will set us up for years and years rather than spending big on a player and then not moving forward off the pitch.
Swings and roundabouts.
That having said if Chavski get Sissoko there is something wrong there we should have enough funds for that given how many players we've sold!
Or maybe a massive thunderstorm strkes the Manchester Derby and when Chelscum play the Arse and injures 40 players. We'll end up winning the EPL.
It seems to me, that getting rid of those players was Poch's decision
Yedlin he was never serious about but all the rest had potential, I particularly want him to explain why he got rid of a player again after only one season.
All the transfer talk as unsettled Son who seems uncertain about the future. When you think about AVB he had one bust up with Adebayor and that caused people to question his man management skills.
The back up for Dembele was not a deal breaker for me, the squad is still good enough to achieve something, Levy can always cite Leicester city, a team that spent 54 million and won the league. They beat us at our own game.
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False equivalency. They were able to pay the wages before the stadium. Since building the stadium, they have regressed on the pitch.
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It probably did. He is a Spurs supporter. But it's a good job that he can separate his passion for us as a club from running us as a business. Of course he wants us to to win everything. But not at any cost. Do you really want a chairman in charge of our club who reacts to his emotions and just pays whatever the said club are asking (even if it means we get in debt doing so), considering we have a stadium to build.
Leicester proved that you don't need to spend big to win. Even us, to a degree, have proved that you don't need to spend stupid money on players to challenge.
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