The England Thread

[13VanDerBale13]

The sooner Southgate goes, the better.
It’s like ConteBall all over again.

 

[mark87]

Foden - Kane - Saka

Maddison - Rice - Bellingham


That front six is much better than what we'll see.

 

[Tucker]

Henderson and Maguire....... yeah team not picked on who's playing the best for club

Southgate has always played favourites. He’s so conservative, that he daren’t trust the in form players unless the press and public are holding his feet to the fire.

Henderson being picked despite moving to Saudi is particularly galling.

 

[mark87]

I do wonder if Southgate is too close to the players. If Maguire is having a hard time, maybe being dropped by England would make it even worse?

Trying to understand why he is picked tbh.

I think that's all it is, which is fucking ridiculous. Southgate will claim it's because he's never let england down, which is fucking nonsense.

 

[Johnny J]

No way should Henderson be starting now. Play Maddison as an attacking midfielder and start Rashford as a wide forward.

 

[Grey Fox]

Southgate once said " I'll pick players on form" , well that's just been proven a load of bollocks

 

[Dannyspur]

Maguire and Henderson should be nowhere near the squad. Surely there are better options than them.

 

[muppetman]

Southgate has always played favourites. He’s so conservative, that he daren’t trust the in form players unless the press and public are holding his feet to the fire.

Henderson being picked despite moving to Saudi is particularly galling.

Henderson is a strange pick also - he's clearly in the twilight of his career and so picking him for qualifiers doesn't make a hug amount of sense. Unless, Southgate values his experience in what is otherwise a relatively young team?

 

[Johnny J]

Southgate once said " I'll pick players on form" , well that's just been proven a load of bollocks

It's why Postecoglou has been such a breath of fresh air for us. Just straight up ditches the old standbys from the first team and doesn't even include Dier in the squad.

 

[muppetman]

It's why Postecoglou has been such a breath of fresh air for us. Just straight up ditches the old standbys from the first team and doesn't even include Dier in the squad.

I think with Ange this is a deliberate part of him stamping his identity on the team. The interesting thing will be if he continues to do so after a year or so.

 

[Johnny J]

Henderson is a strange pick also - he's clearly in the twilight of his career and so picking him for qualifiers doesn't make a hug amount of sense. Unless, Southgate values his experience in what is otherwise a relatively young team?

That team still has a ton of experience. Kane, Walker, Pickford, Rice. Saka is young but is experienced now. And Bellingham has just walked into Real and instantly dominated La Liga.

 

[Yid-ol]

It's why Postecoglou has been such a breath of fresh air for us. Just straight up ditches the old standbys from the first team and doesn't even include Dier in the squad.

Also dropped richarleson after not scoring in a couple of games. Managers are paid to act like that, not stick by x players because he's a mate.

Best for the team/club means hard choices, ones Southgate seems to be avoiding.

 

[13VanDerBale13]

@davidmatzdorf care explain your thoughts on Southgate ?

 

[Johnny J]

Also dropped richarleson after not scoring in a couple of games. Managers are paid to act like that, not stick by x players because he's a mate.

Best for the team/club means hard choices, ones Southgate seems to be avoiding.

Also it's a false economy. Southgate will say "Macguire hasn't let England down", which is not only debatable at best, but when he invariably does let us down, his backups won't have much experience because Southgate hasn't bloody played them.

 

[McFlash]

Henderson should never wear an England shirt again, let alone start FFS.

When you could play Rice, Bellingham and Madders as a midfield three, why the utter fuck would you pick Jordan fucking Henderson?!

Southgate's a ****, no two ways about it.

 

[Thenewcat]

I do wonder if Southgate is too close to the players. If Maguire is having a hard time, maybe being dropped by England would make it even worse?

Trying to understand why he is picked tbh.

Well the other CBs on the squad have 8 caps between them so perhaps more understandable than usual. Henderson on the other hand is indefensible. I’d play maddison as one of the midfield 3 and rashford off the left

 

[Thenewcat]

Henderson should never wear an England shirt again, let alone start FFS.

When you could play Rice, Bellingham and Madders as a midfield three, why the utter fuck would you pick Jordan fucking Henderson?!

Southgate's a ****, no two ways about it.

He even gets to watch it for Spurs - Bissouma is Rice, Bentancur is your Bellingham (and Sarr for now) and maddison. It’s such a beautifully balanced midfield

 

[davidmatzdorf]

@davidmatzdorf care explain your thoughts on Southgate ?

The players think he’s wonderful and credit him for their own development, he’s getting better results than anyone since Robson and he’s put together the best balanced midfield in years.
He just needs to cure himself of his addiction to Maguire and Henderson. In contrast to those two, he has Saka, Maddison and Bellingham fitting snugly into his system.

 

[dannyo]

Yawn. So boring watching this static shit now, compared to watching us play. Just shows you what a progressive manager can do.

 

[Tucker]

Boring boring England