* The "Kendall Lurvs Heurelho Gomes" Thread *

[Bus-Conductor]

Sorry BC, we won't agree on this I'm afraid. I did say Gomes was too irratic and would get found out before he signed with us and for the first 5 months he was, and needed to change the way he played and fast - he has even given credit to Parks saying as much.

It has nothing to do with Hansen, more my own two eyes seeing him:

* Dive over an Ashley Young shot against Villa, gifting them a goal
* Almost gift them another goal with a weak slap from a corner
* Knocking out out CB by smashing him not once, but twice
* Messing up a routine backpass and giving away a penalty against Udinese
* Gifting Arsenal 2 goals
* Selling King short with weak pass, letting in Gerrard for the chip which he was lucky hit the bar, essentially almost giving them a 2nd goal and killing the game
* Palming the ball into his own net against Fulham


These are off the top of my head, but there are more.
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We've done this before. Your list is ridiculous.
The ball going under his outstretched arm against Villa is not a howler, it's just football and happens every week several times. In that game alone he made one of the best saves that anyone made all season whgen saving the deflected shot off ledley King's arm. Look at Defoe's goal today.

Knocking out your CB is hardly a howler is it ? It's just a footballing accident where two players are trying to do there job, WTF do you want them to do stand there going
"after you"
"no after you"
after you
no I insist after you"

No-one is denying he didn't make the odd mistake, or that, just like every other keeper, and player he will continue to make the odd mistake. But to some of us it was clear that some of those mistakes are born out of his own bravery and confidence and positive attitude in dealing with danger.
And is supported by shitloads of ability.

Kendall, if I could be arsed, I would match up your list with my list of situations he prevented a goal. On average he saves 1-2 shots that Robinson (and many others) couldn't per game, he comes out and clears 5-8 set pieces that Robinson (and most keepers) sat on his line quivering over what do, that would have ended up with the opposition getting a header or shot on goal (hence us prior to Gomes having the worst set piece and long range goals aghainst in the league) on top of that over the course of the season he made probably 10 saves that 18 other keepers in the EPL would not have made.

Now add this to the mistakes that every single keeper makes week in week out including Czech & VDsar.

If we sat and watched every game in entirity the spreadsheet for Gomes would be heavily in the black.

 

[Bing]

That simply isn't true.

It is really though. He was the laughing stock of the league, costs us a lot of goals and made a fair few absolute howlers.


Much better now of course (even if I am still glad we have Cuddicini as insurance:-|).

 

[Coyboy]

The laughing stock argument eh? Who gives a fuck about who was laughing at whom? I watch football, I don't care about giggling idiots.

 

[Bing]

The laughing stock argument eh? Who gives a fuck about who was laughing at whom? I watch football, I don't care about giggling idiots.

Fair point, but that was'nt the argument.

 

[worcestersauce]

For the record I'm with Kendall on this one.

When we first went for him I was not pleased based on what I saw of him against PSV the previous season and he turned out worse than I thought. When Roy Hodgkinson gets his team training to exploit a goalkeeper's obvious weaknesses and come the match is 100% successful there can be no argument he was a liablity and how anyone can't see it is beyond me.
Not only that but it must also be clear that Harry Redknapp felt the same and thats why he brought in Tony Parks since when Gomes has improved; surely nobody would deny that either.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

It is really though. He was the laughing stock of the league, costs us a lot of goals and made a fair few absolute howlers.


Much better now of course (even if I am still glad we have Cuddicini as insurance:-|).

Anyone who couldn't see the situation for what it was is in my opinion a candidate for laughing stock.

The club sign the bast goalkeeper they have had since about 1977 and some bufoons are so busy nodding to Hanson's (the slickest idiot in the west) derisive commentary they forget to engage their own brain.

 

[gibbs131]

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/int...amedsoschildrensvillagesambassador290709.html

 

[gibbs131]

I think Gomes should be captain.

 

[Shanks]

O'Hara has been pretty rubbish for a while, but did seem to pull out a performance today. At least apparently in the first half, as I only saw the second half, which was about okay for O'Hara (but way better than the weekends!).

Kendall, has always said that about Gomes though, I remember at first I was unsure about gomes, before he signed, as I only had the two games against us as previously seeing him.

After a few games, I could see how much more he improved on the position than having Robbo. Yes a few mistakes, not half as many that have been listed are all his fault though, but he is a bloody quality goalkeeper.

 

[Coyboy]

Nice thread title edit.

 

[nicdic]

I love Heurelho Gomes, Heurelho Gomes loves me.

 

[Goldman]

I love Heurelho Gomes, Heurelho Gomes loves me.

This. :dance:

 

[gibbs131]

O'Hara has been pretty rubbish for a while, but did seem to pull out a performance today. At least apparently in the first half, as I only saw the second half, which was about okay for O'Hara (but way better than the weekends!).
/quote]

I think O'Hara was stung into a good performance after being humiliated at Wembley.

That is what frustrates me about Spurs players in general. They need a fire lit under their arses. They are incapable of motivating themselves for each and every game.

 

[Rackybear]

Gomes is class.

He may have been a bit erratic at the beggining of the season, but all you need to see is that match against Chelsea at the bridge to realise he is a world class goalkeeper.

Having 2 points from 8 games obviously wasnt doing much for his confidence. He was a legend at PSV and will be one at WHL. He broke / set so many records as well, and surprise surprise, first season at the lane and we have our best defensive record ever.

Co-incedence? Not imo. The amount of times he saved us more then makes up for his few cock ups at the beggining. He's the best goalkeeper we have had in ages, and long may he stay at WHL.

 

[rsmith]

Maybe I was watching a different set of games to Kendell, but I seem to recall Gomes being pretty good for our first 4 or 5 games. He then suffered a 6 game dip (which seemed to coincide with some sort of rib injury) and then he got it back together again

 

[Greavesy]

I don't really follow the politics of this site, but seems to me that it might be worth Kendall just admitting he over-reacted to a poor run of results / errors by Gomes by making a snap judgement that Gomes was sh#te and wouldn't make it in the EPL, which has now proven to be incorrect.

I'll butt out and go back to lurking now

 

[Reids-Belly]

I've got to agree with BC and Coyboy on this one. He may have made some mistakes, but even when he did he was still making world class saves in the same games. He was a world class keeper when he joined and that hasn't changed :grin:

 

[worcestersauce]

Nice thread title edit.

I agree, I really do like the guy, you can't help it, not that that has anythig to do with his ability.

I don't really follow the politics of this site, but seems to me that it might be worth Kendall just admitting he over-reacted to a poor run of results / errors by Gomes by making a snap judgement that Gomes was sh#te and wouldn't make it in the EPL, which has now proven to be incorrect.

I'll butt out and go back to lurking now

It might be, if it were true but I don't believe it is.

I've got to agree with BC and Coyboy on this one. He may have made some mistakes, but even when he did he was still making world class saves in the same games. He was a world class keeper when he joined and that hasn't changed :grin:

He certainly did make mistakes, boy did he make mistakes.
World class?


Come on guys I respect peoples support for one of our players but he was frightening and our defence were scared shitless every game knowing he was behind them incapable of catching a ball and unable to punch clear never mind the chaos when he took a back pass, I used to hide my eyes.
Now we know these still aren't his strong points and he still can't kick very well and still doesn't take command in his box but he has worked on them with Tony Parks bringing about major improvements, we know that he is a great shot stopper and his throw outs are excellent so hopefully it's all plain sailing from now on.
I genuinely hope so and I really do like the guy so I honestly hope he is up to snuff this season.

 

[Reids-Belly]

He certainly did make mistakes, boy did he make mistakes.
World class?


Come on guys I respect peoples support for one of our players but he was frightening and our defence were scared shitless every game knowing he was behind them incapable of catching a ball and unable to punch clear never mind the chaos when he took a back pass, I used to hide my eyes.
Now we know these still aren't his strong points and he still can't kick very well and still doesn't take command in his box but he has worked on them with Tony Parks bringing about major improvements, we know that he is a great shot stopper and his throw outs are excellent so hopefully it's all plain sailing from now on.
I genuinely hope so and I really do like the guy so I honestly hope he is up to snuff this season.

As i said, i'm not denying he made some shocking mistakes, but in the same games he made mistakes, he was still making top-class saves. Thats the point i'm trying to make. Even when he was going through his bad period, he was still saving our arses with some impressive saves. :grin:

 

[jonnyp]

That simply isn't true.

It is true. Gomes before Parks came in was an absolute disaster, and almost a downgrade on Robinson. Since Redknapp and Parks came in though he's steadily got better and looked more confident and assured.

If it's purely down to Parks is of course just speculation, it could be down to a number of reasons. I don't really care what those are, as long as he now seems to have been an upgrade on Robinson (if he can sustain his good form for the whole of the season ahead).