The Luis Suarez Saga: It's official. He's gone.

[Mr Pink]

That's because FIFA revoked all accreditation he had for the tournament.

They will appeal the length of the ban but I think will accept that it was violent conduct, which in itself carries a 3 match ban. They won't get past the 1/4 finals anyway, so no point in them arguing that he should be available for Colombia game.

I also think they will succeed in the appeal.
FIFA set a suspension that is long, and as such it's long enough that they can maybe halve it and still have "some" impact.
The pissy side is that I think the suspension will drop to 2 months instead of 4, which means he will only miss opening week of season.
FIFA have set a precident by implementing 9 games/4 months, but I think that will turn into a "this is what will happen if you do it again" when they reduce it.

I can't see that happening.

If they reduce it by half then there is no punishment really as there's no competitive football for 8 weeks now. He was always going to miss next game and they weren't a team that was going to progress much further in this tournament.

In fact, I'd say that would be an absolutely crazy decision on FIFA's part. In effect you'd practically be removing the punishment all together.

At best they might shave a month off it IMO but even then I still think their appeal will fail as I think it will be viewed as lacking in understanding that the fact this guy has done it three times.

 

[Shadydan]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28053513

Uruguay striker Luis Suarez has lost one of his financial backers after he was banned for biting Italy defender Giorgio Chiellini.

Online gambling firm 888poker said it had "decided to terminate its relationship" with "immediate effect".

Pete Tong

 

[Gassin's finest]

I genuinely felt some sympathy for him when I saw the image of him on the floor, clutching his teeth in apparent pain. He looked like a person who genuinely can't control these flashes of anger, which are so intense it drives him to baffling moments of violence, and he can't understand why. It's as though he reaches a point where he loses himself and just lashes out in animalistic rage.

As someone who's had to address anger management issues, I can say that until he admits to himself that he has a problem, and needs some help, he won't be able to stop himself. Entirely separate from any footballing issues, this shit can ruin your life.

 

[Cavehillspur]

His granny said he's been treated like a dog lol. Yep, Gnasher springs to mind...

 

[nidge]

I genuinely felt some sympathy for him when I saw the image of him on the floor, clutching his teeth in apparent pain. He looked like a person who genuinely can't control these flashes of anger, which are so intense it drives him to baffling moments of violence, and he can't understand why. It's as though he reaches a point where he loses himself and just lashes out in animalistic rage.

As someone who's had to address anger management issues, I can say that until he admits to himself that he has a problem, and needs some help, he won't be able to stop himself. Entirely separate from any footballing issues, this shit can ruin your life.

And until he can control himself to not act out violently towards others on the field of play he shouldn't be able to be back on the a football pitch.

 

[Gassin's finest]

His granny said he's been treated like a dog lol. Yep, Gnasher springs to mind...

Well if he acts like a dog... then he'd have been put down to be fair.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

If he keeps on doing it and lets face it, he shows no sign of letting up, do we think players would start to refuse to play against him for fear of being next on the menu?

Personally I think not, but it'd certainly set the cat amongst the pigeons wouldn't it?

 

[Gassin's finest]

And until he can control himself to not act out violently towards others on the field of play he shouldn't be able to be back on the a football pitch.

IMO too, no he shouldn't. The punishment doesn't help him at all. All it does is reinforce his stance of being a victim, backed up by his recent statements about the english media and proving them wrong. He is actually of the opinion that he has been wronged, which isn't helped by all and sundry in Uruguay and Merseyside making excuses for him.

Part of the sentence should have included mandatory therapy to help him. Because if he doesn't get it then all that happens is he serves his ban, comes back to playing football, and in 12 months time he does it or something similar again... rinse and repeat.

But then football as an institution tends to take little responsibility for the impact that playing at it's highest level can have on these young impressionable lads. Case in point; Adrian Mutu's cocaine addiction. Chelsea just sacked him and told him to fuck off. No attempt to help him rehabilitate, no support, no responsibility.

 

[nidge]

IMO too, no he shouldn't. The punishment doesn't help him at all. All it does is reinforce his stance of being a victim, backed up by his recent statements about the english media and proving them wrong. He is actually of the opinion that he has been wronged, which isn't helped by all and sundry in Uruguay and Merseyside making excuses for him.

Part of the sentence should have included mandatory therapy to help him. Because if he doesn't get it then all that happens is he serves his ban, comes back to playing football, and in 12 months time he does it or something similar again... rinse and repeat.

But then football as an institution tends to take little responsibility for the impact that playing at it's highest level can have on these young impressionable lads. Case in point; Adrian Mutu's cocaine addiction. Chelsea just sacked him and told him to fuck off. No attempt to help him rehabilitate, no support, no responsibility.

The only problem is that for Suarez to get help and change he needs to be able to recognise and take responsibility for his actions and and then choose to get help but that will never happen while Uruguay and his family feed his victim mentality.

As for Mutu, didn't Chelsea go even further and sued him for the cost of his fee and wage whilst under contract?

Ahh here's the article about it http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2010/jun/14/adrian-mutu-chelsea

 

[stokesy]

The only problem is that for Suarez to get help and change he needs to be able to recognise and take responsibility for his actions and and then choose to get help but that will never happen while Uruguay and his family feed his victim mentality.

As for Mutu, didn't Chelsea go even further and sued him for the cost of his fee and wage whilst under contract?

Ahh here's the article about it http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2010/jun/14/adrian-mutu-chelsea

Quite right too. Do you think if they had been in breach of contract he wouldn't have sued them.

People need to take responsibility for their own actions. Sure Chelsea could have offered to help him with re-rehabilitation and for all we know maybe they did but at the end of the day it's his problem he should sort it out.

Far too much blaming other people and lack of personal responsibility nowadays.

 

[E17yid]

Caught up with 2 more LFC fans at work today and both say they want him gone, they've had enough. I asked them: "Would you be willing to take a big hit, transfer fee wise?" to which one of them replied: "I'd take a straight swap with Barca for Sanchez" The other said they shouldn't sell for less than £60m

The ones I've met continue to be reasonable, to be fair.

 

[WalkerboyUK]

The only problem is that for Suarez to get help and change he needs to be able to recognise and take responsibility for his actions and and then choose to get help but that will never happen while Uruguay and his family feed his victim mentality.

As for Mutu, didn't Chelsea go even further and sued him for the cost of his fee and wage whilst under contract?

Ahh here's the article about it http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2010/jun/14/adrian-mutu-chelsea

I mentioned the Mutu case a few pages back...

Chelsea sacked him for breach of contract. At the end of his ban he resumed his career in Italy. Chelsea then successfully sued him for loss of income, but Livorno & Juventus had to cough up some of the money as an equivalent to the transfer fee that would have been paid.

Liverpool won't sack Suarez, so not likely to sue....

 

[CosmicHotspur]

His main sponsor, Bet888, have dropped him. That will bite into his income.

 

[Mr Pink]

The only problem is that for Suarez to get help and change he needs to be able to recognise and take responsibility for his actions and and then choose to get help but that will never happen while Uruguay and his family feed his victim mentality.

As for Mutu, didn't Chelsea go even further and sued him for the cost of his fee and wage whilst under contract?

Ahh here's the article about it http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2010/jun/14/adrian-mutu-chelsea

That's why his appeal will fail IMO.

If he was capable of showing some understanding and genuine remorse they might have a chance with an appeal. But the attitude shown is shocking.

 

[Gassin's finest]

The only problem is that for Suarez to get help and change he needs to be able to recognise and take responsibility for his actions and and then choose to get help but that will never happen while Uruguay and his family feed his victim mentality.

As for Mutu, didn't Chelsea go even further and sued him for the cost of his fee and wage whilst under contract?

Ahh here's the article about it http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2010/jun/14/adrian-mutu-chelsea

TBH I find that quite ****y by Chelsea.

Agree with Suarez being the one who has to recognise that there's a problem.

 

[Donki]

I genuinely felt some sympathy for him when I saw the image of him on the floor, clutching his teeth in apparent pain. He looked like a person who genuinely can't control these flashes of anger, which are so intense it drives him to baffling moments of violence, and he can't understand why. It's as though he reaches a point where he loses himself and just lashes out in animalistic rage.

As someone who's had to address anger management issues, I can say that until he admits to himself that he has a problem, and needs some help, he won't be able to stop himself. Entirely separate from any footballing issues, this shit can ruin your life.

I just thought that was part of his antics to make it look like he ran into Chellini's shoulder....... what a tit he is lol. Its liek with any problem drink, drugs, gambling, unless he sees the problem himself and wants to change her won't.

 

[$hoguN]

I genuinely felt some sympathy for him when I saw the image of him on the floor, clutching his teeth in apparent pain. He looked like a person who genuinely can't control these flashes of anger, which are so intense it drives him to baffling moments of violence, and he can't understand why. It's as though he reaches a point where he loses himself and just lashes out in animalistic rage.

As someone who's had to address anger management issues, I can say that until he admits to himself that he has a problem, and needs some help, he won't be able to stop himself. Entirely separate from any footballing issues, this shit can ruin your life.

For me, him doing that made the whole incident a 100 times worse as it showed him for what he is, an absolute vile human being, who rather than facing punishment for his cowardly antics instead tries to make himself look like the victim.

 

[Coyboy]

In that clip of him making awful challenges and lashing out, he immediately either tries to apologise or feigns injury. The one with Kompany is funny though. I am no expert but it’s like there is a flash of anger that takes over him and then he immediately realises what he has done. Neither apologising much less trying to invert the blame excuses it and trying to brush it off is cowardly, but it may go someway to explaining his problem.

The most nauseating thing I find about all of this is some Liverpool fans (including a couple of good friends) and the entire country of Uruguay trying to make out it’s all one conspiracy and that people in Britain are ‘obsessed’ with Suarez. Just fingers in your ears, desperate denial tactics.

 

[WalkerboyUK]

Chiellini has said that he considers the suspension to be excessive.

That's extra ammo for Uruguay FA to go into the appeal with!

 

[AussieSpurMan]

He can rot in hell as far as I'm concerned. Can't stand the man.