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The man behind the grassy knoll

chinaman

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Does Poch really think he has final say on transfers? He is damned naive if he thinks so.
 

jezz

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Your talking complete bollocks rednapp signed Parker, gallas, Kaboul, crouch, Defoe , palacios, all solid signings and Saha and Nielsen were not his choices (according to him)
Solid signings agreed and they played there part.
But Modric Bale VDV were the players who took us to another level.
Harry did the same at QPR solid signings and that hasn't worked so well.
He missed the boat with Suarez.
 

Syn_13

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Jul 17, 2008
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I have never understood why levy gets so much blame/hate.

I'm not a staunch Levy hater, but I can see why. He's gotten himself more involved in transfers than any chairman ever has a right to, plus he's hired a fair few duds in his tenure. That's down to him. As I said, not a staunch hater, but he does get on my nerves at times. He's played a major part in helping us step up to the next level as a club, but has also played a major part in preventing us to get any further.
 

Flashspur

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You guys in the neg on this thread should have been around before ENIC - now those were dark fricken days. Its hard to shine a :poop: and find a lot that is redeemable from the period.

Its taken awhile to get here but its been incremental progress and not backsliding like a lot of the Scholar and even Sugar eras were infamous for. OK, i may be a BSODL but fuck it, I can live with that! :blackeye:
 

Strikeb4ck

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I think much of Levy's finest work is what has been done behind the scenes and will come into play in the years down the road...rebuilding, stabilizing, and continuously improving the club's finances to all time profits...building a state of the art training center that is so good it is a selling point for potential transfers...establishing Spurs as one of, if not the, premier destination for 8-14 yr old British footballing talent...and of course down the road the biggest leap of all, the new stadium.

The reversal from what we had prior to ENIC is stunning.

For me they have done a wonderful job and Levy has been an unheralded success as far as Prem chairmen are concerned.

The small worry is that unless they invest a little more into the first team squad, they might be reaching their limits on how much they can improve what the more short term thinking Spurs fans can see - the XI that step out onto WHL.
 

Gilzeanking

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You guys in the neg on this thread should have been around before ENIC - now those were dark fricken days. Its hard to shine a :poop: and find a lot that is redeemable from the period.

:blackeye:

I'm not a hater , as explained above....BUT I was around in the dark days you mention . I'm not sure its pertinent to compare now with those days .

We were probably around the 6th biggest/richest or even better in the Prem then. Surely the tenths and eighths and worse Prem positions were all the aberrant times . Times when being so badly run , we did waaay worse than we should have .

We see this comparison made by oldies and I don't think its so relevant myself these days . Well done to Levy/ENIC for getting us roughly where we should be given our size of course ...but , it'd be nice to punch above our weight tho eh .
 

jurgen

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You guys in the neg on this thread should have been around before ENIC - now those were dark fricken days. Its hard to shine a :poop: and find a lot that is redeemable from the period.

Its taken awhile to get here but its been incremental progress and not backsliding like a lot of the Scholar and even Sugar eras were infamous for. OK, i may be a BSODL but fuck it, I can live with that! :blackeye:

Get where? Clearly we've gone back a level since the Redknapp days. At the moment, we are backsliding, even if its relative and nobody would want to go back to being as sh@t as we were under Sugar.

As a centre ground swing voter on the issue, we can call Levy on the fact he publically said the stadium wouldn't affect our spending yet it clearly has (I hope it is the stadium causing it at any rate) at the same time appreciating we do need a new stadium. It is also fine and reasonable for fans to argue we are where we are as 6th biggest club - I don't think Levy sees it the same way, Poch has had to trot out the CL challenge next year bollocks again. Sparkly training ground great, gives our squad a great resource, but then filling it up with generic low budget supermarket own brand versions of the players the coach wants? :(

It was funny the very first reply invoked Scholar, Lynton Crosby would be in awe at that level of instant reflex scaremongering...
 

Borks

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Buying Saha and Nelson when we were 3rd is clearly not the reason we finished 4th. We finished 4th because Redknapp didn't rotate and the core players were fucked.. Oh and he brought on Scott Parker to keep hold of a point away at Villa...
 

MarkyP

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Could be worse, could have Mike Ashley in charge..

Fans of PL clubs are no longer the main source of income or revenue generators. So the owners probably don't actually care that much what we "think" of them.

Owners of a club will always want a good relationship with its fans ideally.... but if doesn't have that.. I don't honestly think they give a fuck. Newcastle is case in point. Hull? West Ham to a lesser extent. I would hazard a guess to say that the majority of Man Utd fans don't like the Glazers...

Levy will not change. Regardless of how much people kick off. He does things his way. As is his right as the owner. Does he meddle too much? Possibly. But we shall never know the true extent of it. At the end of the day, he isn't looking to sabotage the club or the team, he wants success as much as we fans all do.
 

Sp3akerboxxx

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Well done.
Its been coming for a while but you finally made my ignore list.
You make out like we were lucky to get top 4 twice with Harry in charge and he held us back.
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Frozen_Waffles

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Why does everyone bring up Saha and Nelson? What do they have to do with anything! They both were good players that we got for next to nothing, they did not do great for us but we lost nothing, we got Gallas and Naybet in similar circumstances and they did well. Some work some don't.

The problem comes when you start throwing 28m on a player untested in the prem who cannot speak English.
 

Chinaspur

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Wait. What?

I'm very sleep deprived so can someone explain the grassy knoll reference (I know about the assasination of JFK just can't make the link)?
 

225

Living in hope, existing in disappointment
Dec 15, 2014
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Wait. What?

I'm very sleep deprived so can someone explain the grassy knoll reference (I know about the assasination of JFK just can't make the link)?

They're making the inference that Levy is an unseen threat that is killing the club.

With the big-ass training ground, debt-free finances and debt free land purchases for the new stadium.

What a bastard.



I've never understood why he gets blamed for "getting too involved" but still takes the rap for player performances, team line ups, tactics and - more importantly - a manager who for all that was ITK'd/reported at the time (correct me if I'm misinformed) Joe Lewis told him to hire.
 
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