The Managerial Merry-go-round

[Danny1]

Zaha, Benteke and Sakho would walk into most teams outside the top 6 tbf. The rest of the team is Sunderland-like relegation material.

Possibly so, however I think they are all players who think they would walk into the Top 6 but are yet to really prove that they are capable. They are a bit like the players we had for a while, good players who think they are great.

I think in the Premier League, more than any other league, its difficult to prove week in, week out that you are a top player, and there is a reason these 3 are at Palace and not the top clubs, baring in mind all 3 of them have been at the top and have been surplus to requirements.

 

[Chris Finch]

Parish being involved in first team matters? No wonder it hasn't worked

 

[brendanb50]

Parish being involved in first team matters? No wonder it hasn't worked

Exactly and deviating from the 'planned' team formation and struggles to adapt to a new style - i'm sorry but was some of that not expected? The whole purpose of the appointment was a new style of play surely and perhaps line-ups go out of the window when you don't do any business all summer and can't get some additions to the squad.

I get the impression FDB wasn't too engaged either judging by the news but as a football man i think it's more likely to be the board issues and not the football on the pitch which caused it.

 

[goughie1966]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41219627

Pretty disgusting really especially after their performance at Burnley where they battered them and were unlucky not to get anything from the game.

And Palace are replacing him with Hodgson

I'd like to see them go down now with that idiot in charge.

 

[Mr.D]

The world has gone mad.

 

[Gb160]

 

[ziggy]

Really gave him time didn't they....................madness

 

[dirtyh]

Any team that consciously makes the decision to appoint useless negative boring one dimensional owl man should be instantly relegated imo. May as well get Gary fucking megson.

 

[1882andallthat]

It's an absolute joke !!! I wonder if Parish will speak out publically and take responsibility for this debacle...... I doubt it, a typical knee jerk buck passing Chairman, whose default position is to always blame the manager when the manager hasn't been given the tools and time to do the job properly.

 

[Tucker]

When you hear that the chairman wants to be involved in the first team, you know the shit is going to hit the fan again and again. It should be hilarious watching that gump, Hodgson flail around trying to keep them up.

 

[Pellshek]

https://twitter.com/bbcsport_david/status/907249347800248320

There are shades of Spurs' problems with AVB in Parish's spin here. From the outside, de Boer looks a sober football man, but once you see him up close, he turns out to be aloof around the place, immature in dealing with relationships, lacking the political guile to navigate egos, and has a certain detachment from throwing himself fully into the joint enterprise. Sounds familiar.

All of that would certainly explain the oddly early decision to sack him. Once bad mood music is set early doors and key relationships are compromised, it's hard to fix it.

From de Boer's side, if Parish had anything to do with first team matters, de Boer has every right to be pissed off about it. And certainly that thing about de Boer's contract negotiations involving discussion of formations is very, very weird.

I love the saying: "If you're going to panic, panic early." As such, I might just give benefit of doubt to Palace and Parish, but it doesn't absolve them of a failure of due diligence pre-appointment, & any subsequent meddling.

 

[thinktank]

Cray cray. Should have at least given him the SCBC game at least.

You could see he was getting somewhere with the team and it was slowly taking shape and would have clicked. The players were playing for him and buying into his methods.

Pyjama boy Parish shat his pants.

If you bring in someone like De Boer to a team like palace, you simply have to give him time because he plays a very specific way and if you aren't gonna give him proper quality players it will take him more time to get limited players working well in his system and the margin for 'error' increases greatly.

In other words, Parish is an idiot.

 

[etchedchaos]

There are shades of Spurs' problems with AVB in Parish's spin here. From the outside, de Boer looks a sober football man, but once you see him up close, he turns out to be aloof around the place, immature in dealing with relationships, lacking the political guile to navigate egos, and has a certain detachment from throwing himself fully into the joint enterprise. Sounds familiar.

All of that would certainly explain the oddly early decision to sack him. Once bad mood music is set early doors and key relationships are compromised, it's hard to fix it.

From de Boer's side, if Parish had anything to do with first team matters, de Boer has every right to be pissed off about it. And certainly that thing about de Boer's contract negotiations involving discussion of formations is very, very weird.

I love the saying: "If you're going to panic, panic early." As such, I might just give benefit of doubt to Palace and Parish, but it doesn't absolve them of a failure of due diligence pre-appointment, & any subsequent meddling.

You'd give the benefit of the doubt to a chairman who meddles in first team affairs and wouldn't make a purchase for a manager expected to change the playing style until the end of the window?

 

[Bus-Conductor]

He was sacked after 3 months of being in charge of Inter Milan, maybe he's just a fraud

He took over Inter a couple weeks before the season started, inter were a joke and they spent the whole season stumbling from game to game and changed manager again in the summer.

 

[danielneeds]

He took over Inter a couple weeks before the season started, inter were a joke and they spent the whole season stumbling from game to game and changed manager again in the summer.

I don't really believe in coincidences like that in football. At the very least De Boer has shown that he's got poor judgement when deciding the people he's going to work for. At most he's still not shown any ability to take his ideas outside of his Ajax comfort blanket, however unfortunate he's been.

Anyhow, at least with Woy coming in the chances of Poch getting his shiny Zaha next summer have increased many fold.

 

[Shadydan]

Cray cray. Should have at least given him the SCBC game at least.

You could see he was getting somewhere with the team and it was slowly taking shape and would have clicked. The players were playing for him and buying into his methods.

Pyjama boy Parish shat his pants.

If you bring in someone like De Boer to a team like palace, you simply have to give him time because he plays a very specific way and if you aren't gonna give him proper quality players it will take him more time to get limited players working well in his system and the margin for 'error' increases greatly.

In other words, Parish is an idiot.

Their next 4 fixtures are Southampton, Man Utd, Man City and then Chelsea so yo'd expect them to get max 3 points...wouldn't be at all surprised that they looked at it and realised that the team need a some fresh impetus going into those matches because if you go into those matches and come out getting spanked then you're in some serious trouble and morale is low. I reckon they've probably sacked him based on that as they didn't have the confidence that he could get them out of a situation and could be struggling down the bottom off the table.

 

[tototoner]

So all agreed Palace are now going down, I wonder who the other 2 will be

 

[thinktank]

Their next 4 fixtures are Southampton, Man Utd, Man City and then Chelsea so yo'd expect them to get max 3 points...wouldn't be at all surprised that they looked at it and realised that the team need a some fresh impetus going into those matches because if you go into those matches and come out getting spanked then you're in some serious trouble and morale is low. I reckon they've probably sacked him based on that as they didn't have the confidence that he could get them out of a situation and could be struggling down the bottom off the table.

They should stick with De Boer. They absolutely must win their next game though or the Boss' hand might be forced as they have the manchesters after that.

Saying that, I don't think another new manager is going to make much difference irt effort. The effort is there, they just haven't got the quality to execute. De Boer is on his way to getting the best out of what they got by the looks of it.

Tricky situation.

Figured that in already. Should have given him SCBC. A new manager isn't gonna come in and magically spur them on to bash the manchesters and chelsea with the limited players they have.

Think it's a bad decision.

De Boer would have kept them up and instilled a philosophy that could have been the root of something solid there for many years.

Now they are back at square one looking at woy to come in and wobble awound a bit.

 

[Pellshek]

You'd give the benefit of the doubt to a chairman who meddles in first team affairs and wouldn't make a purchase for a manager expected to change the playing style until the end of the window?

It's not benefit of the doubt so much as balance of probabilities. On balance, Palace probably realised they'd made a mistake with the appointment and bailed early. Doesn't mean they didn't make mistakes, and doesn't mean de Boer doesn't have legitimate gripes.

 

[Led's Zeppelin]

It's not benefit of the doubt so much as balance of probabilities. On balance, Palace probably realised they'd made a mistake with the appointment and bailed early. Doesn't mean they didn't make mistakes, and doesn't mean de Boer doesn't have legitimate gripes.

They bottled their own decision to employ a different kind of manager and give him the time to make some necessary and radical changes.

if ever anyone ever calls Spurs "legends", just point to this cowardly decision, because losing a game of football at an important stage of the season is absolutely nothing compared with this total lack of courage and confidence in a decision they voluntarily took themselves. No one forced it on them. They scared themselves into a stupid, craven decision. I have no respect for them at all over this.