The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[SpursDave88]

People here blaming squad depth, in particular focusing on LB and CB. Liverpool beat us comfortably with Midfielders playing at CB and LB, it's a ridiculous excuse. We lost because Poch did not set up the players he had at his disposal to beat the players they had at their disposal. Rather, he set up so that it would be as easy as possible for Liverpool to use their strength against us. The arguments about squad depth here are nonsense. We lost because the manager dropped a clanger. We should have gone there looking to defend deep and be compact for the initial periods of the game seeking to squeeze up if we had control of the ball, instead we played right into their hands, reminiscent of Man City's walloping at Leicester earlier in the season and our own performance away at Monaco.

 

[nicdic]

Sure not equally but not as far off the pace and ability as our backups seem to be

Chelsea would deal worse with injuries than we have. So would every other club in the league I think.

 

[wooderz]

Chelsea would deal worse with injuries than we have. So would every other club in the league I think.

Not sure I agree there but I guess we could never find out!

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

Chelsea would deal worse with injuries than we have. So would every other club in the league I think.

The amount of injuries we have had this season is staggering, compared to last season. The fact that we are still 2nd (top-4) in the table is a testament to the depth we do have.

Matches missed:

Lloris - 3 matches
Rose - 7
Alderweireld - 8
Kane - 5
Dembele - 8 (including suspension)
Vertonghen - 5
Lamela - 16

Think about that - joint best defense in league, based on fewest goals conceded, and our best partnership has only played 12 of 25 matches together.

 

[nicdic]

Not sure I agree there but I guess we could never find out!

If Kante missed the games Dembele has...

If Luiz/Cahill missed the games Jan/Toby have...

If Alonos missed the games Rose has...

If Costa missed the games Kane did...

At the start of the season we'd have said Lamela was our most important player behind Kane, if Hazard had missed those games?

 

[yankspurs]

The amount of injuries we have had this season is staggering, compared to last season. The fact that we are still 2nd (top-4) in the table is a testament to the depth we do have.

Matches missed:

Lloris - 3 matches
Rose - 7
Alderweireld - 8
Kane - 5
Dembele - 8 (including suspension)
Vertonghen - 5
Lamela - 16

Think about that - joint best defense in league, based on fewest goals conceded, and our best partnership has only played 12 of 25 matches together.

Meh all that says to me is we desperately need Lamela back as we do Rose and Vertonghen.

The depth, in reality, is not good enough. We need players pushing for the starting XI. Instead, we dont have anyone. Son is clearly an impact player off the bench and the only one who can be relied upon off the bench besides Winks. Sissoko is an absolute waste of £30m and complete lump on a log that Poch desperately wanted. Davies is so far behind Rose and we dont have a decent CB to deputise for Vertonghen and have to rely on Toby to play LCB as Dier cant because Pochettino is evidently done with Wimmer. Janssen is just, no. Send him to germany where he might find success. Wont be successful in English football. Sunderland even proved this with Jozy. Yet Poch buy Jozy mk 2 for just under £20m. Absolutely bafflingly stupid from Poch. £49m wasted on Poch's choices of transfers last summer.

We need 2 AM's, a striker, an LCB and a like for like deputy of Rose in the Summer. 5 signings but we'll be lucky to recoup half of the Sissoko and Janssen money from selling them 2. Maybe we'll recoup the Wimmer money. I have no clue where the rest will come from.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

I think you can sum up the effect Poch has had on this club in the last few pages: We are second in the table, on pace for our best point total ever, and people are complaining we are not good enough.

 

[Dharmabum]

There's a myriad of Pochettino threads so decided to post this article in this thread...

http://www.football.london/tottenham-hotspur-fc/news/top-sports-scientist-reveals-what-12606405

Top sports scientist reveals what it was like to work under 'exceptional' Mauricio Pochettino
James Bunce worked with the now-Spurs boss during his time at Southampton

BY ADAM JONES

• 10:19, 15 FEB 2017

A top sports scientist has revealed that Mauricio Pochettino is 'exceptional' to work with due to his amazing attention to detial.

James Bunce is currently the Director of High Performance for US Soccer - but has also worked for Southampton for seven years and for the Premier League themselves as a Head of Sports Science and Head of Elite Performance.

Writing about his time at Southampton, Bunce talks in detail about the period current Spurs boss Mauricio Pochettino was in charge of the Saints - and how "exceptional" he was.

"I was lucky to work with some very good managers, but you could quickly see that Mauricio was exceptional," Bunce told Training Ground Guru.

"His attention to detail was just immense. We were early adopters of the Sports Office system, recording, storing and sharing data. Mauricio would regularly use it, to monitor wellness scores, urine scores and GPS data.

"He’d be sat clipping, which is not the sort of thing you'd expect from a manager.

"But he also had the personal touch. A quality coach needs to use data and intuition. Mauricio built strong relationships with his players and staff.

"Luke Shaw would be in his office for a couple of hours each day. And Mauricio would involve you and listen to you. He’d be in from 7 in the morning to 9 at night – just exceptional."

 

[TaoistMonkey]

Why is exceptional written as "exceptional" as if its a load of bollocks.

Article 3/10

 

[tiger666]

Why is exceptional written as "exceptional" as if its a load of bollocks.

Article 3/10

Because it's a quote.

 

[lukespurs7]

People here blaming squad depth, in particular focusing on LB and CB. Liverpool beat us comfortably with Midfielders playing at CB and LB, it's a ridiculous excuse. We lost because Poch did not set up the players he had at his disposal to beat the players they had at their disposal. Rather, he set up so that it would be as easy as possible for Liverpool to use their strength against us. The arguments about squad depth here are nonsense. We lost because the manager dropped a clanger. We should have gone there looking to defend deep and be compact for the initial periods of the game seeking to squeeze up if we had control of the ball, instead we played right into their hands, reminiscent of Man City's walloping at Leicester earlier in the season and our own performance away at Monaco.

100% spot on.

 

[jimbo]

Why is exceptional written as "exceptional" as if its a load of bollocks.

Article 3/10

It's to do with his amazing attention to "detial".

 

[TaoistMonkey]

Because it's a quote.

Just seems weird

 

[SUIYHA]

The amount of injuries we have had this season is staggering, compared to last season. The fact that we are still 2nd (top-4) in the table is a testament to the depth we do have.

Matches missed:

Lloris - 3 matches
Rose - 7
Alderweireld - 8
Kane - 5
Dembele - 8 (including suspension)
Vertonghen - 5
Lamela - 16

Think about that - joint best defense in league, based on fewest goals conceded, and our best partnership has only played 12 of 25 matches together.

I hate these kinds of posts. We were EXCEPTIONALLY lucky last season with injuries, in all the years I've watched Spurs I can't think of a season where we've had our best players so readily available. We have been lucky that the injuries we've had have been spread across the team and haven't had to deal with a major injury crisis in one position. I remember when we had four strikers injured at once and had to start Neale Fenn at Old Trafford. That was fun.

Every team has injuries every season, especially those that play extra games in the cups. Just deal with it and stop bitching about it. Just take a look for yourself:

Arsenal: Cazorla, Mustafi, Giroud, Walcott, Perez, Welbeck, Ramsey - I think Bellerin was out for a while too.

Liverpool: Coutinho, Matip, Can, Klavan, Ings, Sturridge (as always), Mane went to the ACN.

Man Utd: Rooney, Smalling, Shaw, Darmian, Jones

Man City: Gundogan, Kompany, Sane, now Jesus looks like he's out for the season.

The only big team that hasn't had any long term layoffs that I can remember this season is Chelsea. Lucky for them I guess. And the fact that we're arguably doing even better this season given the extra injuries and also more competitive European games in the first half of the season does illustrate that we've progressed. But if you're expecting to have your first XI fit for the majority of games then you are likely to be disappointed - this is a squad game. And for the most part our backup players have been very poor this season unfortunately.

 

[Spurrific]

I hate these kinds of posts. We were EXCEPTIONALLY lucky last season with injuries, in all the years I've watched Spurs I can't think of a season where we've had our best players so readily available. We have been lucky that the injuries we've had have been spread across the team and haven't had to deal with a major injury crisis in one position. I remember when we had four strikers injured at once and had to start Neale Fenn at Old Trafford. That was fun.

Every team has injuries every season, especially those that play extra games in the cups. Just deal with it and stop bitching about it. Just take a look for yourself:

Arsenal: Cazorla, Mustafi, Giroud, Walcott, Perez, Welbeck, Ramsey - I think Bellerin was out for a while too.

Liverpool: Coutinho, Matip, Can, Klavan, Ings, Sturridge (as always), Mane went to the ACN.

Man Utd: Rooney, Smalling, Shaw, Darmian, Jones

Man City: Gundogan, Kompany, Sane, now Jesus looks like he's out for the season.

The only big team that hasn't had any long term layoffs that I can remember this season is Chelsea. Lucky for them I guess. And the fact that we're arguably doing even better this season given the extra injuries and also more competitive European games in the first half of the season does illustrate that we've progressed. But if you're expecting to have your first XI fit for the majority of games then you are likely to be disappointed - this is a squad game. And for the most part our backup players have been very poor this season unfortunately.

Where does he say that he's expecting to have our first 11 fit for the majority of games? Seems like he's basically pointing out our injuries and the difference between last season. Hardly worthy of your "hate". Your post reads like you're arguing with a point he wasn't even making?

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

I hate these kinds of posts. We were EXCEPTIONALLY lucky last season with injuries, in all the years I've watched Spurs I can't think of a season where we've had our best players so readily available. We have been lucky that the injuries we've had have been spread across the team and haven't had to deal with a major injury crisis in one position. I remember when we had four strikers injured at once and had to start Neale Fenn at Old Trafford. That was fun.

Every team has injuries every season, especially those that play extra games in the cups. Just deal with it and stop bitching about it. Just take a look for yourself:

Arsenal: Cazorla, Mustafi, Giroud, Walcott, Perez, Welbeck, Ramsey - I think Bellerin was out for a while too.

Liverpool: Coutinho, Matip, Can, Klavan, Ings, Sturridge (as always), Mane went to the ACN.

Man Utd: Rooney, Smalling, Shaw, Darmian, Jones

Man City: Gundogan, Kompany, Sane, now Jesus looks like he's out for the season.

The only big team that hasn't had any long term layoffs that I can remember this season is Chelsea. Lucky for them I guess. And the fact that we're arguably doing even better this season given the extra injuries and also more competitive European games in the first half of the season does illustrate that we've progressed. But if you're expecting to have your first XI fit for the majority of games then you are likely to be disappointed - this is a squad game. And for the most part our backup players have been very poor this season unfortunately.

You kind of proved my point - we have the same or better depth as any of the "big" squads - despite not having the same financial resources. Expecting us to have better depth than those teams is not a realistic expectation.

 

[nightgoat]

I hate these kinds of posts. We were EXCEPTIONALLY lucky last season with injuries, in all the years I've watched Spurs I can't think of a season where we've had our best players so readily available. We have been lucky that the injuries we've had have been spread across the team and haven't had to deal with a major injury crisis in one position. I remember when we had four strikers injured at once and had to start Neale Fenn at Old Trafford. That was fun.

We had more injuries last season than Arsenal, who according to the media were constantly in the midst of an injury crisis.

 

[Shadydan]

I hate these kinds of posts. We were EXCEPTIONALLY lucky last season with injuries, in all the years I've watched Spurs I can't think of a season where we've had our best players so readily available. We have been lucky that the injuries we've had have been spread across the team and haven't had to deal with a major injury crisis in one position. I remember when we had four strikers injured at once and had to start Neale Fenn at Old Trafford. That was fun.

Every team has injuries every season, especially those that play extra games in the cups. Just deal with it and stop bitching about it. Just take a look for yourself:

Arsenal: Cazorla, Mustafi, Giroud, Walcott, Perez, Welbeck, Ramsey - I think Bellerin was out for a while too.

Liverpool: Coutinho, Matip, Can, Klavan, Ings, Sturridge (as always), Mane went to the ACN.

Man Utd: Rooney, Smalling, Shaw, Darmian, Jones

Man City: Gundogan, Kompany, Sane, now Jesus looks like he's out for the season.

The only big team that hasn't had any long term layoffs that I can remember this season is Chelsea. Lucky for them I guess. And the fact that we're arguably doing even better this season given the extra injuries and also more competitive European games in the first half of the season does illustrate that we've progressed. But if you're expecting to have your first XI fit for the majority of games then you are likely to be disappointed - this is a squad game. And for the most part our backup players have been very poor this season unfortunately.

Jesus Christ, no-one is bitching that we've had injuries, it's all about perspective we've had injuries to key players this season and despite being in the weakest position compared to our rivals in terms of budgets and spending and unlike Liverpool and Chelsea having Champions League football to contend with. The fact that we are still competing at the top with teams with larger finances and bigger infrastructure tells you that Pochettino is doing an extraordinary job and I suspect that @LexingtonSpurs posted that in here to further highlight that.

 

[dudu]

I hate these kinds of posts. We were EXCEPTIONALLY lucky last season with injuries, in all the years I've watched Spurs I can't think of a season where we've had our best players so readily available. We have been lucky that the injuries we've had have been spread across the team and haven't had to deal with a major injury crisis in one position. I remember when we had four strikers injured at once and had to start Neale Fenn at Old Trafford. That was fun.

Every team has injuries every season, especially those that play extra games in the cups. Just deal with it and stop bitching about it. Just take a look for yourself:

Arsenal: Cazorla, Mustafi, Giroud, Walcott, Perez, Welbeck, Ramsey - I think Bellerin was out for a while too.

Liverpool: Coutinho, Matip, Can, Klavan, Ings, Sturridge (as always), Mane went to the ACN.

Man Utd: Rooney, Smalling, Shaw, Darmian, Jones

Man City: Gundogan, Kompany, Sane, now Jesus looks like he's out for the season.

The only big team that hasn't had any long term layoffs that I can remember this season is Chelsea. Lucky for them I guess. And the fact that we're arguably doing even better this season given the extra injuries and also more competitive European games in the first half of the season does illustrate that we've progressed. But if you're expecting to have your first XI fit for the majority of games then you are likely to be disappointed - this is a squad game. And for the most part our backup players have been very poor this season unfortunately.

Less "poor" than the backup players from 3 out of 4 of the teams you mentioned as we are above them.

 

[danielneeds]

"Luke Shaw would be in his office for a couple of hours each day.

Woah, this is a bit much, talk about getting a room... Hehe.