The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[Kiedis]

Let’s see the reaction on here should we lose to West Ham on Wednesday in a competition we have a good chance of winning. I bet there will be complaints about him.

We will have to field more or less a new starting eleven for that one, whereas West Ham can field their first team. It's a game where the stadium situation and fixture congestion has tied Pochs hands, so I'll be giving him a pass on that one.

 

[spursfan77]

The timing of these quotes is interesting too. Out on a day when they will be dissected on MNF in front of the nation. He will then he asked about them before and after the game, whatever the result. It’s calculated. I don’t think there is any coincidence they’ve come out today and not over the weekend.

 

[Ossie'sAardvark]

So 25 years ago? You’re not letting go quickly exactly

Nope, and it'll never fully go. It hurts a bit, like the love of my life doesn't love me back.

 

[archiewasking]

Will be interesting to see if the performance tonight reflects his mood. A half arsed effort and a 3-4 goal loss and the daggers will be out for Poch, Levy and the players.

Fully expecting this.

 

[HW61]

DL and the owners won’t do it though. It’s not their style and never has been. This is only going to end badly.

Completely agree. Levy is a business man who Has dropped Poch and the team in it. The Board are there to protect Levy/ENIC. They may even view Poch’s words as a breach of his duties as coach at Spurs. They’re arrogant enough to do so. I’m a season ticket holder and have been since 1978; haven’t been to a game this season. Not to make a statement, but merely because the desire has gone. My feelings clearly reflect Poch and many of the players. Once they lose that edge/belief/team spirit the effects can be dramatic.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

The timing of these quotes is interesting too. Out on a day when they will be dissected on MNF in front of the nation. He will then he asked about them before and after the game, whatever the result. It’s calculated. I don’t think there is any coincidence they’ve come out today and not over the weekend.

On the eve of a massive "home" game against the champions and with Lopetegui about to get the boot from a job he has constantly been linked. This was a deliberately timed move from him and one he knows speaks volumes. Poch wants to see immediate action from Levy and I'm sure Poch will continue to be more outspoken about his discontent if Levy continues to procrastinate on transfers.

 

[Mr Pink]

I was astonished that we didn't go for it more in the summer, if ever there was a time to get behind a manager, who wholeheartedly deserved it, it was then. Inexplicable.

Pochettino is just right to apply some public pressure. I perceive it as encouraging, giving Levy another chance, attempting to align everything back together again.

What really disappoints me though is that we shouldn't be in this position of disagreement.

I just find it baffling that he hasn't been given what he wants, we're transformed under him and he represents the Club so well.

 

[alfie103]

It's great Pochettino wants to compete for titles and I want Levy to back him as he has done a wonderful job but frankly we need win a trophy at least and every time we play a big knockout game, we seem to lose our nerve in those games. This team is definitely good enough to win a FA Cup or League Cup.

 

[Gassin's finest]

So basically, the stadium is a ballache, it's sucking up all our money, and we'd better start spending like the elite clubs once we get there. In the meantime there's a fuckton of other annoying shite going on, and he's right browned off about it.

He's a proper spurs fan then.

 

[Rout-Ledge]

Maybe Levy will listen this time. It’s easy to forget just how much he betrayed the trust of the manager in the summer. Who could begrudge Poch a move now after what happened in that window?

It’s last chance saloon if we want to keep him, at best.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Maybe Levy will listen this time

 

[rabbikeane]

What do you want Levy to do if there just aren't any money there though? Many people take it for given that we're just going to start throwing money like the biggest and most financially doped clubs out there. When that's not our financial situation, especially with stadium cost rising and no name sponsor in place yet.

Reckon the real issue that could be done better last summer and going forward is focus on transfer dealings. We have no DoF and I bet Levy spent most of his time and focus on the stadium. We need to sell players, and that is a full time job in transfer windows.

 

[thebenjamin]

Last summer was the one. We all knew it. The time when we found out what Enic were really in it for. And it was one long slow motion car crash that will eventually result in everything we had spent so long building up, being destroyed.

 

[Spurs 1961]

Levy has shown over time a long term strategy for ENIC in which managers, like payers, can come and go but he will continue with his plans. He is little different to Abramovic in his viw of the disposability of managers, and I have said this in the past. Levy like Poch does not take kindly to people who break ranks and whatever we think is not going to change what Levy does. Will he back Poch or just see him as someone who has helped us move a few rungs up the ladder but not able to get us to the top? I really hope Poch stays but who knows with Levy

 

[mpickard2087]

Poch can whine away, maybe he does deserve a bit more quality to work with, but the fact is that this is now his 5th season in charge. If he hasn't got a full squad moulded in his image and his principles of play then that's his own fault really.

Him and his coaching staff should be able to identify the right characteristics for those 6-8 wider squad players that are needed. If you cant buy further quality then they should at least be damn good at pressing and providing high energy, aggression and intensity, and mean you're confident that whoever is selected will be extremely competitive and take it to the opposition and so you're not scared to spell them in for more established players. Instead we've gone through, and still have, trundlers like Llorente, Janssen, Sissoko, Ben Davies, the N'randoms, continuing with the sticking plaster midfield of Dier/Dembele, and I could go on..... the only one who fits the bill really in this aspect, and demonstrably has a bit of fire in his belly, is Lamela.

So yes, it would be nice for the manager to have extra quality to work with. But when the players you have okayed are quite often failing on the base characteristics then he has to share some blame for any lack of depth.

 

[pablo73]

Poch can whine away, maybe he does deserve a bit more quality to work with, but the fact is that this is now his 5th season in charge. If he hasn't got a full squad moulded in his image and his principles of play then that's his own fault really.

Him and his coaching staff should be able to identify the right characteristics for those 6-8 wider squad players that are needed. If you cant buy further quality then they should at least be damn good at pressing and providing high energy, aggression and intensity, and mean you're confident that whoever is selected will be extremely competitive and take it to the opposition and so you're not scared to spell them in for more established players. Instead we've gone through, and still have, trundlers like Llorente, Janssen, Sissoko, Ben Davies, the N'randoms, continuing with the sticking plaster midfield of Dier/Dembele, and I could go on..... the only one who fits the bill really in this aspect, and demonstrably has a bit of fire in his belly, is Lamela.

So yes, it would be nice for the manager to have extra quality to work with. But when the players you have okayed are quite often failing on the base characteristics then he has to share some blame for any lack of depth.

The thing is that by all accounts most of the players you've mentioned were cheaper alternatives to his preferred targets which is has Levy's M.O all over it, he's been doing that to managers long before Poch came along

 

[mpickard2087]

The thing is that by all accounts most of the players you've mentioned were cheaper alternatives to his preferred targets which is has Levy's M.O all over it, he's been doing that to managers long before Poch came along

Still no excuse in my opinion. Even if he is stuck with cheaper alternatives, they should at least be ones who offer as a basic aggression, intensity, high energy, and can press. Otherwise he should have passed (as happened this summer.....).

It's up to the coach to ok players who fit his principles. Poch should do quality control better, and either him and his staff find the players themselves or he gets in someone(s) he trusts as an analyst/scout to identify the correct players that he can then run the rule over. But at the end of the day, he cant absolve himself of all responsibility.

 

[Matthew]

First bit of straight up honesty coming out of the club since the summer. It’s refreshing tbh. I would have been more concerned if Poch was content after this summers shitshow.

Up to DL now, and if not, it’s Eddie Howe’s blue and white army.

IF and its a big if poch walked, eddie howe would be my first choice also.

 

[GutBucket]

Still no excuse in my opinion. Even if he is stuck with cheaper alternatives, they should at least be ones who offer as a basic aggression, intensity, high energy, and can press. Otherwise he should have passed (as happened this summer.....).

It's up to the coach to ok players who fit his principles. Poch should do quality control better, and either him and his staff find the players themselves or he gets in someone(s) he trusts as an analyst/scout to identify the correct players that he can then run the rule over. But at the end of the day, he cant absolve himself of all responsibility.

Were Walker and Rose known for pressing before Pochettino? Or Eriksen? Or Kane? Pochettino will get who he can get and try to mold them into players who fit his system, I'm sure he would love to have Vidal, Kante, Kimmich etc but this club usually means plan B or C. Even Eriksen was just a plan B after the whole Willian fiasco. He wanted Wanyama and got him who is perfect for the system (when healthy). He wanted Schneiderlin and didn't get him or anyone like him, what quality control options were there? What if Levy didn't want to spend money on Toby, there was nobody else close in quality to him and Pochettino would have to settle for worse quality and hope he can improve that player. He can't absolve himself of all responsibility and he doesn't have to and he is not trying to do that.

 

[thebenjamin]

Poch can whine away, maybe he does deserve a bit more quality to work with, but the fact is that this is now his 5th season in charge. If he hasn't got a full squad moulded in his image and his principles of play then that's his own fault really.

Him and his coaching staff should be able to identify the right characteristics for those 6-8 wider squad players that are needed. If you cant buy further quality then they should at least be damn good at pressing and providing high energy, aggression and intensity, and mean you're confident that whoever is selected will be extremely competitive and take it to the opposition and so you're not scared to spell them in for more established players. Instead we've gone through, and still have, trundlers like Llorente, Janssen, Sissoko, Ben Davies, the N'randoms, continuing with the sticking plaster midfield of Dier/Dembele, and I could go on..... the only one who fits the bill really in this aspect, and demonstrably has a bit of fire in his belly, is Lamela.

So yes, it would be nice for the manager to have extra quality to work with. But when the players you have okayed are quite often failing on the base characteristics then he has to share some blame for any lack of depth.

If you're promised something, and turn down Real Madrid on the back of it, only fair that you feel disenfranchised when your employer betrays you.