The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[danielneeds]

If Levy sold Toby in January I would pack Poch’s bag myself, because no way would someone of his quality deserve to work in shitbag conditions like that.

 

[spids]

What makes you think we would sell in Jan? Don't see it happening just because of the affect it would have not only on Poch, but on the whole team.

As I said in one of my earlier posts, I do not think Levy would/could turn down an offer like £40M for a player who can leave for £25M in July, especially with our stadium debt etc. I think now that Mourinho will not be panic shopping for a CB in January the likelihood of this happening has reduced. But Toby is worth £40M easily. Not sure if any of the top teams need to strengthen at CB though.

Not all teams wait until they can take advantage of a cheaper price ... see Man U paying massively over the odds for Sanchez last year when they could have got him for nothing 6 months later. He was effectively £30M (swap for Mikhytarian) plus £500k per week after tax (?!?!) on a long contract.

If Levy was prepared to, assuming someone offered £40M, sacrifice £15M for the good of the team this season (and Poch's happiness), then surely he'd just offer Toby an improved offer, or a one off signing on fee to sign a new contract if he doesn't want to break our wage structure? I'll be happy when the winter window closes and our squad is still intact.

 

[vegassd]

I personally have no problem with Toby leaving for £25M in the summer if his clause gets activated as that’s what we signed up to and everyone has known for ages. Plus we have Verts, Sanchez and Foyth. But selling in January would be a massive mistake. At the same time, I do not see how Levy could turn down say £40m now for him as it’s a great price for a 32 year old player who can leave for £25m in July, plus we clearly have books to balance regarding the stadium.

What you're saying here is that selling him in January would be a mistake but that if we get a decent offer for him then not selling him in January would be a mistake. You can't have it both ways mate.

Don't make the mistake of thinking the worst of Levy and then creating a situation from it. I don't think a £40m bid would be accepted for Toby at this stage of the season unless the player was kicking up a substantial fuss. But I don't know if that's true or not so I'm not going to create a story in my head then start slagging off our club for it.

 

[RichieS]

As I said in one of my earlier posts, I do not think Levy would/could turn down an offer like £40M for a player who can leave for £25M in July, especially with our stadium debt etc. I think now that Mourinho will not be panic shopping for a CB in January the likelihood of this happening has reduced. But Toby is worth £40M easily. Not sure if any of the top teams need to strengthen at CB though.

Not all teams wait until they can take advantage of a cheaper price ... see Man U paying massively over the odds for Sanchez last year when they could have got him for nothing 6 months later. He was effectively £30M (swap for Mikhytarian) plus £500k per week after tax (?!?!) on a long contract.

If Levy was prepared to, assuming someone offered £40M, sacrifice £15M for the good of the team this season (and Poch's happiness), then surely he'd just offer Toby an improved offer, or a one off signing on fee to sign a new contract if he doesn't want to break our wage structure? I'll be happy when the winter window closes and our squad is still intact.

You think Toby hasn't been offered something similar to Son, Hugo and Dele's new contracts?

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

Alderweireld is of course not moving in January

 

[Shadydan]

Why would Levy sell Toby in January lol

 

[Saoirse]

Personally I would sell Toby in Jan IF a big enough offer came in - I'm talking in the £45m-£50m range to make it worthwhile - unless we think there's a real chance of him agreeing a new deal. Of course we'd like to have him for the end of this season, but we're not Man City, we have limited financial means. In effect you're asking if an extra four months of Toby is the best possible use of £25m to Tottenham, and I'm just not convinced it is. If we choose not to sell him till the summer that is significantly less room to manuever in the transfer market either for a direct replacement, or to upgrade another position , it's that simple.

 

[Blackrat1299]

Is this for real????

Mauricio Pochettino wants Tottenham fans to be more like Liverpool

There are quite a few rags advocating this.

 

[Cornpattbuck]

Why would Levy sell Toby in January lol

Pretty sure that's the whole point of triggering the clause. Everyone can crack on and concentrate now and, who knows, if we achieve something big this season, Toby can always sign an extension in the summer.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Is this for real????

Mauricio Pochettino wants Tottenham fans to be more like Liverpool

There are quite a few rags advocating this.

It would be considerably helpful if you provided a link or two so people can judge context, any quotes etc etc

That would be much better than banging in just a headline. You'll maybe get a better and more considered response.

Although that's not a given on SC

 

[JCRD]

Is this for real????

Mauricio Pochettino wants Tottenham fans to be more like Liverpool

There are quite a few rags advocating this.

He didnt say that - he said that Anfield is a fortress and the fans are having a party etc whilst we are trudging off to a desolate wembley. Basically saying he cannot wait to get back home

 

[Shadydan]

Personally I would sell Toby in Jan IF a big enough offer came in - I'm talking in the £45m-£50m range to make it worthwhile - unless we think there's a real chance of him agreeing a new deal. Of course we'd like to have him for the end of this season, but we're not Man City, we have limited financial means. In effect you're asking if an extra four months of Toby is the best possible use of £25m to Tottenham, and I'm just not convinced it is. If we choose not to sell him till the summer that is significantly less room to manuever in the transfer market either for a direct replacement, or to upgrade another position , it's that simple.

You'd sell one of our best players even though we're challenging for the title, in the cup semi and in the last 16 of the CL, to most probably a top 4 rival nonetheless?

 

[buckley]

I believe he was pointing out that the atmosphere at Wembley is poor whereas the same cannot be said for Anfield simple fact really because when teams come to our new place it will be many times more intimidating than the Wembley experience is.
He was saying he wanted us make a fierce atmosphere as at Anfield.

 

[BPR_U16]

Think we all know the Wembley experience is getting to be a bit of a drag

Poch in past has said doesn't mind playing there, and we are getting the results, but the atmosphere does suck!!!

Our group are fed up with different people around us every match - for they never sing, are more interested in selfies than the game and then disappear early (mind you lots of genuine fans do that too!!).

Poch just wants the 12th man for the run in, and who can blame him

 

[Saoirse]

most probably a top 4 rival nonetheless?

That's actually a good point. Right now we can still choose who to accept a bid from e.g. United who are some distance away from us, or a team abroad. Wait till the summer and we have zero say. I know it won't be a popular opinion but I could see him showing up in Woolwich. A top, experienced CB at a discount price is exactly what they need, and they'd be willing to pay considerably higher wages than us.

 

[Danfunkel]

That's actually a good point. Right now we can still choose who to accept a bid from e.g. United who are some distance away from us, or a team abroad. Wait till the summer and we have zero say. I know it won't be a popular opinion but I could see him showing up in Woolwich. A top, experienced CB at a discount price is exactly what they need, and they'd be willing to pay considerably higher wages than us.

Daniel Levy would be lynched if he let that happen. Not a chance. And why would he actually want to go there? It'll be Manchester or abroad before the clause kicks in.

 

[Saoirse]

Daniel Levy would be lynched if he let that happen. Not a chance. And why would he actually want to go there? It'll be Manchester or abroad before the clause kicks in.

That's the thing. The only way Levy can make sure that doesn't happen is if he sells Toby next month. If we wait till summer, it's a release clause, we have absolutely zero say in where he goes. As for why he'd go, I think they may genuinely offer the most money. They're going to try to get rid of Ozil which frees up a lot of wages, and it's a position of desperate need for them. I think City probably have better/younger and more reliable options with infinite money, and United may or may not decide they need a CB depending on who manages them and how the existing options do now that joker Mourinho is gone.

 

[robertgoulet]

That's the thing. The only way Levy can make sure that doesn't happen is if he sells Toby next month. If we wait till summer, it's a release clause, we have absolutely zero say in where he goes. As for why he'd go, I think they may genuinely offer the most money. They're going to try to get rid of Ozil which frees up a lot of wages, and it's a position of desperate need for them. I think City probably have better/younger and more reliable options with infinite money, and United may or may not decide they need a CB depending on who manages them and how the existing options do now that joker Mourinho is gone.

Selling him in January is definitely not a popular opinion but one that, as long as Poch is on board with, I would be willing to accept.

 

[Dillspur]

If we get a semi decent offer for toby from a foriegn club in January, we have to take it. We're can't lose him for 25m to a direct competitor, could you imagine if he rocked up at Pool or the chavs

 

[Primativ]

That's the thing. The only way Levy can make sure that doesn't happen is if he sells Toby next month. If we wait till summer, it's a release clause, we have absolutely zero say in where he goes. As for why he'd go, I think they may genuinely offer the most money. They're going to try to get rid of Ozil which frees up a lot of wages, and it's a position of desperate need for them. I think City probably have better/younger and more reliable options with infinite money, and United may or may not decide they need a CB depending on who manages them and how the existing options do now that joker Mourinho is gone.

No way Toby goes to Arsenal. He wouldn’t do that.