The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[Doctor Dinkey]

on our day we are capable of beating anyone.

Including Man City? Behave.

 

[Francis Gibbs]

Said it many many times and will say it again Poch failing is from the summer - he didn't and I think still doesn't know how to improve us in the final third

Funny how you've been silent since Lamela returned yet turned up the instant we lose. Wum.

Unlike some I will comment when he has had done something worthy of comment- good or bad.
Hasn't been the Messiah some geniuses would have you believe and hasn't been awful, just meh

and the wtf has that got to do with Poch in this thread?

 

[agrdavidsfan]

To be honest I am poch is biggest fan but his biggest downfall at the moment is

He’s so stubborn and loyal to some of these players and they are not returning the favour for him.

 

[lukespurs7]

I strongly disagree with this.
The talent at Pep's disposal in his entire management career has been astonishing. The best players and squad in Spain and Germany and now in England.

Poch has worked wonders with our group and even with the astonishing financial edge, if we had had more luck with injuries this season we would be in a better spot.

Anyway am disappointed in the result and some moments but still very proud of Poch and the team.

COYS!

I never ever said I’m not for one minute proud of what poch has achieved, he has overachieved hugely for 2 years but I think pep is on another level as a manager just as their players are on another level to most of ours. You don’t go on 16,17 match winning runs in a competitive football league unless you are a very very special manager, regardless of the players at disposal. They don’t just beat team they absoloeuly suffocate and batter teams time and again.

Sir Alex Ferguson one of the best managers of all time, who is the one team and manager he couldn’t get the better of? Barcelona and pep and his amazing man.u team not only lost but didn’t even compete or come close, that is down to peps coaching of the team on and of the ball.

Poch is an amazing manager and we are lucky to have him but he’s not on peps level ... yet.

 

[rossdapep]

This summer Poch is going to have to make some tough decisions. Looks like some players are going through the motions a bit, others like Dembele coming to the end of their peak. Might need a total reboot of the team going into the new stadium, which is nor ideal.

It does appear so.

 

[Woodyy]

I’m just disappointed at how far behind we looked yesterday, obviously the table suggests we aren’t anywhere near their level but I thought we would’ve at least put up a fight. I found myself wanting to give a slap to the players that I was worshipping last year. I don’t know if I’m being fickle or it’s because I know we are capable of so much more. About half of their players were playing in last year’s games where we comfortably beat them at WHL and drew at City. There’s no way the likes of Walker, Delph, Ederson and Mangala are the game-changers from last season. I guess missing our best CB and CDM hurt us but I think it’s more the fact the players weren’t up for it and we got it tactically wrong.

 

[rossdapep]

yeah he should have brought on Wanyama or Toby....or maybe the fully fit Lamela as opposed to the one they are managing after 13 months out. Yeah Poch what were you thinking?

So you think he's totally blameless at times like this?

I have a lot of faith in Poch. I believe he's the right coach for us and he's done incredibly well for us.

However, that doesn't make him immune to criticism, constructive criticism may I add. We all want him to be as good as he can be, well because it means we are better. But before he does that he needs to overcome his shortcomings. Yesterday's performance us shortcomings were completely exposed.

Getting rid of Walker - I backed this at the time but it could now have serious repercussions. Poch needs to rethink ostracising players and perhaps think of how to get a player back on his side first before deciding that they can go. Any player who wants a big money move will now know how to get it.

Superstitutions - I've been through this in more detail elsewhere but yesterday was an outstanding example. You have to be proactive in this game. You can't simply hope a boot up the arse will change things. Especially since a boot up the arse doesn't suddenly improve Trippiers ability to recover quickly and match Sanes speed or suddenly give a tired Dembele energy. Changes were so obviously needed. Poch needs to sharpen up and change things. He has done it before and it worked but he certainly seems reluctant.

 

[WiganSpur]

This summer Poch is going to have to make some tough decisions. Looks like some players are going through the motions a bit, others like Dembele coming to the end of their peak. Might need a total reboot of the team going into the new stadium, which is nor ideal.

Depends who's going to moan about leaving of course but I don't think that much needs doing.

A Rose replacement and a good quality CM are the main priorities, but there are certainly areas for improvement in the final third too.

 

[rocklink]

This summer Poch is going to have to make some tough decisions. Looks like some players are going through the motions a bit, others like Dembele coming to the end of their peak. Might need a total reboot of the team going into the new stadium, which is nor ideal.

No team is complete. Even if man city win every trophy in this season this doesn't mean they will stop signing players. In each and every season, you need to bring in new faces so that the existing players don't become too much complacent. But we didn't do that ever.

 

[danielneeds]

No team is complete. Even if man city win every trophy in this season this doesn't mean they will stop signing players. In each and every season, you need to bring in new faces so that the existing players don't become too much complacent. But we didn't do that ever.

That's not really my point. Poch's football is based around a spirit and enthusiasm, and getting his players like work like dogs. There comes a point, where after a few years the players get tired of it. Klopp had the same thing happen at Dortmund, the intensity dropped, and he'll probably have it happen at Liverpool too. Even Pep found it to a certain extent at Barca.

So you either change the manager, or the manager changes the players, and gets rid of the ones who aren't buying into it anymore.

 

[rocklink]

That's not really my point. Poch's football is based around a spirit and enthusiasm, and getting his players like work like dogs. There comes a point, where after a few years the players get tired of it. Klopp had the same thing happen at Dortmund, the intensity dropped, and he'll probably have it happen at Liverpool too. Even Pep found it to a certain extent at Barca.

So you either change the manager, or the manager changes the players, and gets rid of the ones who aren't buying into it anymore.

The solution is you need to buy one or two new players in each season so that those 1 or 2 players can make huge impact in the season. Like how salah is impacting liverpool this season and even though mane is not in his best form, salah has replaced mane's goal tally of last season.

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

To be honest I am poch is biggest fan but his biggest downfall at the moment is

He’s so stubborn and loyal to some of these players and they are not returning the favour for him.

Who is distinctively better than the 11 he started last night..My only change would have been Lamela for Alli.

 

[luptic]

I wish we would just spend what was needed to fill the gaps that are all too apparent. getting rid of rose etc would help, but I'm afraid this squad needs a major refresh, it's very good when everyone is fit but when was the last time that was?

 

[Cornpattbuck]

We get beaten by the team that's beating everyone and people are selling off our whole squad and sacking the manager?! Calm down dears...

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

We get beaten by the team that's beating everyone and people are selling off our whole squad and sacking the manager?! Calm down dears...

But we didn't play 3232 or 41121. Out the ****!

 

[shelfboy68]

We get beaten by the team that's beating everyone and people are selling off our whole squad and sacking the manager?! Calm down dears...

Who is asking for the manager to be sacked ?

 

[dricha1]

Including Man City? Behave.

With a full strength team we have a chance. Wanyama and Toby are massive losses.

 

[shelfboy68]

I never ever said I’m not for one minute proud of what poch has achieved, he has overachieved hugely for 2 years but I think pep is on another level as a manager just as their players are on another level to most of ours. You don’t go on 16,17 match winning runs in a competitive football league unless you are a very very special manager, regardless of the players at disposal. They don’t just beat team they absoloeuly suffocate and batter teams time and again.

Sir Alex Ferguson one of the best managers of all time, who is the one team and manager he couldn’t get the better of? Barcelona and pep and his amazing man.u team not only lost but didn’t even compete or come close, that is down to peps coaching of the team on and of the ball.

Poch is an amazing manager and we are lucky to have him but he’s not on peps level ... yet.

Poch is a good manager who has done a good at spurs but he will never be at peps level ever imo.

 

[kmk]

Poch is a good manager who has done a good at spurs but he will never be at peps level ever imo.

Do you think Pep could have done a better job than Poch at our club with less financial resources than Man City?

 

[DCSPUR]

Poch is a good manager who has done a good at spurs but he will never be at peps level ever imo.

disagree
as does red nose who knows a thing or two about managers
perhaps compare the two when Pep has done something without Messi, inherited a treble winning team in Munich (and deliberately weakened his opponent using financial power or comes to England and spends 100s of millions on top of a 1 billion pound team.

some how think that Poch, say "only" the money spent by Chelsea or Arse would have converted the last 2 seasons into 1-2 titles