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The ousting of Daniel (COYS)

Albertbarich

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I don't think it's right to say that we're being punished for lost revenue.

I think he would have raised prices irrespective of whether we got top four, top six or even won the league or not

He saw Fulham get greedy and a couple of others and there was no way he wasn't going to waste that opportunity to squeeze some more cash out

I had a rant about this yesterday and it upsets me at just how cold our football club is but as someone who has moved away and had to turn down a free ticket even because travel was too much I can't really do anything about it. I'd love for match going fans to mobilise and arrange even a one off boycott off all in stadium services but I think the Fighting Cock were right today. We just ain't built like that. We never have and never will do what's needed.

It's just as shame greedy businessman take advantage of it. But I guess that's the story of Britain in general at the moment.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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I don't think it's right to say that we're being punished for lost revenue.

I think he would have raised prices irrespective of whether we got top four, top six or even won the league or not

He saw Fulham get greedy and a couple of others and there was no way he wasn't going to waste that opportunity to squeeze some more cash out

I had a rant about this yesterday and it upsets me at just how cold our football club is but as someone who has moved away and had to turn down a free ticket even because travel was too much I can't really do anything about it. I'd love for match going fans to mobilise and arrange even a one off boycott off all in stadium services but I think the Fighting Cock were right today. We just ain't built like that. We never have and never will do what's needed.

It's just as shame greedy businessman take advantage of it. But I guess that's the story of Britain in general at the moment.
What has actually happened? Has he just raised cat A prices? Have any other clubs done this?
 

Pochemon94

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I don't think it's right to say that we're being punished for lost revenue.

I think he would have raised prices irrespective of whether we got top four, top six or even won the league or not

He saw Fulham get greedy and a couple of others and there was no way he wasn't going to waste that opportunity to squeeze some more cash out

I had a rant about this yesterday and it upsets me at just how cold our football club is but as someone who has moved away and had to turn down a free ticket even because travel was too much I can't really do anything about it. I'd love for match going fans to mobilise and arrange even a one off boycott off all in stadium services but I think the Fighting Cock were right today. We just ain't built like that. We never have and never will do what's needed.

It's just as shame greedy businessman take advantage of it. But I guess that's the story of Britain in general at the moment.
It's different but I will say. the owners def saw what the NFL was doing and want in on it. Tickets to Rams game start at $200 each for nose bleed. Beer is $30 at the stadium for not even a pint. It's insane, a trip to the game runs a family of 4 close to $1000. PL teams have realized that at the end of the day, supporters love the club more than their money and will eventually fold. Ticket prices will only continue to go up and same with food/drink.
 

Albertbarich

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What has actually happened? Has he just raised cat A prices? Have any other clubs done this?
I think Fulham for example raised the cost of one of their season tickets to 3 grand and others have raised prices although I don't know how much by.

The issue isn't just raising prices he has also increased category a games and reduced cat C games to just 4 this season (in the league).

The trust said on LWOS earlier it's something like 2 million a season extra if they sell out. Nothing to them but will really hurt families and others who can't afford season tickets .
 

Albertbarich

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It's different but I will say. the owners def saw what the NFL was doing and want in on it. Tickets to Rams game start at $200 each for nose bleed. Beer is $30 at the stadium for not even a pint. It's insane, a trip to the game runs a family of 4 close to $1000. PL teams have realized that at the end of the day, supporters love the club more than their money and will eventually fold. Ticket prices will only continue to go up and same with food/drink.
That's disgusting. Honestly even if I was rich I wouldn't go out of principle.
 

SandroClegane

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That's disgusting. Honestly even if I was rich I wouldn't go out of principle.
Since Messi got announced, cheapest ticket on the secondary market for MLS single matches is in the $300 range.

The secondary market here drives ticket pricing. The exchange that Spurs use would be completely unheard of here as scalping is out of control. The ticketing sites (ticketmaster, stubhub, etc) are in bed with the scalpers as well.

So if you're a team, it's essentially "why let others profit when you could be doing the profiting".
 

fishhhandaricecake

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I think Fulham for example raised the cost of one of their season tickets to 3 grand and others have raised prices although I don't know how much by.

The issue isn't just raising prices he has also increased category a games and reduced cat C games to just 4 this season (in the league).

The trust said on LWOS earlier it's something like 2 million a season extra if they sell out. Nothing to them but will really hurt families and others who can't afford season tickets .
I thought season tickets got froze?
 

Albertbarich

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Since Messi got announced, cheapest ticket on the secondary market for MLS single matches is in the $300 range.

The secondary market here drives ticket pricing. The exchange that Spurs use would be completely unheard of here as scalping is out of control. The ticketing sites (ticketmaster, stubhub, etc) are in bed with the scalpers as well.

So if you're a team, it's essentially "why let others profit when you could be doing the profiting".
Appreciate the information there but thats not a culture that should be encouraged or accepted.

I want to share something Uli Hoeness said ..
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If the club weren't receiving so much TV money I'd have sympathy but the crazy amounts they are getting means they could take the Bayern attitude and I reckon they would make a lot of that back through drinks and food.

Unrealistic I know but there is only so much change I'll accept before my patience is worn out at the sheer greed of it all.
 

dontcallme

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So where do Spurs currently stand on Levy out?

I think with a new manager bringing optimism, with a few potentially good signings that have come early in the window, now is the time to create an optimistic feeling around the club.

Whatever our view on Levy, surely we want to enjoy the football and supporting our club. It sounds like Munn is already involved and the setup for transfers appears to be working well.

But any current good feelings, don't let him off the hook. Ange is currently very optimistic. He appears to favour developing players and giving them a chance where warranted. He needs to be supported by the club at every level.
Took Levy less than a week to do something to kill some positivity.
 

KaribYid

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Appreciate the information there but thats not a culture that should be encouraged or accepted.

I want to share something Uli Hoeness said ..
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If the club weren't receiving so much TV money I'd have sympathy but the crazy amounts they are getting means they could take the Bayern attitude and I reckon they would make a lot of that back through drinks and food.

Unrealistic I know but there is only so much change I'll accept before my patience is worn out at the sheer greed of it all.

Exactly. The Club received £144m in TV money, £183m in commercial income and £106m in ticket income in the last set of accounts.

Raising ticket prices may earned the club an extra £3-4m but when there's £226m cash in the bank, how much of a difference will that really make? An extra £5-10 every match will affect the regular fan a lot more.

It's just sheer greed.
 

Hoopspur

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I agree that the increase in prices is disgusting. But I will say though that when I first bought ST’s there was a defined financial advantage in doing so. That has been eroded so that the only advantage in forking out in April of the previous season is a guarantee of a ticket to all the matches for the forthcoming season without even knowing whether you’ll be able to attend. It seems loyalty or thanks to fans is heavily balanced on the side of the club.

Now I am not defending Levy and Spurs in the slightest, but to effectively be able to pick and choose then one would expect to pay a small premium imo.

That thought does not get around the overall starting point of all this. I do think that the price of match day tickets across the board at Spurs is too high. Especially in relation to the position we are in now and historically.

Only time will tell whether this short term greed/clawing back works. If for a game there are a couple of thousand seats empty then it will have not.

I hate it, and also most things about Spurs at the moment. Honestly where I live in London is to do with the proximity to WHL. For all these years I have followed on blindly or have been duped by this club and certainly have been taken advantage of. I am stupid and also hate myself for doing it, yet here I am again.

Oh and one of my mates has had to give up his ST this year (through ill health). The club sent him a questionnaire type thing to let them know why he was not renewing. I personally would have given some false answers and given them both barrels. Having said this, his condition is reasonably serious and maybe, just maybe he was clinging onto the hope that there was some way that he could have still been helped to attend. No chance of that I guess.
 
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olliec

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On top of that he’s willing to let Kane walk for free next summer instead of taking the money and letting us rebuild. All because Bayern went behind his back, but how many times have we done that in the past? His ego is something else, and will always be a problem for us.
 

Drink!Drink!

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Come rain or shine it's ker-ching look at that lovely money for Daniel (COYS) and ENIC

Most Spurs fans are living through a period of inflation being higher than wage rises - so we are mostly all getting pay cuts year on year - instead of being responsible, giving a damn about the Spurs family - it's just another excuse to cash in for Levy.

I am sure ENIC will spend more on transfers this summer, they need to get back into the goldilocks zone, the peak of their ambition, the "race for 4th"

I am also sure Levy has factored in how passive our fan base is, a race for 4th and the fan pressure will disappear - for those who always say protests do nothing, don't know about that, but for sure, there are consequences for not protesting.
 

Hoopspur

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On top of that he’s willing to let Kane walk for free next summer instead of taking the money and letting us rebuild. All because Bayern went behind his back, but how many times have we done that in the past? His ego is something else, and will always be a problem for us.
Damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t. There doesn’t seem to be an obvious answer to this that won’t have people up in arms.
 

dontcallme

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On top of that he’s willing to let Kane walk for free next summer instead of taking the money and letting us rebuild. All because Bayern went behind his back, but how many times have we done that in the past? His ego is something else, and will always be a problem for us.
The money grabber who lets players go for free.

The ticket price raise has really pissed me off, but I don’t think yours is a valid criticism.
 

Trix

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On top of that he’s willing to let Kane walk for free next summer instead of taking the money and letting us rebuild. All because Bayern went behind his back, but how many times have we done that in the past? His ego is something else, and will always be a problem for us.
Nothing to do with Bayern. It has always been the game plan to try and get everything in order before trying to convince him. As I keep saying thereare more than enough legitimate reasons to dislike Levy and want him gone, but he's not to blame for everything.
 
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Albertbarich

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We all know Levy desperately tries to keep hold of his top stars, sometimes for too long. Where his fault lies with Kane is overseeing us going backwards and showing kane were not serious about challenging the top teams but that debate has been done to death and he isn't changing the wage structure or attitude towards team building anytime soon...

What we can do though is not accept our fanbase and community being treated like an inconvenient cash cow for him to abuse and use as he pleases. Football debates aside that should be a line he shouldn't cross.

The TV money won't last forever, we will so we deserve to be treated as such.
 
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