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Nebby

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We all know Levy desperately tries to keep hold of his top stars, sometimes for too long. Where his fault lies with Kane is overseeing us going backwards and showing kane were not serious about challenging the top teams but that debate has been done to death and he isn't changing the wage structure or attitude towards team building anytime soon...

What we can do though is not accept our fanbase and community being treated like an inconvenient cash cow for him to abuse and use as he pleases. Football debates aside that should be a line he shouldn't cross.

The TV money won't last forever, we will so we deserve to be treated as such.
One might argue that he’s played an absolute blinder with Kane. His salary is low compared to what he could earn elsewhere, and his medal collection is empty. And yet he’s still ours.
 

olliec

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Nothing to do with Bayern. It has always been the game plan to try and get everything in order before trying to convince him. As I keep saying thereare more than enough legitimate reasons to dislike Levy and want him gone, but he's not to blame for
If Kane walks for free will we spend 70-100m on a world class striker? This is what worries me. If he longer on his contract then of course we could reject. If levy cashes in I’d be happy as we have money to get at least a half decent replacement.
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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Am I the only one who thinks Levy has ordered a new kitchen sink and had it delivered to the new house Kane is building?
 

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One might argue that he’s played an absolute blinder with Kane. His salary is low compared to what he could earn elsewhere, and his medal collection is empty. And yet he’s still ours.
For a number of years I've suspected we have been 'creative' with Harry's salary*. The easiest way to do this is to have an extraordinary goal bonus. A really high additional amount per goal. To me that has also explained the amount of minutes, free kicks etc that he has taken and played.

*Sorry about bringing that in here, but as I have been banned for ages from most other parts of the site there's really not many subjects I can comment on.
 

muel

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On top of that he’s willing to let Kane walk for free next summer instead of taking the money and letting us rebuild. All because Bayern went behind his back, but how many times have we done that in the past? His ego is something else, and will always be a problem for us.

Perspectives and Opinions are what is great about football but also frustrating.

There would be equal frustration and anger directed at Levy by others stating “picked money over keeping our best ever player. Same old money grabbing Levy” if he was sold.

Whether it’s what you would do or not SURELY you understand there is pros and cons to both strategies?
 

olliec

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Perspectives and Opinions are what is great about football but also frustrating.

There would be equal frustration and anger directed at Levy by others stating “picked money over keeping our best ever player. Same old money grabbing Levy” if he was sold.

Whether it’s what you would do or not SURELY you understand there is pros and cons to both strategies?
I do but I am thinking long term for the club, and for the long term I feel it would be better to cash in on Kane and buy a suitable replacement than to risk it all and him walking free next season.
 

BedfordshireSpud

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Potential new investment you say? No way Harry goes if we are manoeuvring, and the extra cash might help convince him to stay.
 

Goobers

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Well it seems absolutely the right time in terms of joe lewis' age and what they have built and the possible profits they could make through a sale I suppose.
 

Albertbarich

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I do but I am thinking long term for the club, and for the long term I feel it would be better to cash in on Kane and buy a suitable replacement than to risk it all and him walking free next season.
Say Bayern offer 80 million.

Well would you agree having Harry here greatly increases our chances of a top five finish? That achievement is worth every bit the 80 million.

So yeah it's a gamble but it's why Levy won't feel strong armed by Bayern because he knows the champions league pays what they're offering.

Also say they get close to 100 million and we bite. Well if we bite early and then you get PSG, man Utd or Madrid offering the same amount we have lowballed ourselves out of a bidding war.

I think Levy has to win the deal which is the real reason he won't accept unless they make him think he has won but this is a complicated situation and our of everything that has happened the least of our worries to get angry with him about when he has in truth kept Harry far longer than he should have if we're talking about Harry's ability versus the clubs achievements.
 

olliec

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Say Bayern offer 80 million.

Well would you agree having Harry here greatly increases our chances of a top five finish? That achievement is worth every bit the 80 million.

So yeah it's a gamble but it's why Levy won't feel strong armed by Bayern because he knows the champions league pays what they're offering.

Also say they get close to 100 million and we bite. Well if we bite early and then you get PSG, man Utd or Madrid offering the same amount we have lowballed ourselves out of a bidding war.

I think Levy has to win the deal which is the real reason he won't accept unless they make him think he has won but this is a complicated situation and our of everything that has happened the least of our worries to get angry with him about when he has in truth kept Harry far longer than he should have if we're talking about Harry's ability versus the clubs achievements.
But if we miss out on CL next season with Kane in the side and he walks for free then I don’t think levy will spend 80m on a replacement. That’s why it’s a big gamble, and it is a delicate situation, but I just think we should cash in, and let a bidding war start between Bayern and PSG.
 

Albertbarich

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But if we miss out on CL next season with Kane in the side and he walks for free then I don’t think levy will spend 80m on a replacement. That’s why it’s a big gamble, and it is a delicate situation, but I just think we should cash in, and let a bidding war start between Bayern and PSG.
If we take the 80 million he won't spend it on a replacement.

It is a delicate situation I agree so no need to get wound up about it especially during what was a pretty constructive conversation about ticket prices and how the club treats it supporters.
 

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Of course there are so many contributory factors that we may have no knowledge about. Will the club still be in the same hands or is there a new injection of funding in order to make us more competitive for example. All these things make the Harry situation along with others more interesting and enticing. Despite the name of this thread I just cannot see the same thing meandering along still for say another 5 years, or even 2, without something incredibly major happening. Whether we actually like it or not is quite another factor of course. There is no doubt we are a 'big club' and will have to act accordingly at some stage.
 

olliec

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If we take the 80 million he won't spend it on a replacement.

It is a delicate situation I agree so no need to get wound up about it especially during what was a pretty constructive conversation about ticket prices and how the club treats it supporters.
I’m not wound up as I see both sides of the stories , but I think there are more pros to cashing in.
 

Trent Crimm

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Nothing to do with Bayern. It has always been the game plan to try and get everything in order before trying to convince him. As I keep saying thereare more than enough legitimate reasons to dislike Levy and want him gone, but he's not to blame for everything.

So waiting til last year of his deal was the “plan”?

Nuts really.
 

dontcallme

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So waiting til last year of his deal was the “plan”?

Nuts really.
We were all optimistic at the beginning of last season with Conte and Paratici in charge after a top 4 finish. Hoping for another good season with a successful manager could have pushed Kane to sign.
 

robotsonic

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So waiting til last year of his deal was the “plan”?

Nuts really.
I don't know why that would be weird, to be honest, if the hope is to have been in the best possible place towards the end of his deal to offer him the house to get him until the end of his career.

You don't ask someone to marry you after you just quit your third job in as many years and haven't been showering anywhere near as much as is sociable.
 

muel

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I do but I am thinking long term for the club, and for the long term I feel it would be better to cash in on Kane and buy a suitable replacement than to risk it all and him walking free next season.

See that in my view is a perfectly sound and logical opinion………but your previous post was a personal attack on Levy instead 🤷‍♂️
 

ralphs bald spot

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We all know Levy desperately tries to keep hold of his top stars, sometimes for too long. Where his fault lies with Kane is overseeing us going backwards and showing kane were not serious about challenging the top teams but that debate has been done to death and he isn't changing the wage structure or attitude towards team building anytime soon...

What we can do though is not accept our fanbase and community being treated like an inconvenient cash cow for him to abuse and use as he pleases. Football debates aside that should be a line he shouldn't cross.

The TV money won't last forever, we will so we deserve to be treated as such.
this is such a nothing argument football supporters before and no doubt after Levy have been paying to much to watch their football teams its nothing new the ground will still sell out for big games next season same as ever - no one want's prices to increase and luckily season tickets remained the same but football has always treated supporters as a commodity and that will never change though things are probably better now than they have been - these arguments have been going on as long as I have been going to football and thats now quite a long time
 
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