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The ousting of Daniel (COYS)

vegassd

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I admire your optimism, looking for the positive in a shitty situation and I am glad that our team will be finally better than the team when Poch left after 3 years and 6 transfer windows but I am not sure reasonable investment will be enough when it’s looking more and more likely that we will have to replace the three players that have kept us in the races during the last few years.
I don’t think we can replace the roughly 40 goals a season from Kane and Son. We may be able to cope with losing one of them but not both.
Danjuma and richarlison may be good players but they won’t get near those numbers, and can you see Levy actually splashing the kind of money required to get us a forward that’s going to guaranteed 20 goals a season? Let alone 2.
So I was thinking more along the lines of having a big spend this coming Summer, and then the squad would be more in a position of adding just a few players each year on a relatively reasonable spend.

For example, if this January was 12 months down the line with a more healthy squad already in place, I think it would look a lot more positive. Even though the Porro deal took an age, it's still the kind of quality to add to an established squad. Looking at maybe £150m spent each year as a spitball figure. But in the context of our current squad it doesn't feel like enough.

I think everything comes in context. Danjuma is either going to be good or bad. If he's bad he gets let go, if he's good there is potential to use GLC to help offset his transfer fee. Replacing Kane and Son seems impossible, although replacing Carrick, Berbatov, Modric and Bale all seemed impossible but we managed.

Perhaps Son leaves but Conte stays, we buy Lautaro and go 3-5-2. Perhaps Kane leaves, Poch returns and we go 4-2-3-1 with Kulu behind Richarlison with Son and Player X in the wide positions. Perhaps Kane, Son and Conte all leave, we get a manager appointment right for once and have something totally different. There are tonnes of possibilities, so I don't think it's worth projecting too miserable a future based on things we aren't sure of yet.

Kane, Son and Lloris are going to retire eventually, regardless of our owners. We will have to deal with it eventually, regardless of our owners. A player like Kane is one of those who you don't/can't replace like-for-like anyway, so when he leaves the manager at the time will need to come up with something new.

One way or another, we need to be in the mindset of spending properly (transfer fees and wages) and that needs to come from the top. I've personally been OK with the idea of building our revenues before spending hard on the team, but now the revenues are here I'm not mega confident in how they are being spent. That simply has to change in my opinion.
 

spurs9

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Not environmentally friendly but this thread and those like it on the other main forums and twitter threads should be printed off hundreds of times and sent in the post to the club.

Bombard them with what the actual fans think about him and ENIC. If it was done by these fan groups that wanted them out then it would increase the pressure. They could crowdfund to get the money together to do it. The club would be inundated for weeks with it. They wouldn’t be able to ignore that and done would find it’s way to Levy.

On top of the protests and chants at the stadium of course.

When the financial records come out they’ll be destroyed on social media etc.

I also want to know what’s happened to the £50 million that wasn’t drawn down from the shard issue by the end of December. Has that completely been lost now?
It would be a contradictory mess that would be easily dismissed. E.g:

"Back the Manager"
"Why are you buying a 33 year old LWB"
"Why buy Spence when the Manager doesn't want him"
"Levy should be investing in Home Grown players"

That's just from one page!

If we want Levy out, we need "Levy step down" banners and protests before and/or after the game but full positive support for the team (no "Levy/ENIC out chants") during the game.
 

spurs9

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Where I think Levy can be heavily criticised is keeping players on loan where they are clearly have no future at the club. The likes of Ndombele , Lo Celso and Reguillon are not coming back. But Levy doesnt want to sell them at a loss because it looks bad on the balance sheet. You can include Sanchez in that category too even though he cant be loaned out. That would free up some cash for another player sale potentially and avoid the fiasco that happened with Doherty last night.
I don't think that is true at all. We can't sell them because they are on massive wages and not performing well enough here or out on loan for clubs to want to pay anything close to matching them.

That mixed with the fact that clubs outside the PL are struggling financially since Covid.
 

Hotspur33

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For context.
 

the lad

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It does feel like Levy is stuck in that habit of negotiating every transfer down as low as possible. It's kind of like Del Boy after he becomes a millwionaire but he picks up the phone and starts trying to make a deal. I just can't see Levy ever being that guy to start splashing the cash. Even if we got a big investment from QSI I think he still drags out every transfer. He's all about his figures at the end of every tax year and being in profit.
Your being unkind to Del Boy comparing Levy to him.
 

SirNiNyHotspur

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For context.
Given the thread is this another cheap dig at the majority of our fans that would happen to have a problem with ENIC? If so comparing a minority of Liverpool or Arsenal fans gripes with ours given their successes, coincidentally 23 major trophies in the 23 years we've patiently waited for ENIC to deliver is like comparing apples to oranges, that's context...
 

Lea

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It would be a contradictory mess that would be easily dismissed. E.g:

"Back the Manager"
"Why are you buying a 33 year old LWB"
"Why buy Spence when the Manager doesn't want him"
"Levy should be investing in Home Grown players"

That's just from one page!

If we want Levy out, we need "Levy step down" banners and protests before and/or after the game but full positive support for the team (no "Levy/ENIC out chants") during the game.
Nothing going to happen most of those # brigade on twitter do not go to games but they love to make big noises on twitter
 

Hotspur33

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Given the thread is this another cheap dig at the majority of our fans that would happen to have a problem with ENIC? If so comparing a minority of Liverpool or Arsenal fans gripes with ours given their successes, coincidentally 23 major trophies in the 23 years we've patiently waited for ENIC to deliver is like comparing apples to oranges, that's context...
Nope, I saw it on my insta feed and thought that is interesting.
maybe the way in which things are reported helps create mass hysteria.

However, I don’t use twitter, so apologies if I’m incorrect, for those hashtags to be trending, I would guess there are a decent amount of them.

Furthermore, again, apologies if I’m incorrect, but is your username a reference to Nine inch nails?
 

legion

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Nope, I saw it on my insta feed and thought that is interesting.
maybe the way in which things are reported helps create mass hysteria.

However, I don’t use twitter, so apologies if I’m incorrect, for those hashtags to be trending, I would guess there are a decent amount of them.

Furthermore, again, apologies if I’m incorrect, but is your username a reference to Nine inch nails?
Twitter trends have been meaningless since they started using your own account data to recommend "trends".

It's more like "trending amongst those you already follow" now. Not meaningful for anything but confirmation bias.
 

Neon_Knight_

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Think it's worth remembering that Commoli didn't go out to Croatia and get the Modric deal done - Levy did it personally.
Given which thread this is in, I'm genuinely not sure if you're giving Levy credit for something or making a joke. ?
 

McFlash

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Simple thing for me is that in the summer, we NEED a GK, 2 CB's and an attacking option at least.
To get decent quality in those positions is going to cost at least 200m.
Considering the fact that we'll have to still pay for Romero, Porro and maybe Danjuma too, does anyone think we'll actually spend that much?
Our squad is falling to pieces and we've been trying to hold it together with gaffer tape and quick fixes.

It's catching up with us because we're still trying to operate like a small club, while trying to compete with the big boys.
We can't keep falling short every window and still expect to compete.

These loan deals like Porro are great but not when it's impacting what we can spend in the next window.
We're never actually improving, werey just fire fighting and it's beginning to catch up with us.

I just cannot see us addressing what we need to over the next umpteen windows because soon we'll be having to replace Kane and Son too.
I couldn't give a toss how much other clubs spend compared to us, I care about how we are managing our squad and for the past several years, we haven't been.

With the current ownership and their way of operating, were going nowhere...fast.
 
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Karol

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Reads to me we are going to wait for the new FFP regulations to level the playing field from season 25/26
 
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