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The ousting of Daniel (COYS)

yankspurs

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He's not incompetent nor is he evil, let's be clear on that.

I do take issue slightly with the word "sensible" because, it insinuates that the correct path is always the sensible one and it isn't. The aim for Levy is to balance success on the football pitch and the value and ability to generate revenue.

Now this is why I dislike the word sensible because sensible would be to not take any risk to where we may become off balanced. It is exactly like walking. In order to stay balanced, you keep your feet on the ground because in order to progress forwards, you have to temporarily be off balance. arguably there is evidence that when the footballing side of thing's start to go the wrong direction (backwards), so we're off balance, we will spend but when once thing's are balanced again we stand still. What we see then is much like walking there is a need to temporarily take risks with both feet coming off the ground to progress forward, smaller, steps are less risk. The footballing side moving forward, is what gets the financial side to then progress forward, then risking the financial side by spending is what gets the football side to move forward. It is literally the same as walking but we always choose the sensible option of standing still to keep the balance.

So I don't have a course of action for you that is sensible, however the approach that may take the club forward would be to risk the financial side by letting the football side take a step forward by risking Kane leaving for free, hoping that because of the great recruitment we have done this season both in terms of Manager and in terms of players like Maddison yields success to where Kane stays, thus convincing him to sign a contract and then we have secured the financial side.
He is, very much, incompetent. Hired a guy everyone knew was under investigation for financial fuckery, kept him around after his ban(and still is keeping him around how btw), hired a guy as the new football officer who he didnt even know when he could start(still hasnt btw) & the only reason we arent under investigation by the government for skirting Russian sanctions right now is because Sanchez rejected going there. Not to mention the matter of either lying to the PL now after his co-owner(& majority owner) was indicted or lied(again) to everyone 10 months ago when he said nothing changed after Lewis handed over control(in name only) to his lawyer.
 

Russ1201

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Kane was open to an extension to give him more time with some clauses relevant to next summer. Levy's pushed for him to go now instead. This is all on Levy and we shouldn't let him weasel out of it.

Any replacement we try to sign now probably will cost £10m more as their club can't get a replacement in (or more likely, we go for the "cheaper" option).

The only way Levy comes out of this is if he gives Ange exactly what he wants and Ange manages a miracle with the squad we have.
Just proves its all about profits and nothing else. He will find a way to weasel out of it he always does.
Unfortunately us fans our to accustomed to the same shit and are too soft.
 

MattyP

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2 year extension, huge wages/bonuses, £50m release clause next year to any club in CL.

That was easy. Next?

I'm now completely anti-Levy, nothing he can ever say or do is going to change my mind, he can forget the stadium being his legacy, his legacy is selling our best player (despite in Levy's own words the stadium being a game changer) because he wouldn't/couldn't match Harry's ambition.

That said, the deal you mention here I can understand why that wasn't hugely appealing.
 

Dov67

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Meaning Kane could have quite possibly gone to Woolwich or Chelsea next summer for 50M - IMHO that is far worse than him going Bayern now.
I dont for a moment believe he would ever have contemplated joining either Chelsea or the goonscum
 

vegassd

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Aug 5, 2006
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Surely Levy isn't going to piss off until people start getting serious about protesting. If enough people get up and protest outside the ground often enough it will get picked up and receive media coverage. People can protest before the game, then watch the game and support the team, then protest again afterwards. There just needs to be a will to do it.

I don't think boycotting merch or food and drink will ever have an impact because it isn't direct enough and won't be observed by enough people.

With the sale of Kane there is plenty of ammunition to hit them with. You can easily make a case for them having sold the soul of the club, so get out there and organise the protests.
 

For the love of Spurs

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I would love to ask levy does he think we get our money worth from what he’s serving up considering he charges us the most in the league.
It would be the standard no answer answer.

Levy: ‘’we have invested in state of the art infrastructure with premium food and drinks, all the income the club makes is put back into the squad’’.

(don’t blame me governor, the manager did it)
 

Dov67

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The protests last season were IMO completely half arsed, which also IMO contributed to Levy’s belief that he can do what he likes and get away with it, including selling a generational talent, and our best ever goal scorer one day before the season starts.

As a mate of mine said this morning, the only reason this didn’t drag on until minutes before the deadline closed on 31 August is because Kane himself set a deadline of the Brentford game.

The protests now need to reach white hot levels. Drastic times call for drastic measures - this must include scheduled pre-planned mass walkouts - those travelling all the way from Korea are of course excused :)
 

PLTuck

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Aug 22, 2006
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Surely Levy isn't going to piss off until people start getting serious about protesting. If enough people get up and protest outside the ground often enough it will get picked up and receive media coverage. People can protest before the game, then watch the game and support the team, then protest again afterwards. There just needs to be a will to do it.

I don't think boycotting merch or food and drink will ever have an impact because it isn't direct enough and won't be observed by enough people.

With the sale of Kane there is plenty of ammunition to hit them with. You can easily make a case for them having sold the soul of the club, so get out there and organise the protests.

The only protest that will get through is an empty stadium.

All the time people are paying the ticket price and spending money at the shop / bars / food, you could have 10,000 people every single day outside the stadium and it wouldn't make the blindest bit of difference.
 

mill

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It needs disruption of all the other events at entertainment arena, NFL, concerts, go karts etc he’ll take notice then
 

Russ1201

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It needs disruption of all the other events at entertainment arena, NFL, concerts, go karts etc he’ll take notice then
1000% agree that would annoy him as he cares more about everything other than football!
 

ultimateloner

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Leicester won the league and fa cup
yeah and now relegated, with their best players gone.
It's unclear when, if ever, they would be in a challenging position in PL again.
My view and that's totally personal and most would likely disagree, is that between 'doing ok' and 'crash and burn after 1 moment of glory' I'd choose the former. Your chance may come 1 day; at least be around if the opportunity arises.
I think most people will choose similarly if it's something regarding their own life, e.g: a career decision etc; so whilst football is less personal, I get where the owners are coming from. Afterall they have alot more skin in the game.
 

ultimateloner

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In that case

You are The type of fans Levy loves

And it's not survival but profits before glory for him
I'm also not a regular. I invest less of my time than guys who go regularly so my words/feelings count for less.
For me it's a matter of survival at the top end of the table. We've had multiple slip ups that's already cost the team its competitive position; so a few more and we will go further down.
A shot at glory isn't worth the risk of slipping down the table. I think Leicester fans would agree.
 

the stick man

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The needless twenty percent price increase has finally priced me and my son out this year. First time in 35 years I won’t go at all. I’m a firefighter and the cost of living crisis has now meant I have to cut back.
im third generation spurs, my son is fourth, Daniel levy has pretty much ended that now.

that is why I dispise him
 

glacierSpurs

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Kane was open to an extension to give him more time with some clauses relevant to next summer. Levy's pushed for him to go now instead. This is all on Levy and we shouldn't let him weasel out of it.

Any replacement we try to sign now probably will cost £10m more as their club can't get a replacement in (or more likely, we go for the "cheaper" option).

The only way Levy comes out of this is if he gives Ange exactly what he wants and Ange manages a miracle with the squad we have.
That changes the entire context of yesterday's events if these are true. But snce things already soured with Levy, Kane could have still stayed and played for us one last season if he's really convinced by Ange?

But I guess there will be too many ifs for that to happen and may really affect us the entire season.
 

FibreOpticJesus

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Something along the lines of "you took money for Kane, you took money by raising ticket prices, you're not taking more for merchandise and food/drink" to try and talk people out of spending more. That should send a message ENIC understand.
Not spending a penny on match days and no merchandise for me till Levy is gone.
 

absolute bobbins

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The thing is, I am actually qualified to run a business like Spurs (LLB, MBA, city career and now built something that is getting big) and to say he's made a lot of mistakes is a wild rose tinted view of his management of the club. He has made errors piled upon errors, piled upon errors and it stems from his inability to delegate anything and results in missed opportunities and leaving a criminal amount of money on the table.
  • That fucking stadium that he is so proud of should never have been opened without a naming rights deal locked and loaded, I would go so far as to say it should have been being finalised before we played our last game at WHL.
  • The near misses of success, especially the CL final should have been built upon, there should have been a we will build and go again attitude but there was too much fear from the chairman to do so.
  • The inability to cut his losses on non-performing players.
  • The distinct lack of ruthlessness in anything but outgoings of key players
  • There is more of a focus on CSR than football, that comes from the top
Levy is a small, little man who thinks in small terms. He has bought his way into the big time with family money. I supported when his decisions made sense but he’s the quintessential Cambridge graduate, looks great on paper but often falls apart in the real world. He is woefully out of his depth, especially in the environment that Spurs are now operating by dint of valuation and recent flirtations with success.
 
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TOLBINY

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I dont for a moment believe he would ever have contemplated joining either Chelsea or the goonscum
But the terms suggested by Rob would have made it a possibility, and Levy would have been condemend for even allwoing that possibility to exisit.
 
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