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The ousting of Daniel (COYS)

muffwah

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Feb 8, 2007
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2 year extension, huge wages/bonuses, £50m release clause next year to any club in CL.

That was easy. Next?

That's a terrible deal in my opinion. He was offered £400k p/w and wasn't interested and any suggestion that he wanted some release clause like that says to me he is leaving anyway but would have stayed in the PL. It is a bad deal because we a hit financially, he goes to a rival and it does nothing to prevent the circus of rumour and instability that we would have faced. Also ramps up pressure on the coach.
 

bod33

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Ange Postecoglou says "I had conversations with Harry the first day I arrived, he was up front and honest and I was the same. You kind of get an indication that he had made up his mind that if the clubs agreed, then he would go."​

so i dont buy this forcing out angle

 

SirHarryHotspur

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that’s clearly stagnation - especially given ST prices were held - and costs rose - the master businessman strikes again

Are refunds open for the Kane cop out?
There is no stagnation, as at all PL clubs season ticket numbers offered are limited to a percentage of capacity , most clubs limit season tickets to between 65% & 75 % of capacity . The remaining seats are offered to members on a match by match basis , normally at higher prices than a season ticket holder is paying on average for an equivalent seat.
Old article but it gives an idea of ST's at each club..
 

McArchibald

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The thing is, I am actually qualified to run a business like Spurs (LLB, MBA, city career and now built something that is getting big) and to say he's made a lot of mistakes is a wild rose tinted view of his management of the club. He has made errors piled upon errors, piled upon errors and it stems from his inability to delegate anything and results in missed opportunities and leaving a criminal amount of money on the table.
  • That fucking stadium that he is so proud of should never have been opened without a naming rights deal locked and loaded, I would go so far as to say it should have been being finalised before we played our last game at WHL.
  • The near misses of success, especially the CL final should have been built upon, there should have been a we will build and go again attitude but there was too much fear from the chairman to do so.
  • The inability to cut his losses on non-performing players.
  • The distinct lack of ruthlessness in anything but outgoings of key players
  • There is more of a focus on CSR than football, that comes from the top
Levy is a small, little man who thinks in small terms. He has bought his way into the big time with family money. I supported when his decisions made sense but he the quintessential Cambridge graduate, looks great on paper but often falls apart in the real world. He is incredibly out of his depth, especially in the environment that Spurs are now operating in by dint of valuation and recent flirtations with success.
Wish I could Winner this post a thousand times. Never read a better description of the bane of our existence
 

gio747

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The thing is, I am actually qualified to run a business like Spurs (LLB, MBA, city career and now built something that is getting big) and to say he's made a lot of mistakes is a wild rose tinted view of his management of the club. He has made errors piled upon errors, piled upon errors and it stems from his inability to delegate anything and results in missed opportunities and leaving a criminal amount of money on the table.
  • That fucking stadium that he is so proud of should never have been opened without a naming rights deal locked and loaded, I would go so far as to say it should have been being finalised before we played our last game at WHL.
  • The near misses of success, especially the CL final should have been built upon, there should have been a we will build and go again attitude but there was too much fear from the chairman to do so.
  • The inability to cut his losses on non-performing players.
  • The distinct lack of ruthlessness in anything but outgoings of key players
  • There is more of a focus on CSR than football, that comes from the top
Levy is a small, little man who thinks in small terms. He has bought his way into the big time with family money. I supported when his decisions made sense but he the quintessential Cambridge graduate, looks great on paper but often falls apart in the real world. He is incredibly out of his depth, especially in the environment that Spurs are now operating in by dint of valuation and recent flirtations with success.
His absolute refusal to accept that squads constantly need updating regardless of reputations or perceived quality. The fact he thought he knew better than everyone else around him including 3 top class managers.
 
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muffwah

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The thing is, I am actually qualified to run a business like Spurs (LLB, MBA, city career and now built something that is getting big) and to say he's made a lot of mistakes is a wild rose tinted view of his management of the club. He has made errors piled upon errors, piled upon errors and it stems from his inability to delegate anything and results in missed opportunities and leaving a criminal amount of money on the table.
  • That fucking stadium that he is so proud of should never have been opened without a naming rights deal locked and loaded, I would go so far as to say it should have been being finalised before we played our last game at WHL.
  • The near misses of success, especially the CL final should have been built upon, there should have been a we will build and go again attitude but there was too much fear from the chairman to do so.
  • The inability to cut his losses on non-performing players.
  • The distinct lack of ruthlessness in anything but outgoings of key players
  • There is more of a focus on CSR than football, that comes from the top
Levy is a small, little man who thinks in small terms. He has bought his way into the big time with family money. I supported when his decisions made sense but he the quintessential Cambridge graduate, looks great on paper but often falls apart in the real world. He is incredibly out of his depth, especially in the environment that Spurs are now operating in by dint of valuation and recent flirtations with success.
You may be qualified and I have done a bit in the city myself but I would question, as someone so well qualified, why you think you can make these judgments when you lack a lot of the information required to judge them fully.

  • Given we can't control who makes an offer on naming rights, how much the offers are and looking across the league it isn't even a common or popular approach to get a naming partner, why do you think this is definitely something the club want or should get? Do you think the board and chief commercial officer are totally simple-minded and unable to come up with this idea? Could there be other factors you are not privy to? Are there any risks/costs to having a naming partner on the stadium when hosting football and other global events?
  • Did we not attempt to build on the CL final? How much more should we have spent and where should got it from? Why didn't we do so? What would have constituted building on the CL final over and above Poch's insane last window?
  • Which offers for our players that you are aware and were acceptable to the player should Levy have accepted?
  • What does this even mean?! Completely hyperbolic, especially when you look at how poor we were at selling our first team players at the right time for years. If there is one thing I would not accuse Levy of it is lacking a ruthless streak.
  • Is that a joke? It is such obvious rubbish given football is the core business, it is where all the revenue gets sent and consumed and it is the only thing that has any brand value. I don't know how you would say this with a straight face - more football, less CSR!!
I see you've gone on to make some interesting personal comments as well, did you learn that on your MBA or are you just quoting your qualifications to make it seem like you're giving a reasoned opinion rather than just spitting bile at the club?
 

SirNiNyHotspur

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Apr 27, 2004
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The needless twenty percent price increase has finally priced me and my son out this year. First time in 35 years I won’t go at all. I’m a firefighter and the cost of living crisis has now meant I have to cut back.
im third generation spurs, my son is fourth, Daniel levy has pretty much ended that now.

that is why I dispise him
And people still defend the ****s in light of the multitude of examples of their despicable ways off and on the pitch. I have to assume anyone left supporting them has some sort of monetary gain from doing so because as far as either how they treat the fan or prioritize success in football goes they are indefensible.
 

Dougal

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Jun 4, 2004
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Levy wouldn’t be a successful business man without the unchallenged loyalty of his customer base. He’d have run this club into the ground without us. Anyone else would have walked away in droves.
 

SirNiNyHotspur

23 Years of Property, Concerts, Karts & Losing
Apr 27, 2004
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Not really sure why this is getting wtf's, I was just asking a question for a bit of clarity but hey ho it's the usual suspects who are raging at everything
And you just wtf’ed the two that wtf’ed you then go to the bother of moaning about who wtf’ed you, poor you, grow up mate. You’re always looking for a slant to take away from the real problem and that isn’t a fan ‘rage’ wtf’ing on SC… 😂 Let’s keep the focus on the real problem and not keep moaning about the fellow fan shall we?
 

anydange

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At what point does this guy disappear? Legitimately. I can’t enjoy watching Spurs knowing this absolute joker is still running our club. I really hope the home fans go hard on him next week because it’s the least he deserves.
 

vegassd

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Aug 5, 2006
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The only protest that will get through is an empty stadium.

All the time people are paying the ticket price and spending money at the shop / bars / food, you could have 10,000 people every single day outside the stadium and it wouldn't make the blindest bit of difference.
I think the problem with that is that it's never going to happen. Even during the times when we have been playing shite football people still turn up, and then as soon as the football gets good again it brings more people in. So if that is the only thing people think is going to have an impact then everybody may as well stop talking.

Personally I don't want Levy gone enough to go and make a physical statement about it, but I think I'm a long way from the extreme end of the anti-Levy spectrum. What surprises me is that there is such a huge sentiment on a site like this, but it rarely seems to manifest into much more than chanting during last season. I think change is possible (in actions, if not in personnel) if enough people start properly organising it.
 

robin09

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Even today of all days, the decision I keep thinking about, that I can’t wrap my head around, is the match day ticket price increase.

£2.5m extra over the course of a season. Not even an agents commission on a mid-sized transfer. 😄

He really cares so little about fan relations that he’d squeeze every pound out of us, just because he can say ‘other clubs are doing it too’.

It blows my mind that when there’s a risk of some good feeling on the horizon, he quickly sabotages it.

Poch’s rise, investment in the playing squad dries up.

Hires a DoF, who gets banned from working.

Convincing Conte to join, and then not buying Conte players.

New stadium built, with no sponsor for 5+ years now.

Lots of entertainment hiring the stadium, puts up ticket prices to the highest possible level.

He just seems so out of touch with what would make him popular and successful in his role.
 

ultimateloner

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At what point does this guy disappear? Legitimately. I can’t enjoy watching Spurs knowing this absolute joker is still running our club. I really hope the home fans go hard on him next week because it’s the least he deserves.
When a buyer meets his valuation.
He is under no pressure to leave.
Empty stadiums for a sufficiently long time might do the job. However this isn't likely considering the no. of tourists in London. When a ticket gets cheap enough there will be enough casual takers; such is the population density in London.
 

Huddlebone

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One thing that i am worried about is that when Levy tried to start a mob against the saudi project here in England and get all the clubs togheter to not make buisness with them. That will surely bite us in the ass for years to come. No one is wondering why one of the most "saudi esc player" Ndombele does not have a bid from there, its because of Mr Levy. Wait and see they will not give us a single penny, not a single dime because of his move, and that could become a huge fall for us against other top 10 clubs that are able to offload unwanted players for huge sums of money. Fuck of Daniel!
 

AngryBob

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The needless twenty percent price increase has finally priced me and my son out this year. First time in 35 years I won’t go at all. I’m a firefighter and the cost of living crisis has now meant I have to cut back.
im third generation spurs, my son is fourth, Daniel levy has pretty much ended that now.

that is why I dispise him

This sums it up. So sorry to hear this but for me shows the REAL story about the economics of the club and the actual direction of travel. Sacrifice our soul for a few more pennies in the bank / offshore account / family fund

For all those banging on about economics and running a business... it's a fucking football club you ghouls, fuck me what is wrong with this place. What about this chaps passion and joy and heartache and all that actual human emotion and substance that is cast aside because blah blah blah, bet profit, blah, dividends...

They don't care about us, they don't care about 'fans' they care about selling tickets, and putting on a football show / entertainment display.

(Its been an emotional day)
 

Yantino

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Apr 28, 2012
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There is nothing Daniel Levy and the rest of the board can do now that can repair the countless damage they've done or save them from the onslaught they rightly deserve from the fans.

The club is never going to be able to properly progress and compete with the elite clubs until there are wholesale changes at board level.
 

Dashy

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Aug 27, 2013
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The fact that it has been hinted that Kane would stay if he felt the club showed ambition and instead of doing that Levy sold him says everything you need to know about the club at the current time.

I'm done.
 

newbie

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The fact that it has been hinted that Kane would stay if he felt the club showed ambition and instead of doing that Levy sold him says everything you need to know about the club at the current time.

I'm done.

I think it was to late to keep Kane the damage had been done, we brought to many rubbish players and didn’t improve from 2018 ish, to many of the wrong types of manages who went against our ethos.

Jol, rednapp, porch even conte needed backing and better recruitment

Every year same old crap, we pretend to sign players string it out for a zero net spend.

Funny when relegation loomed there was suddenly money
 
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