The ousting of Daniel (COYS)

[funkycoldmedina]

I’m happy to weigh in. I’m not pro Levy as such, but consider myself quite balanced.

im gutted Kane has gone but I fully expected it. He clearly felt he had a gentleman’s agreement to go in ‘21 and was badly or not advised on how to deal with it and as a result lost a lot of credibility. He’s better advised now and in my view always intended on going when practical as he lost the trust in Levy - said Gentleman’s Agreement.

let’s keep in context - I’ve had some amazing nights over the last 10 years, CL runs, 2 title tilts, almost always in Europe - we’ve lifted from mid table to top 5 and been there consistently despite being up against clubs backed by crazy billionaires or countries or institutionally wealthy clubs like Liverpool and Man Utd with global brands. We’re up there now in revenue streams and scale of club.
We’re well set to go again- we’re in a rebuild but the difference is that we now have the resource to rebuild.

People talk about us being the 9th richest club but that doesn’t mean we have loads of cash to throw around for now - it’ll come. The club clearly doesn’t want to extend debt short term which I understand so access to cash when we’re not turning real profits coming out of Covid - it’s changing now though - that’s why we keep doing loans with obligation to defer the payment and avoid borrowing.

The Kane sale is hard to take but I have no doubt it’ll be invested back in the squad - and the fact we’ve got majority up front is huge too, it means we can spend more if we structure the incoming payments over a few years.

my main gripe is that the club/Levy just made bad decisions recently;

- 2019 buys for Poch we’re poor but Poch was backed then finally.
- hiring 2 win now managers who just didn’t fit the club or the players we had.
- the Nuno episode
- the Stelini decision
- not finding a way to tie down Kane

I don’t agree with any of these decisions but I can see a logic, albeit flawed for each. I think Levy has the right intentions but has made some terrible decisions.

we’ve gone up from mid table to top end and like a lot of teams struggling to find the right formula to get over the final hurdle.

we’re back to what we should be now and we go again.

let’s get behind the club and team again - the toxicity does us no good

Good luck

 

[spurs-r-us]

Know exactly how you feel mate: don’t get too down about it. At the end of the day this is all out of our hands and the main thing is with Ange at least the football will be entertaining.

Not too sure if the majority of our fan base are where Newcastle were with Mike Ashley but first and foremost don’t give up.

Mike Ashley bled that club dry, renamed their stadium for his tawdry company, and was happy to see them do nothing provided they stayed around 17th. When they did get relegated, he opened the wallet so they'd get promoted and the whole cycle started again. It's not a fair comparison.

Quick question re merch. If you buy a kit from Sports Direct rather than via the Spurs shop I’m assuming that’s not lining Levy’s pockets in any way? My kids love getting the new kits and I usually buy from the club shop but I’m refusing from now on. (I buy for 3 and have often got my kids home and away through the course of a season)

You'd rather line Mike Ashley's pockets than pay the club? Sports Direct have paid Spurs for the stock at wholesale prices. If you buy from them, they will buy more kits from Spurs. Spurs get less money, Ashley gets more. Is that a good result?

 

[gibbospurs]

I’m having concerns i my be related to Levy! I own a 2014 Audi a5. it’s not a bad looking thing. Done 131k miles tho. I’m lucky enough not to live in London so ulez doesn’t matter to me. Jesus, the cost of a new car is horrific. Just saying
5 door man gearbox.

 

[sundanceyid10]

Unfortunately, Levy killed that optimism with his decision on Thursday. For me, that was the final straw.

It's time for him to go.

That time was ages ago

 

[Dov67]

Levy's Betrayal of Tottenham Hotspur Reaches New Levels - World of Hotspur

Share This: I’ve always said as long as the club is moving in the right direction and showing the right ambition, I want to be part of the journey. Harry Kane If you had told someone in 2019, just after Harry Kane had made these comments, that four years later, not only would he would …...

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could have written this myself and sums up the feeling of most of the fan base right now

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Levy's Betrayal of Tottenham Hotspur Reaches New Levels - World of Hotspur

Share This: I’ve always said as long as the club is moving in the right direction and showing the right ambition, I want to be part of the journey. Harry Kane If you had told someone in 2019, just after Harry Kane had made these comments, that four years later, not only would he would …...

worldofhotspur.com

could have written this myself and sums up the feeling of most of the fan base right now

There's a LOT in there that is spot on but it lets itself down with the quote about there being no passion and choosing football because it's the biggest money spinner. Yes, he said it and yes, it's a massive indicator as to the motivation (and how he's running it backs it up really) but he said that when they bought Glasgow Rangers.

It's a shame and now I wonder if the most profitable club of all time thing is true as well. It lets itself down.

But again, there is a lot in there that is so, sadly, true.

 

[Dov67]

There's a LOT in there that is spot on but it lets itself down with the quote about there being no passion and choosing football because it's the biggest money spinner. Yes, he said it and yes, it's a massive indicator as to the motivation (and how he's running it backs it up really) but he said that when they bought Glasgow Rangers.

It's a shame and now I wonder if the most profitable club of all time thing is true as well. It lets itself down.

But again, there is a lot in there that is so, sadly, true.

Profit does not equal revenue does not equal cash flow for sure.

But can anyone have any doubts that footballing success does not appear on the top 5 list of objectives that Daniel Levy has for this club

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Profit does not equal revenue does not equal cash flow for sure.

But can anyone have any doubts that footballing success does not appear on the top 5 list of objectives that Daniel Levy has for this club

That's not what i'm saying. (and I agree with you) I'm saying if the author had got his facts right the whole thing would carry more credibility.

 

[sidford]

Levy's Betrayal of Tottenham Hotspur Reaches New Levels - World of Hotspur

Share This: I’ve always said as long as the club is moving in the right direction and showing the right ambition, I want to be part of the journey. Harry Kane If you had told someone in 2019, just after Harry Kane had made these comments, that four years later, not only would he would …...

worldofhotspur.com

could have written this myself and sums up the feeling of most of the fan base right now

That's not what i'm saying. (and I agree with you) I'm saying if the author had got his facts right the whole thing would carry more credibility.

He has previous on pieces not being accurate and on other anti levy write ups he has peddled out right lies like Enic taking huge cash out of club etc so can't read any more of his work. It is so easy to write anti levy/ENIC pieces there is no need at all to embellish or make things up.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

He has previous on pieces not being accurate and on other anti levy write ups he has peddled out right lies like Enic taking huge cash out of club etc so can't read any more of his work. It is so easy to write anti levy/ENIC pieces there is no need at all to embellish or make things up.

Yeah, exactly.

Having said that, if you read it and ignore the guilding of the lily, there's a lot that hits the spot.

 

[Dazza86]

I’m happy to weigh in. I’m not pro Levy as such, but consider myself quite balanced.

im gutted Kane has gone but I fully expected it. He clearly felt he had a gentleman’s agreement to go in ‘21 and was badly or not advised on how to deal with it and as a result lost a lot of credibility. He’s better advised now and in my view always intended on going when practical as he lost the trust in Levy - said Gentleman’s Agreement.

let’s keep in context - I’ve had some amazing nights over the last 10 years, CL runs, 2 title tilts, almost always in Europe - we’ve lifted from mid table to top 5 and been there consistently despite being up against clubs backed by crazy billionaires or countries or institutionally wealthy clubs like Liverpool and Man Utd with global brands. We’re up there now in revenue streams and scale of club.
We’re well set to go again- we’re in a rebuild but the difference is that we now have the resource to rebuild.

People talk about us being the 9th richest club but that doesn’t mean we have loads of cash to throw around for now - it’ll come. The club clearly doesn’t want to extend debt short term which I understand so access to cash when we’re not turning real profits coming out of Covid - it’s changing now though - that’s why we keep doing loans with obligation to defer the payment and avoid borrowing.

The Kane sale is hard to take but I have no doubt it’ll be invested back in the squad - and the fact we’ve got majority up front is huge too, it means we can spend more if we structure the incoming payments over a few years.

my main gripe is that the club/Levy just made bad decisions recently;

- 2019 buys for Poch we’re poor but Poch was backed then finally.
- hiring 2 win now managers who just didn’t fit the club or the players we had.
- the Nuno episode
- the Stelini decision
- not finding a way to tie down Kane

I don’t agree with any of these decisions but I can see a logic, albeit flawed for each. I think Levy has the right intentions but has made some terrible decisions.

we’ve gone up from mid table to top end and like a lot of teams struggling to find the right formula to get over the final hurdle.

we’re back to what we should be now and we go again.

let’s get behind the club and team again - the toxicity does us no good

I’d also thought the club were making balanced decisions over the years and how the stadium would be a game changer, then COVID, etc. but I think it’s becoming clear the intention isn’t and hasn’t ever been to actually win.

The boards goal is football at the top table - be that CL or a Super League. They just want the revenue that generates and that’s it. Levy even said exactly that years ago (A&C recently posted the quote) as it raises the price of the asset they purchased.

There’s always the hope that something finally kicks in and we turn into a club that is actually going for it, but there’s no evidence that’ll be the case or ever will.

I’m fed up of being patient now. The stadium opened years ago, we’ve regressed and just sold an absolutely elite striker that we’d searched years for before we got lucky with him.

I want Tottenham to win and be a team in search of perfection. This ownership don’t want the same things - even if it looked like that might be the case for a while - and I think this board are on borrowed time with an increasingly larger part of our fanbase.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

I say this tongue in cheek, but remember when anyone dissenting against Levy was told to 'be careful what you wish for'

haha

 

[floydiohead]

I’d also thought the club were making balanced decisions over the years and how the stadium would be a game changer, then COVID, etc. but I think it’s becoming clear the intention isn’t and hasn’t ever been to actually win.

The boards goal is football at the top table - be that CL or a Super League. They just want the revenue that generates and that’s it. Levy even said exactly that years ago (A&C recently posted the quote) as it raises the price of the asset they purchased.

There’s always the hope that something finally kicks in and we turn into a club that is actually going for it, but there’s no evidence that’ll be the case or ever will.

I’m fed up of being patient now. The stadium opened years ago, we’ve regressed and just sold an absolutely elite striker that we’d searched years for before we got lucky with him.

I want Tottenham to win and be a team in search of perfection. This ownership don’t want the same things - even if it looked like that might be the case for a while - and I think this board are on borrowed time with an increasingly larger part of our fanbase.

Could not be more bang on. Ironically the opening of the stadium was the beginning of the end for me (though I didn't quite know it at that time).

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

If you could be Daniel Levy for just one day, and do just one thing, what would it be?

Other than giving Snow White a right good seeing to

 

[G Ron]

If you could be Daniel Levy for just one day, and do just one thing, what would it be?

Other than giving Snow White a right good seeing to

Sign Harry Kane

 

[Albertbarich]

If you could be Daniel Levy for just one day, and do just one thing, what would it be?

Other than giving Snow White a right good seeing to

Sell the club !

 

[Liamyid28]

Build the cheese room!

 

[Tottenhamboy85]

If you could be Daniel Levy for just one day, and do just one thing, what would it be?

Other than giving Snow White a right good seeing to

Sell up

 

[JacoZA]

If you could be Daniel Levy for just one day, and do just one thing, what would it be?

Other than giving Snow White a right good seeing to

Create an Innovation/R&D unit whose sole focus would be to continuously find ways in which anything related to on-field performance could be done 1% better.

What can be changed to improve player nutrition by 1%? How can injuries be reduced by 1%? How can scouting processes be adjusted to identify youth talent 1% more accurately? What could be done to reduce goals conceded at home by 1%?

I would give this department an annual budget equal to the mean transfer value of an average premier league player.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Create an Innovation/R&D unit whose sole focus would be to continuously find ways in which anything related to on-field performance could be done 1% better.

What can be changed to improve player nutrition by 1%? How can injuries be reduced by 1%? How can scouting processes be adjusted to identify youth talent 1% more accurately? What could be done to reduce goals conceded at home by 1%?

I would give this department an annual budget equal to the mean transfer value of an average premier league player.

I don't know what to say