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tommythetank

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Is anyone else a bit frustrated about our August results? I wonder how much we'll regret pissing about in the close season for commercial gain if we miss out on the title by 3/4 points
 

Cavehillspur

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Obviously a lot can happen in the season. The point is if we'd have had a proper close/pre season we would be looking even stronger imo. Something we may regret and something we can correct in the future
No point on dwelling on it now with us sat pretty in 2nd place -just enjoy the ride.

Every team drops points they feel they shouldn't have.
 

tommythetank

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No point on dwelling on it now with us sat pretty in 2nd place -just enjoy the ride.

Every team drops points they feel they shouldn't have.
Of course we can't change it now but the fact that we are once again going one a close season tour doesn't fill me with confidence. Playing friendlies 3 days before the start of the season could bite us on the arse. We need to learn from these lessons. Of course I'm enjoying the ride as much as anybody. This is the best spurs side of my 21 year lifetime
 

@Bobby__Lucky

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Obviously a lot can happen in the season. The point is if we'd have had a proper close/pre season we would be looking even stronger imo. Something we may regret and something we can correct in the future


It could also mean that we finish the strongest. Man U seemed to used to do this its almost as if we start the season half fit and then grow. Worth noting that Kane didnt score for the first what? 8 games, then close to a goal a game thereafter. I have a sneaky feeling we will finish very very strongly.
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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This is exactly what I said in the race for 4th thread about a month ago. That if we counted out results since mid-Sep we would have the best trend line (points per game). That was before the Leicester game of course.

In my onion if we can make up points on Leicester this weekend and keep playing as we are then we will be champions in May

Since sept 14, spurs and leicester both have 42 points, we have +26 goals, leicester are +16

http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/premier-league/2015-2016/custom-table

These stats back up what we've seen from the team and what we've seen from our top 4 rivals in the last few months. Our trajectory looks good in terms of form, team unity and fitness. Injuries, the biggest unpredictable, may have a say going forward, for all teams. If we avoid key injuries, we'll be right there or thereabouts in the title race IMO! Regardless, we've had a breakthrough season wherever we finish, even if we slip out of the top 4, which I doubt!

You don't win the league based on a snippet of a season.
Fact is we DID play games between August and September and we didn't do brilliantly.
There's no prizes for having the best September to May form.
 

wlhatwhl

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My fear is that Leicester are going to be this season's equivalent of Alf Ramsey's 1962 team who won the League title having just been promoted. Spurs lost both games to them and finished second. If they'd won either of those two games, they'd have won the Double for a second successive season.

Teams failed to adapt to Ramsey's tactics and the way Ipswich played. It's said that Bill Nicholson wanted to change the Spurs' system when facing Ipswich but the players were confident in how they played and thought they would win.

At the start of the following season Nicholson changed the system for the Charity Shield game and Spurs won 5-1 at Portman Road. That season Ipswich struggled in the lower half of the table and a year later were relegated.

Could the same thing happen this year?
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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My fear is that Leicester are going to be this season's equivalent of Alf Ramsey's 1962 team who won the League title having just been promoted. Spurs lost both games to them and finished second. If they'd won either of those two games, they'd have won the Double for a second successive season.

Teams failed to adapt to Ramsey's tactics and the way Ipswich played. It's said that Bill Nicholson wanted to change the Spurs' system when facing Ipswich but the players were confident in how they played and thought they would win.

At the start of the following season Nicholson changed the system for the Charity Shield game and Spurs won 5-1 at Portman Road. That season Ipswich struggled in the lower half of the table and a year later were relegated.

Could the same thing happen this year?
Leicester will have to face rubbish teams in the closing stages of the season that will have no desire to get forward and attack them. That's when they'll face a problem. They won't be able to counter attack in numbers as the opposition won't leave their own half.
Whereas city, arse and us dominate those games forcing the teams into mistakes leading to chances, Leicester might (hopefully) run out of ideas and draw rather than win.
Pundits think/thought they'd drop points against the bigger teams but I think they'll be found out by less ambitious sides. Of which there are plenty.
 

Stamford

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Leicester will have to face rubbish teams in the closing stages of the season that will have no desire to get forward and attack them. That's when they'll face a problem. They won't be able to counter attack in numbers as the opposition won't leave their own half.
Whereas city, arse and us dominate those games forcing the teams into mistakes leading to chances, Leicester might (hopefully) run out of ideas and draw rather than win.
Pundits think/thought they'd drop points against the bigger teams but I think they'll be found out by less ambitious sides. Of which there are plenty.

Surely those rubbish teams will need to win to stay up
 

MightySpurs

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Is anyone else a bit frustrated about our August results? I wonder how much we'll regret pissing about in the close season for commercial gain if we miss out on the title by 3/4 points

I for one is just amazed of this fairytale of a season we are having. Who can honestly say they expected us to be where we are now?

I was setteling for a 5-6th place in the summer, and whatever happens from now on forward- I will still be delighted- if we keep up our good fotball.

I love how this unit of players and staff is behaving on and off field, and could't be more proud of these sexy bastards.

We have absolutely NO pressure to win the damn thing, so I just sit back and enjoy this fantastic ride our club is giving us.
 

Lighty64

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Win our next 3 league games and I think we will do it :playful:

Wrapping up the title in the penultimate game of the season at home to Poch's former club would be delightful :D

I would say next 4 would make me feel like it, with the Goons being 1 of those matches

and would be a lot happier doing it at home to Southampton or away to Chelsea, than have it all or nothing v Newcastle. don't think my heart could survive a last day DRAMA.
 

spursram

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My fear is that Leicester are going to be this season's equivalent of Alf Ramsey's 1962 team who won the League title having just been promoted. Spurs lost both games to them and finished second. If they'd won either of those two games, they'd have won the Double for a second successive season.

Teams failed to adapt to Ramsey's tactics and the way Ipswich played. It's said that Bill Nicholson wanted to change the Spurs' system when facing Ipswich but the players were confident in how they played and thought they would win.

At the start of the following season Nicholson changed the system for the Charity Shield game and Spurs won 5-1 at Portman Road. That season Ipswich struggled in the lower half of the table and a year later were relegated.

Could the same thing happen this year?
Not sure you are right about us winning the league if we had gotten 1 victory over Ipswich. It was 2 points for a win and they had a better goal difference.

Maybe I've missed something.

Edit: I note Chelsea got relegated that season!:)
 
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Lighty64

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I for one is just amazed of this fairytale of a season we are having. Who can honestly say they expected us to be where we are now?

I was setteling for a 5-6th place in the summer, and whatever happens from now on forward- I will still be delighted- if we keep up our good fotball.

I love how this unit of players and staff is behaving on and off field, and could't be more proud of these sexy bastards.

We have absolutely NO pressure to win the damn thing, so I just sit back and enjoy this fantastic ride our club is giving us.

I think this is why Leicester are doing so well, even with 5pt lead they don't feel the pressure as even if they finished 4th or even 5th they will be seen as winners by their fans and some of the media
 

Lo Amo Speroni

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One thing this thread shows is that Brendan Rogers was right, if you spend a £100m you should be challenging for the title ;)
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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Surely those rubbish teams will need to win to stay up
They can't all stay up and if they could just win they wouldn't be down there. Ordinarily they'd have gone out and had a go at Leicester but now they'll deploy the same tactics they do against us. And we're only now learning how to break them down.
 

wlhatwhl

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Not sure you are right about us winning the league if we had gotten 1 victory over Ipswich. It was 2 points for a win and they had a better goal difference.

Maybe I've missed something.

Edit: I note Chelsea got relegated that season!:)

It was goal average in those days and Spurs was better by a mere fraction.
 
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