The Summer Transfer Window POST MORTEM THREAD

[blackburn]

Personally I though Grealish was worth signing. I really like the look of him and for the money it seemed we were willing to pay. I'd have had him groomed for a CM role, with the potential to possible play further forward if he started adding goals and assists to his game.

Aside from him I liked the look of Lobotka from what I saw on YouTube but his signing would have hindered Skipp, who I happen to rate a lot for a kid of just 17 years of age.

Replacing the Moose is so difficult, the only positive out of it is it gives Winksy a season to well and truly make that position his own.

Of all the others you highlighted, I ain't sure I'd have taken any of them. NDombele does it in a trash league and is yet to win an international cap I believe (I could be wrong on that one, I'm not 100% sure as it's a little early in the day), Fekir, even Liverpool baulked at the inflated fee they stuck on his head after they grew concerned about a knee injury he had from the past, Kovacic never left on a permanent and his loan deal has no obligation or view to go permanent so Madrid clearly don't want to sell and Brozovic I have no idea about but what's he going to cost you if he is the real deal &a playing for Inter Milan when they're trying to sign the whole Croatian national team?

I like Grealish, I wanted him at Spurs and I think £30m-£35m tops would have been what I'd have gone to but that's far more than he's worth, I just think he's got something a little bit flamboyant and special that don't grow on trees

Just spent 5 minutes looking at Skipp on youtube, I'm sure we'll see him at some stage this season, looks a potentially top player.

 

[ToDarrenIsToDo]

Just spent 5 minutes looking at Skipp on youtube, I'm sure we'll see him at some stage this season, looks a potentially top player.

He could go either way it's difficult to tell but what I saw of him last year in the youth games against u23 opposition and how he fared in the preseason friendlies I think he's worth keeping an eye on. If it clicks for him he's fearless, has a great first touch, uses his body well and has an ability to stride past players when he sees a gap worth exploiting. It wouldn't surprise me to see him play a couple of League Cup games here and there this time around

 

[sausage]

I like Grealish, I wanted him at Spurs and I think £30m-£35m tops would have been what I'd have gone to but that's far more than he's worth, I just think he's got something a little bit flamboyant and special that don't grow on trees

I think this is partially the issue. You can only pay so much for a player until it becomes a problem.

Would Sissoko get as much stick as he does if he cost £7m? Same with Soldado, Lamela, Janssen etc.

Rumor has it that Villa finally quoted us £50m. Imagine if we'd have baulked, he had a few bad games settling in, didn't immediately get into the team etc - people would be complaining about how we should have got Zaha or Martial instead.

If Jack comes in, it needs to be at a "normal" value so as to allow him time and so on. Buying him for pressure money is as worse than not buying him at all.

I just feel sorry for him as it sounds like Villa screwed him over

 

[Ghost Hardware]

I know it's been mentioned in here already, but should we be wanting a DoF again? Assuming it would be a good one.

 

[ToDarrenIsToDo]

I think this is partially the issue. You can only pay so much for a player until it becomes a problem.

Would Sissoko get as much stick as he does if he cost £7m? Same with Soldado, Lamela, Janssen etc.

Rumor has it that Villa finally quoted us £50m. Imagine if we'd have baulked, he had a few bad games settling in, didn't immediately get into the team etc - people would be complaining about how we should have got Zaha or Martial instead.

If Jack comes in, it needs to be at a "normal" value so as to allow him time and so on. Buying him for pressure money is as worse than not buying him at all.

I just feel sorry for him as it sounds like Villa screwed him over

The saving grace is the £50m quoted is true is that he has two years left to run on his current deal and that Villas FFP situation still exists. He's still got enough time to get his move to Spurs with us seemingly holding fire on investing in someone else.

If that's because we ran out of time, decided to wait for him, had no other worthwhile alternatives or just felt it best sticking with what we've got who knows, all I know is because of our activity after the deal was snubbed, the door is still slightly ajar for us and him if he shows himself to be the real deal.

The price of players needs to be right, if it isn't you run the risk of it all unraveling around you. Just look at the Pogba unrest rumours over what Alexis is getting paid to see that a spike away from your norm can cause a hiccup in harmony and proceedings. It also does serious damage to a kid who isn't ready to take on the responsibiity of a £50m fee

 

[YidoCraig]

Season starts tomorrow, on a brighter note.

Perhaps let the results do the talking, I am just as frustrated, but flashbacks to the spending of the Bale money are keeping me sane in our current situation.

 

[ohtottenham!]

Personally I though Grealish was worth signing. I really like the look of him and for the money it seemed we were willing to pay. I'd have had him groomed for a CM role, with the potential to possible play further forward if he started adding goals and assists to his game.

Aside from him I liked the look of Lobotka from what I saw on YouTube but his signing would have hindered Skipp, who I happen to rate a lot for a kid of just 17 years of age.

Replacing the Moose is so difficult, the only positive out of it is it gives Winksy a season to well and truly make that position his own.

Of all the others you highlighted, I ain't sure I'd have taken any of them. NDombele does it in a trash league and is yet to win an international cap I believe (I could be wrong on that one, I'm not 100% sure as it's a little early in the day), Fekir, even Liverpool haulier at the inflated fee they stuck on his head after they grew concerned about a knee injury he had from the past, Kovacic never left on a permanent and his loan deal has no obligation or view to go permanent so Madrid clearly don't want to sell and Brozovic I have no idea about but what's he going to cost you if he is the real deal &a playing for Inter Milan when they're trying to sign the whole Croatian national team?

I like Grealish, I wanted him at Spurs and I think £30m-£35m tops would have been what I'd have gone to but that's far more than he's worth, I just think he's got something a little bit flamboyant and special that don't grow on trees

Mate, Dembele has fitness issues and has had for a while. Wanyama the same. Even when they're fit, we can do with more dynamic movement in the middle of the park. And young Winks has had a long term injury.

There were plenty of footballing and fitness issues that highlighted the need for a creative and solid CM addition, maybe 2. I'd have loved Kovacic on a loan deal, even if we didn't buy, not sure why you wouldn't. Lobotka, more than anyone in my opinion, would have been a great signing.

 

[Hoopspur]

Clearly time to reign in the expectations of ourselves. No salt required. Best not to interact with the ITK thread at all if you are going to get angry. Can’t believe it actually affects my mood. I can’t blame the club, Levy or the manager for that - I blame myself, and also some of the things said.

Not going to say anymore as it would be damaging.

 

[mckenz]

Personally I though Grealish was worth signing. I really like the look of him and for the money it seemed we were willing to pay. I'd have had him groomed for a CM role, with the potential to possible play further forward if he started adding goals and assists to his game.

Aside from him I liked the look of Lobotka from what I saw on YouTube but his signing would have hindered Skipp, who I happen to rate a lot for a kid of just 17 years of age.

Replacing the Moose is so difficult, the only positive out of it is it gives Winksy a season to well and truly make that position his own.

Of all the others you highlighted, I ain't sure I'd have taken any of them. NDombele does it in a trash league and is yet to win an international cap I believe (I could be wrong on that one, I'm not 100% sure as it's a little early in the day), Fekir, even Liverpool baulked at the inflated fee they stuck on his head after they grew concerned about a knee injury he had from the past, Kovacic never left on a permanent and his loan deal has no obligation or view to go permanent so Madrid clearly don't want to sell and Brozovic I have no idea about but what's he going to cost you if he is the real deal &a playing for Inter Milan when they're trying to sign the whole Croatian national team?

I like Grealish, I wanted him at Spurs and I think £30m-£35m tops would have been what I'd have gone to but that's far more than he's worth, I just think he's got something a little bit flamboyant and special that don't grow on trees

To add to this I think that Chelsea only got Kovacic because they sold them their long term no1 goalkeeper and he was part of the deal. It works for them, they get another year out of Modric and keep Kovacic happy and playing. Im not sure they would have sold to anyone as they seem to rate him.

NDombele was a gamble, and an expensive one.

 

[Metalhead]

I know it's been mentioned in here already, but should we be wanting a DoF again? Assuming it would be a good one.

I'm not sure whether Poch would like it though after they had agreed the new job structure. Also, it doesn't matter who is DoF, if Levy doesn't agree with the decision then that's that.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Add this to the info a couple of days back about Levy not being unwilling to spend the money. Has this week been a Poch powerplay?

Top targets or youth. Levy can take the flak if it all falls down. Wonder if Poch shut some potential deals down today. Also Toby, Rose, Dembele staying today, was that Poch too? Not wanting a weaker squad.

Someone contact BBLG, we need some serious spin to cheer us up after that.

I ain’t spinning nuttin! You lot had me fighting the good fight all day yesterday trying to inject good into your lives while you were all raging and you crucified me. I’m spurscommunity’s version of Jesus!

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Talk of Pochettino and Levy not talking very worrying. These are the two men responsible for driving our club forward and it sounds like they were both behaving like teenage girls who liked the same spotty faced skinny jeaned stupid haircut boy.

 

[Gb160]

@ShaunL84 let us know you're ok buddy?

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Anyway, I’m sure Pochettino will feel better when he goes back to his fucking beautiful mansion in Hadley Wood and dives into his swimming pool of money Scrooge McDuck style.

If anything, the stress levy has caused him has done him some good, did you see him in the presser? Looking far more streamlined and svelte. Levy should market that- the levy diet: lose the pounds faster than I lost my hair and without spending a penny!

 

[LeParisien]

NDombele was a gamble, and an expensive one.

And @ToDarrenIsToDo


That is not the view in France. Ndombele is a real talent who will have the ability to play for one of the elite teàms. More forward passes (10m+) than anyone else in the top 5 leagues and not afraid to get stuck in. Monchi at Roma wants him - he’s turned down PSG this summer who were desperate to get hold of him.

Darren: He’s 21 years old. Who cares if he couldn’t get into the World Cup winners squad. Does that make Laporte, Martial, Coman, Lacazette etc trash?

Every single one of France’s word cup squad midfield would get into ours ?

If I have a regret it’s that we weren’t able to push the boat out and get ndombele.

 

[ToDarrenIsToDo]

Mate, Dembele has fitness issues and has had for a while. Wanyama the same. Even when they're fit, we can do with more dynamic movement in the middle of the park. And young Winks has had a long term injury.

There were plenty of footballing and fitness issues that highlighted the need for a creative and solid CM addition, maybe 2. I'd have loved Kovacic on a loan deal, even if we didn't buy, not sure why you wouldn't. Lobotka, more than anyone in my opinion, would have been a great signing.

Kovacic I don't think we'd have got, I think he was thrown in as a sweetener for Courtois and Lobotka I'm with you onnas I really like him but his release fee would have been our record spent. It's a lot tougher tying to secure genuine class and it wouldn't surprise me if we were in for Lobotka as an alternative but having him as the player that cost more than any player in Tottenhams history when apparently Southampton had been bidding for him raises question marks about if he is up to the task. It's a disappointing window but for where we are now I'd much rather try for the heavyweight than bloat out our already busting at the seems nonHG quotas. A big shame we couldn't pull something out the hat but all isn't lost, the squads still together and the money (cough cough) is supposedly still there

 

[feet01]

what happened to Zaha? Will we ever find out?
ITK's were saying we had a fee agreed and offered him better wages than Chelsea...but then we just got 'dead'.
Did it ever get confirmed what happened here???

 

[ToDarrenIsToDo]

And @ToDarrenIsToDo


That is not the view in France. Ndombele is a real talent who will have the ability to play for one of the elite teàms. More forward passes (10m+) than anyone else in the top 5 leagues and not afraid to get stuck in. Monchi at Roma wants him - he’s turned down PSG this summer who were desperate to get hold of him.

Darren: He’s 21 years old. Who cares if he couldn’t get into the World Cup winners squad. Does that make Laporte, Martial, Coman, Lacazette etc trash?

Every single one of France’s word cup squad midfield would get into ours ?

If I have a regret it’s that we weren’t able to push the boat out and get ndombele.

Don't get me wrong from what I've seen on his YouTube clips he's an extremely exciting young player who I'm sure was on our radar but we haven't had the best of times buying from the French leagues and doing it against Lorient is different to locking horns against the likes of Liverpool, Chelsea and these days Leicester & Everton etc.

For the money being touted I think he needs to prove himself for another season or so

 

[ToDarrenIsToDo]

And @ToDarrenIsToDo


That is not the view in France. Ndombele is a real talent who will have the ability to play for one of the elite teàms. More forward passes (10m+) than anyone else in the top 5 leagues and not afraid to get stuck in. Monchi at Roma wants him - he’s turned down PSG this summer who were desperate to get hold of him.

Darren: He’s 21 years old. Who cares if he couldn’t get into the World Cup winners squad. Does that make Laporte, Martial, Coman, Lacazette etc trash?

Every single one of France’s word cup squad midfield would get into ours ?

If I have a regret it’s that we weren’t able to push the boat out and get ndombele.

Ps, for the record I'd have probably gone to the same I'd have gone to for Grealish. Any more just makes it difficult for the kid to play with freedom and no fear of making a mistake at such a young age. I saw £53m being mentioned on a website somewhere, that's far too much

 

[wirE]

I'm a bit baffled that we didn't manage to sign Grealish. Other than that, I'm happy that none of our top players ended up at a rival