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Absolutely incredible final. Rafa coming from 2 sets to love down in over 5hrs on court has just an insane will to win.
 

Guernman

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Rafa is just unbelievable. I've never known a sportsman with that degree of mental strength. He is a born fighter.
 

ajspurs

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Just watched this post match conference from Medvedev, have to say it was such a good watch and it actually made me feel quite sorry for him. Basically, for anyone who won't want to watch it all, he tells a story about how he as a kid had such big dreams for his future in tennis and how certain things inspired him, but today made him rethink those dreams and he feels he may just continue tennis for himself and to support his family and those around him. This isn't because he's sad from just the loss though, it was pretty much due to the disrespect of the Australian crowd in between points and such, probably throughout the whole tournament as he'd voiced his annoyance in prior rounds.

 

Arnoldtoo

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Just watched this post match conference from Medvedev, have to say it was such a good watch and it actually made me feel quite sorry for him. Basically, for anyone who won't want to watch it all, he tells a story about how he as a kid had such big dreams for his future in tennis and how certain things inspired him, but today made him rethink those dreams and he feels he may just continue tennis for himself and to support his family and those around him. This isn't because he's sad from just the loss though, it was pretty much due to the disrespect of the Australian crowd in between points and such, probably throughout the whole tournament as he'd voiced his annoyance in prior rounds.



I'll admit it came across to me as a bit of a hissy fit, and I think he will rethink his rethink, once he has time to, well, think.

He's played one of the most popular players in the world trying to get the 21st major and break the log-jam; what does he expect?

In the future he has to aim to be the one that they're all shouting for, and this isn't the way to do it.

I've only ever played one match where the crowd were overwhelmingly against me - 'us' actually, as it was doubles - and it's a bad experience. So an understandable reaction, but like I say, he'd do better to win the crowds round rather than alienate them.
 

aliyid

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I'll admit it came across to me as a bit of a hissy fit, and I think he will rethink his rethink, once he has time to, well, think.

He's played one of the most popular players in the world trying to get the 21st major and break the log-jam; what does he expect?

In the future he has to aim to be the one that they're all shouting for, and this isn't the way to do it.

I've only ever played one match where the crowd were overwhelmingly against me - 'us' actually, as it was doubles - and it's a bad experience. So an understandable reaction, but like I say, he'd do better to win the crowds round rather than alienate them.

That press conference for me was him almost saying that he's never going to be a fan favourite and has to play more cynically for himself rather than trying to entertain the crowd. He strikes me as being quite similar to Djokovic where he doesn't understand why the crowd don't love him. Whereas from the outside you can see that he doesn't encourage the crowd or have any interaction / showmanship about his game (plus lets face it nobody would have been a crowd favourite against Rafa coming back from 2 sets down in a slam final like that).

It's a strange one, I quite liked playing away with the crowd against me as it always helped to get my mind into 'the zone'. A few teammates would react badly when the home crowd celebrated our bad luck but you have to rise above it and use it to push you on then smile back as you taste their sweet grudging "congratulations" after the game.
 

ajspurs

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I'll admit it came across to me as a bit of a hissy fit, and I think he will rethink his rethink, once he has time to, well, think.

He's played one of the most popular players in the world trying to get the 21st major and break the log-jam; what does he expect?

In the future he has to aim to be the one that they're all shouting for, and this isn't the way to do it.

I've only ever played one match where the crowd were overwhelmingly against me - 'us' actually, as it was doubles - and it's a bad experience. So an understandable reaction, but like I say, he'd do better to win the crowds round rather than alienate them.

Yeah I'm not sure really. I don't know if it's all just gotten to him, the crowd not being very supportive of him that is, or if it's genuinely just the nature of the support against him, with the noise in between serves for example is what irks him more than anything else. Her certainly doesn't come across as one who cares about fans thoughts too much and he'd have to be massively deluded and naive to think his actions in particular wouldn't reflect negatively in any way with regards to the crowds perception of him, and I mean by his gestures towards crowds and certain comments he makes. Although despite ones character I'm sure it's something that can end up taking it's toll.

To me he just went a long-winded way to try to express the difference between support (or lack of) and disrespect. Maybe it is just sour grapes though, it's hard to tell with a person such as him.
 

ajspurs

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Zverev kicked out of the Acapulco tournament - ****

Deservedly so. It's the way he hit the chair like he really wanted to hit the umpire and at the very least scare him. Shame for the tournament, but absolutely the right call.
 

Arnoldtoo

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Rafa won the Mexican Open yesterday (beating Cam Norrie 4 & 4) and is now that tournament's youngest and oldest winner. :)
 

aliyid

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Understand the desire to add consistency to the majors but why not just introduce a standard 5th set tie-break. Why have a whole new breaker to 10 instead of the standard 7 :cautious:

 

Arnoldtoo

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Understand the desire to add consistency to the majors but why not just introduce a standard 5th set tie-break. Why have a whole new breaker to 10 instead of the standard 7 :cautious:


Presumably further to distinguish them from 'ordinary' tournaments, despite the men already playing 5 sets.
 

Marty

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Two months after winning her home slam too, but good for her for prioritising herself and her own wellbeing.
 
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