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DelboySpurs

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Thks D75 - yes that was a low attendance for a chance of a great Stadium visit ... to be honest I would have gone with the wife had we lived nearer to London. Was a beatiful day - maybe 12 am KO was too early !
 

garyhopkins

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Thks D75 - yes that was a low attendance for a chance of a great Stadium visit ... to be honest I would have gone with the wife had we lived nearer to London. Was a beatiful day - maybe 12 am KO was too early !
Like you, I would have gone if I lived near. However, we know this team is ok but never gonna get you too excited and the performance was as expected. As such I feel the crowd was very good for a 12 o'clock kick off against an almost relegated Leicester.
 

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Brief bit (and weird, Delboy spurs are you replying to yourself or has someone blocked me? could be possible I guess, haha) - I enjoyed the game, we were sat in front of a group who had a guy who was great at getting the crowd going - including the two young kids in front of us. I'll say it again, but we need songs. If we had songs for our players I think there'd be more noise - although it was a fairly noisy game than at The Hive.

It felt like yet again we couldn't finish, though we had plenty of action in their goal - it was like it wasn't going to happen for a while, frustrating.

I'm delighted with where we've finished, and hopefully with more strengthening we'll challenge the dominant teams (I'm not including Manchester United in there). It was a good game, good attendance and watching the end of season awards took me back to happy times watching it with the men's - though apparently there are loads of people pressuring the women asking for shirts, shorts, boots... (and they're earning a fraction of what the men earn, not all will have sponsorship deals, it's kind of odd... I wouldn't - besides, smelly feet).

Anyway, found this blog recently, my head is too tired to think straight and offer any insightful thoughts (though it could be said I don't do that anyway!!) https://spurswomen.uk/blog/
 

DelboySpurs

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Brief bit (and weird, Delboy spurs are you replying to yourself or has someone blocked me? could be possible I guess, haha) - I enjoyed the game, we were sat in front of a group who had a guy who was great at getting the crowd going - including the two young kids in front of us. I'll say it again, but we need songs. If we had songs for our players I think there'd be more noise - although it was a fairly noisy game than at The Hive.

It felt like yet again we couldn't finish, though we had plenty of action in their goal - it was like it wasn't going to happen for a while, frustrating.

I'm delighted with where we've finished, and hopefully with more strengthening we'll challenge the dominant teams (I'm not including Manchester United in there). It was a good game, good attendance and watching the end of season awards took me back to happy times watching it with the men's - though apparently there are loads of people pressuring the women asking for shirts, shorts, boots... (and they're earning a fraction of what the men earn, not all will have sponsorship deals, it's kind of odd... I wouldn't - besides, smelly feet).

Anyway, found this blog recently, my head is too tired to think straight and offer any insightful thoughts (though it could be said I don't do that anyway!!) https://spurswomen.uk/blog/
Thks spoddams .. I would never block you .. don't know how to anyhow. If I have please let me know and I will look into it and get it unblocked (again if I knew how)
RS has to move these poor-performing players on otherwise it will be the same next season .. there is no way we will get 4th with a 10-24 point and 22-50 goal gap - not without 4-5 top drawer frontline players. No way. I've named the ones that I think are holding us back in previous posts and I stick to that as they did it again on Sunday.
Interesting in what you say about songs when you look back at the Chelski game at theirs .. it was too much IMHO and fronted by a big male group no doubt. Guess families with young girls are not like that and that's OK as well. THFC could make chants from the loudspeakers if they wanted to up the atmo.
As for the freebies .. I agree these ladies shouldn't be pressured to give stuff away and the stewards should be on that big time
 

spoddams

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@DelboySpurs - I know you haven't - was just worried as it looked like you were replying to yourself on the last page :)

I remember from a couple of years ago... there were some good ones... 'Anna, Anna Anna, Anna Anna, Anna Anna Filbey, Hannah Hannah Hannah, Hannah Hannah, Hannah Hannah Godfrey" (to No Limit by 2 Unlimited) which was always popular...

There were loads in fact, led by a hardcore of supporters though a lot of those players have moved on now and it feels like there aren't songs for our current ones. Ha, maybe I should try... Zadorksy could be interesting... Ash Nev probably quite easy... hmmm... I'm not imaginative enough :)
 

DelboySpurs

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Thks for the blog spoddams .. I have saved that off for extra reading. They covered the Arsenal report very well and highlighted the difference between them and us. It is not right though that THFC has contracts in the region of relegated Birmingham .. almost a disgrace to read that and hope that has been sorted out by now - so so much is kept off the media and hard to know unless players themselves spill the beans and embarrass the decision-makers. What 8-10 Mill would do for this team would be groundbreaking and that should be offered from the back pockets of Levy and Lewis just for the brand advertisement alonge
 

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Thks for the blog spoddams .. I have saved that off for extra reading. They covered the Arsenal report very well and highlighted the difference between them and us. It is not right though that THFC has contracts in the region of relegated Birmingham .. almost a disgrace to read that and hope that has been sorted out by now - so so much is kept off the media and hard to know unless players themselves spill the beans and embarrass the decision-makers. What 8-10 Mill would do for this team would be groundbreaking and that should be offered from the back pockets of Levy and Lewis just for the brand advertisement alonge
Do they have contracts at Birmingham level? the only evidence of that I remember was an article focusing on wages 2 seasons ago when we were newly promoted.
 

Ben1

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Thks Ben for the red crosses ... I've obviously upset you again.
Never upset, it's just a bit deluded and negative constantly. You seem to hate everything about the team and happily dismiss good stuff like the manager, because you expected more (unrealistic aims).

Another message you said 'ben wants small tweaks and little will change' effectively. I suggested 6 signings, that is not a little tweak. You seem to want the whole squad uprooting, which will end in disaster, it always has in WSL, but hey ho.

Then again you suggested we sign Miedema, Martens, Hederberg and Hansen a few weeks back, so clearly a bit short of reality.
 

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If we're going to sign players from Arsenal we should try and sign Nikita Parris who can't be happy playing 5-10 mins at the end of games here and there. She would immediately be a starter for us, maybe we could also go for Ellen White who seems to have lost her starting spot to Shaw. But we probably don't pay anywhere near the wages of what city pay. Got no idea how the transfers work in the wsl tbh. But a few good attackers could really transform the team.
 

garyhopkins

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Brief bit (and weird, Delboy spurs are you replying to yourself or has someone blocked me? could be possible I guess, haha)
I wouldn't be surprised if Delboy does talk to himself a lot cos there's not many that come on this thread!
 

garyhopkins

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If we're going to sign players from Arsenal we should try and sign Nikita Parris who can't be happy playing 5-10 mins at the end of games here and there. She would immediately be a starter for us, maybe we could also go for Ellen White who seems to have lost her starting spot to Shaw. But we probably don't pay anywhere near the wages of what city pay. Got no idea how the transfers work in the wsl tbh. But a few good attackers could really transform the team.
Cracking shout. I know it's unlikely but having Parris and White upfront with a couple of creative additions would transform the team. As Ben says we probably need 6 additions to the squad but 2 or 3 of the Parris/White quality would immediately improve our firepower - the area we all realize we need to improve significantly.
 

DelboySpurs

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Do they have contracts at Birmingham level? the only evidence of that I remember was an article focusing on wages 2 seasons ago when we were newly promoted.
It was mentioned in the blog report that spoddams shared so they must have got it from somewhere Ben (these reporters always do report on the warts if they find any) ... you obviously know more than me thats for sure .. I get the impression you are maybe closer to the team/club then u make out.
You are very knowlegeable and even though we maybe dont see eye to eye I do respect your comments and learn much from them.
 

garyhopkins

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It was mentioned in the blog report that spoddams shared so they must have got it from somewhere Ben (these reporters always do report on the warts if they find any) ... you obviously know more than me thats for sure .. I get the impression you are maybe closer to the team/club then u make out.
You are very knowlegeable and even though we maybe dont see eye to eye I do respect your comments and learn much from them.
I get the feeing that they are paid what they are worth. I have always been astonished at how poor some players are at shooting and that's in the mens game. As professionals I'd hope they'd have the dedication of a Son/Kane type and do extra time to improve poor aspects of their game.

The most frustrating thing about the Women's team has been the quality of their shooting. I really can't believe that they spend enough time on it and I find it hard to believe that they are unable to improve.

I guess we need to pay more to get better players, but it would be nice to see someone we already have improve their finishing.
 

DelboySpurs

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I get the feeing that they are paid what they are worth. I have always been astonished at how poor some players are at shooting and that's in the mens game. As professionals I'd hope they'd have the dedication of a Son/Kane type and do extra time to improve poor aspects of their game.

The most frustrating thing about the Women's team has been the quality of their shooting. I really can't believe that they spend enough time on it and I find it hard to believe that they are unable to improve.

I guess we need to pay more to get better players, but it would be nice to see someone we already have improve their finishing.
100% agree - When you watch the training vid's - very little is shown on target shooting bar the small goal games (accept they are only a snapshot). Maybe Kane and Son should be asked to come give them a morning session every week next season. There was also so much poor passing on Sunday and some passes were often in panic mode and hit far too hard and often behind the running player and that also needs to be worked on for next season. Still do not understand why she did not use the fresh players for the last 15 minutes even if there was a risk of losing a goal - we may actually have done better. Also where was Simon and Schnaderbeck ? (more injuries?).... I saw Simon in a tracksuit but not on the list!
 

garyhopkins

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100% agree - When you watch the training vid's - very little is shown on target shooting bar the small goal games (accept they are only a snapshot). Maybe Kane and Son should be asked to come give them a morning session every week next season. There was also so much poor passing on Sunday and some passes were often in panic mode and hit far too hard and often behind the running player and that also needs to be worked on for next season. Still do not understand why she did not use the fresh players for the last 15 minutes even if there was a risk of losing a goal - we may actually have done better. Also where was Simon and Schnaderbeck ? (more injuries?).... I saw Simon in a tracksuit but not on the list!
I thought that Simon came off at half time against Arsenal for tactical or fatigue reasons. However, she must have picked up an injury in order to miss the final game. Schnaderbeck was in the initial team list but must have had a problem pre-game.

Adding fresh legs for the last 15 would have made sense and letting Lane and Tang onto the THS pitch would have been a nice gesture. However, RS didn't think that way for whatever reason.

It will be interesting to see how RS develops the team. Ben appears confident in her ability but I remain on the fence. The team has generally struggled in the last third since xmas (14 goals in 15 games with 4 coming in one game) and we can all see the problems upfront. I hope that we'll look more likely to score next season and RS finds 2/3 players who can hit the ball hard and accurately.
 

DelboySpurs

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I thought that Simon came off at half time against Arsenal for tactical or fatigue reasons. However, she must have picked up an injury in order to miss the final game. Schnaderbeck was in the initial team list but must have had a problem pre-game.

Adding fresh legs for the last 15 would have made sense and letting Lane and Tang onto the THS pitch would have been a nice gesture. However, RS didn't think that way for whatever reason.

It will be interesting to see how RS develops the team. Ben appears confident in her ability but I remain on the fence. The team has generally struggled in the last third since xmas (14 goals in 15 games with 4 coming in one game) and we can all see the problems upfront. I hope that we'll look more likely to score next season and RS finds 2/3 players who can hit the ball hard and accurately.
Next season will be a tough season for us and her (even with a new contract).
If she gets the wrong players in again and maybe she will have to accept she will be judged more becos of finishing 5th this season. I think now we got there through riding our luck rather than on skill and merit - not doing enough in January and taking the team to a squad of 25 was very much our downfall from 3rd. All I am saying is trying to run a minimal skill up front team with only 17-18 players could have been avoided with better investment and good scouting.

I see Manure now in talks with Lucia Garcia from Spain - thats both them and the Scum already out working on better players (guess to help replace Miedema leaving). Be great to hear our name banded about for once.
 

DelboySpurs

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I guess i wont see the back of no laces Ayanne this summer now that she is reportadly in a relationship with our Captain
Now it makes sense why Shelina opted for the 1 year extension as Ayanne contract finishes next year.
 

DelboySpurs

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Kerys signed a new extension til end of next season plus 1 year option which seems the norm nowadays
She gives 100% thats for sure but just doesnt seem have the run back stamina which often leads to minimal defensive prowess when she does (so many unforced errors in her defensive game)
Hopefully she will get more training in the wing back role and how to save stamina for when it matters in defending the right flank when under attack or at set pieces. Needs to get in front of the opponent and between them and our goal more. Thats her only downfall in what I have seen this season.

Just hope this is not a week or seeing the under performers starting to sign new - that would be a step back for sure

I would like to see Ayanne / Naz / Ubogagu / Addison / Tang and either Ale or Morgan moved on for much better and that next season we take up the 25 player squad option in January. We didnt do that this season and we cannot afford a bench of 5-6 including the GK again when so many injuries came around after January. That was our downfall from 3rd plus the inability in scoring goals.

Maybe next season will be the breakthrough season for Izzy and Gracie especially in the early Cup games. Gracie always looks good in training ... but I did notice she was not in the end of season squad photo ! ... wonder why?
 
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