"This Is Good As It Can Get"....

[DEFchenkOE]

I'm not too bothered about this quote that he made, he done an amazing job and lead the club to some of it's greatest victories in recent times. And so far, CL quarter finals is as good as it gets for us!

 

[Lo Amo Speroni]

I was glad to see him go because he took his eye off the ball because of the England job and it angered me greatly. As time has gone by I look back on his time with fondness. He also talks about Poch and this team in such glowing terms that I have forgiven him.
I remember the interview this quote comes from. He was wrong but I think he would now admit that.

It's all about now and the future.

 

[Gassin's finest]

Some of us look at how good the players were that he (inherrited) had at his disposal, and think if anything we underachieved.

That aside my issues with Harry are not so much based on what we were doing on the pitch, but all the crap that was happening behind the scenes and in the media. As a club things were far from rosie when he left, and that generally was down to Redknapp and his never shut up attitude.

 

[nightgoat]

He inherited from jande ramos a team that looked like it might be relegated. He turned them into winners. Bale was considered a jinx before harry came along.

No one seriously considered Bale a jinx, though. Shit like that is just curious stats for tabloid pen pushers. Most of us could see he was a very talented player from the outset - not necessarily top three in the world, but still very good - and still said so when there was suggestion he might be loaned out.

 

[Lilbaz]

No one seriously considered Bale a jinx, though. Shit like that is just curious stats for tabloid pen pushers. Most of us could see he was a very talented player from the outset - not necessarily top three in the world, but still very good - and still said so when there was suggestion he might be loaned out.

Read the full article. Where hary said he had to get tougher etc...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...t-Gareth-Bale-jinxed-look--Martin-Samuel.html

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

As much as I appreciate what Harry did for us I think what riled myself and others about this particular comment was that it was an extension of his whole unwillingness to take responsibility for our failings. When the team was winning he was more than happy to lap up the praise but as soon as we hit the rocks it was the usual "what more can I do?" or when we got beat by one of the big sides "they've got better players than us, what do you expect?". Because for Harry football was all about having good players, he didn't seem to believe in a philosophy, coaching or tactics. It just made it incredibly frustrating as with him we knew the club wasn't going to move forward unless we started trying to outspend the big boys - which, of course, was never going to happen.

 

[Lilbaz]

As much as I appreciate what Harry did for us I think what riled myself and others about this particular comment was that it was an extension of his whole unwillingness to take responsibility for our failings. When the team was winning he was more than happy to lap up the praise but as soon as we hit the rocks it was the usual "what more can I do?" or when we got beat by one of the big sides "they've got better players than us, what do you expect?". Because for Harry football was all about having good players, he didn't seem to believe in a philosophy, coaching or tactics. It just made it incredibly frustrating as with him we knew the club wasn't going to move forward unless we started trying to outspend the big boys - which, of course, was never going to happen.

I seem to remember him getting us into the champions league for the first time.
If you want to have a dig at a manager have a go at one of the ones that failed to get us into it.

 

[SpursDave88]

As much as I appreciate what Harry did for us I think what riled myself and others about this particular comment was that it was an extension of his whole unwillingness to take responsibility for our failings. When the team was winning he was more than happy to lap up the praise but as soon as we hit the rocks it was the usual "what more can I do?" or when we got beat by one of the big sides "they've got better players than us, what do you expect?". Because for Harry football was all about having good players, he didn't seem to believe in a philosophy, coaching or tactics. It just made it incredibly frustrating as with him we knew the club wasn't going to move forward unless we started trying to outspend the big boys - which, of course, was never going to happen.

surely what was more annoying was surrendering a place in the top four two seasons in the row by going on long winless runs, dropping points or even losing at home to teams like Hull, Norwich and West Brom...

 

[whitesocks]

"This Is Good As It Can Get"

What irritated me about that was that he had no understanding of the club he was managing.
Many of us saw spurs win FA Cups, UEFA cup, League cups and some the league itself.
We've had some of the the best players in the world, and managers that changed how the game was played.
It's as if Nottingham Forest somehow got back into europe and the manager said this is as good as it can get, as if all those titles and european cups didn't count.

I really enjoyed the football HR's team produced and it was pretty disgraceful how he went, but he could not help winding the fans up all the time.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

I seem to remember him getting us into the champions league for the first time.
If you want to have a dig at a manager have a go at one of the ones that failed to get us into it.

So you think Harry is beyond criticism?

 

[michaelden]

I seem to remember him getting us into the champions league for the first time.
If you want to have a dig at a manager have a go at one of the ones that failed to get us into it.

and dropping loads of points as he was flirting with the England job; or asking for more money when Levy's mum died. He came in, had a good team and they played with freedom, but he was no wonder coach. He was too friendly with the press and the quote that started this thread off was just a sign of his character, I've done more than you had before be grateful to me, I don't have to try harder.

Unfortunately which the squad we had we should've been aiming higher, being more consistent etc... He aimed low and revelled in achieving that. If he aimed higher we'd have forgiven him for not achieving that.

 

[Lilbaz]

So you think Harry is beyond criticism?

Not at all. I just think that he doesn't deserve the hate a lot of fans have for him. He was the best manager we had for years yet there are more threads on here slagging him off on here than any manager apart from maybe tim.
It is entitlement. He got us good and we got a taste for glory but were disppointed. Many fans feel buthurt about that.

You wonder why other fans hate us? Because some of our fans think it's our right to have trophies and whinge and sulk when we don't get them.

Give it a rest. Focus on the positives of his tenure. Beating city to get cl. Inter and ac milan. Some of the most beautiful football we've played. He's gone wish him well.

 

[Trix]

I seem to remember him getting us into the champions league for the first time.
If you want to have a dig at a manager have a go at one of the ones that failed to get us into it.

Just because others were worse, it doesn't mean he did his job as well as he could have.

 

[SpursDave88]

Not at all. I just think that he doesn't deserve the hate a lot of fans have for him. He was the best manager we had for years yet there are more threads on here slagging him off on here than any manager apart from maybe tim.
It is entitlement. He got us good and we got a taste for glory but were disppointed. Many fans feel buthurt about that.

You wonder why other fans hate us? Because some of our fans think it's our right to have trophies and whinge and sulk when we don't get them.

Give it a rest. Focus on the positives of his tenure. Beating city to get cl. Inter and ac milan. Some of the most beautiful football we've played. He's gone wish him well.

I think that's complete rubbish.

For starters, I don't think anyone hates him at Spurs, even his harshest critics most probably look back on his time at the club fondly.

Secondly, of all clubs, I don't think anyone at Spurs thinks it is our right to have trophies. A sense of entitlement would be very odd for a club that last won a major trophy 26 years ago.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Not at all. I just think that he doesn't deserve the hate a lot of fans have for him. He was the best manager we had for years yet there are more threads on here slagging him off on here than any manager apart from maybe tim.
It is entitlement. He got us good and we got a taste for glory but were disppointed. Many fans feel buthurt about that.

You wonder why other fans hate us? Because some of our fans think it's our right to have trophies and whinge and sulk when we don't get them.

Give it a rest. Focus on the positives of his tenure. Beating city to get cl. Inter and ac milan. Some of the most beautiful football we've played. He's gone wish him well.

As I said, I appreciate what he did for us, but there are certain character flaws that irked me. I made my views clear when he was in charge of us as well. I don't hate him at all, I just don't feel he always had the best interests of the club at heart during his tenure.

Generally I prefer to appreciate what we have now but that doesn't mean when I look back Harry's tenure I will do so with rose-tinted glasses. He simply was out for himself more than any manager I can remember and that is not something that sat well for me.

 

[Lilbaz]

I think that's complete rubbish.

For starters, I don't think anyone hates him at Spurs, even his harshest critics most probably look back on his time at the club fondly.

Secondly, of all clubs, I don't think anyone at Spurs thinks it is our right to have trophies. A sense of entitlement would be very odd for a club that last won a major trophy 26 years ago.

If no-one hated him why do these threads pop up every few months?

 

[scat1620]

Just because others were worse, it doesn't mean he did his job as well as he could have.

Poch aside (and even he, like everyone else, isn't 100% beyond reproach), what manager of ours since at least Gerry Francis (I don't go back further than that so can't comment on earlier managers) couldn't you say the same about?

 

[Spurger King]

Poch aside (and even he, like everyone else, isn't 100% beyond reproach), what manager of ours since at least Gerry Francis (I don't go back further than that so can't comment on earlier managers) couldn't you say the same about?

Sherwood. He did as well as he could have, which ultimately wasn't good enough.

 

[tiger666]

Sherwood. He did as well as he could have, which ultimately wasn't good enough.

Has Poch beaten his win % yet?

 

[Trix]

Poch aside (and even he, like everyone else, isn't 100% beyond reproach), what manager of ours since at least Gerry Francis (I don't go back further than that so can't comment on earlier managers) couldn't you say the same about?

As I have said my biggest issues with him are off the field ones, but it just amazes me why he gets so much credit for how the team played. It wasn't great tactical nous, or a superb training regime that was producing the great football. It was purely the fact we had some very talented individuals that weren't restricted in an attacking sense, because they had little to no tactical instruction or defensive duties.

I won't deny we had some very good performances under Harry, but the end of season collapses were beyond awful and as bad as anything AVB producied.

You have to wonder when he's telling all and sundry 4th is as good as it gets, how much of that rubs off on the players? How long before they believe it and all that confidence he has given them is gone? And lets not forget anyone who thought we could do better than give up in March, was branded an idiot by the main man himself.