This Week’s Manager Watch: Ryan Mason

[ukdy]

I think there should be. It allows a direct dialogue between the senior players (Kane etc) with DL.

Whilst it's good in principle. It really should only be a last line of defence if there's a serious problem the manager or Captain can't solve... like the problem IS the manager.

 

[spark7586]

Yeah I don’t get it. He did fine last time and is only 31 years old. Not sure what people expect really. He should have got the job initially.

If he had the job we’d have Winks still playing CM

 

[muppetman]

Didn't know where to put this, but it tickled me

 

[SandroClegane]

4. Consecutive. Managers.

There is nothing being exaggerated or otherwise here.

It continues to happen. There are players that are rotten at this club and that rot sets amongst new players and likely filters down to the youth eventually, if what you say about what this committee does is true.

If you think everything is rosy fair play, but you're avoiding the real issue at hand here. Another manager comes and goes, and they're allowed to remain comfortable.

They do not need or deserve to have any power like this.

We have plenty of posters on here who just want whoever comes in at the helm to manage and coach, how can he do that when there's a committee of players that will have any sort of say going forward? Is it any wonder we are where we are?

Sorry mate but there is no need for a bloody players Committee. None. The club are giving them even more power when they have far too much as it is.

How do you people function in real life? Your jobs don't have committees of leaders working on things in certain capacities? It's bonkers to me that people aren't grasping the purpose of this.

 

[agrdavidsfan]

Slot isn’t enough anymore there needs to be a mutiny

 

[Dougal]

I’ve just been offline as I had to put the kids to bed. Is Mason still in charge?

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

If he had the job we’d have Winks still playing CM

Which could still work if we wanted to play a system where midfielders did something other than just run about and tackle...

 

[talkshowhost86]

Having a Players Committee isn't a problem at all. I'd be surprised if most teams don't have the same.

It's what control/influence that committee has that's the potential issue.

If those players can go above a manager to Levy for anything then that isn't okay.

 

[talkshowhost86]

I’ve just been offline as I had to put the kids to bed. Is Mason still in charge?

Nope. You're in charge now.

But we will sack you for A&C before midnight I'm afraid.

 

[rossdapep]

Well, I am certainly rooting for Mason and hope he shows something that proves he has a future as a successful coach.

The back end of Comte and the Stellini era couldn't have had me more disinterested. I'm not expecting miracles but I won't be enraged with anything Mason does

Carrick, Company, Arteta. We really could do with one of our own turning out to be a top-level coach.

 

[Dan Stallworthy]

No negative feelings towards Mason, he's a spurs man through and through but as others have said he's been part of this mess of a season. This is just gonna end badly for him.

I know it's hard to get a manager in at this point In the season but we need a completely fresh management team in ASAP to assess the squad when we have nothing to lose.

We could all forgive bad results under a fresh manager for the remainder of this season with the understanding that we've got a new season ahead with time for them to implement tactics and for them to assess the market and work out who we need to replace and not leave it last minute

 

[SpursSince1980]

The Mason decision looks like it was.

They shouldn't be consulted in a major capacity at all, not in terms of who should get the gig.

I think it's very obvious that there's a lot of player power at Tottenham, more than most Premiership Clubs.

And that results in the players dictating way too much.

I suppose player power and influence is very much a part of the modern game. However, the capacity of that power is determined by the chap at the top of the food chain. And if he has been giving them a bit too much power, then it's easy for them to go over a manager's head to get what they want.

I'm not naive. I know this happens at other clubs. But perhaps Levy is too easily swayed. Perhaps he overly placates the players, because they could just as easily turn on him. Blame him. Not necessarily have the power to get him chucked out. But definitely enough power to make things uncomfortable.

Lastly, I'd like to add, that if the team's performances since Conte left were a reflection of their dislike or disapproval of Stellini... then they're a bunch of entitled tossers. All of them. Because they get paid to do a job. They get paid an exorbitant amount of money to do a job. But to childishly decide that they don't like their teacher, therefore won't do their homework, is gutless and pathetic.

 

[Mr Pink]

I suppose player power and influence is very much a part of the modern game. However, the capacity of that power is determined by the chap at the top of the food chain. And if he has been giving them a bit too much power, then it's easy for them to go over a manager's head to get what they want.

I'm no naive. I know this happens at other clubs. But perhaps Levy is too easily swayed. Perhaps he overly placates the players, because they could just as easily turn on him. Blame him. Not necessarily have the power to get him chucked out. But definitely enough power to make things uncomfortable.

Lastly, I'd like to add, that if the team's performances since Conte left were a reflection of their dislike or disapproval of Stellini... then they're a bunch of entitled tossers. All of them. Because they get paid to do a job. They get paid an exorbitant amount of money to do a job. But to childishly decide that they don't like their teacher, therefore won't do their homework, is gutless and pathetic.

Yeah I feel its the manager who gets fucked in the Tottenham triangle.

Levy and the players have each others back when it comes to the crunch.

 

[DiVaio]

There's context to this.

We all know Levy is too accessible to disgruntled players - ie any player not playing - and that this undermines a manager's authority.

This shit would never fly under Fergie, Wenger, Pep, or Klopp.

Players have to respect and to some degree fear the manager's authority, or you'll never get anywhere.

Sure.

Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp has revealed he instilled a 'player's committee' when he joined the Reds in 2015.

Klopp, speaking to the national press ahead of Liverpool's meeting with Cardiff on Saturday, explained the importance of James Milner and Jordan Henderson as representatives of the club.

The manager also explained how he built a players' committee that included the likes of Lucas Leiva, Adam Lallana and Philippe Coutinho, when he joined the club three years ago.


“I really think Millie and Hendo are doing an outstanding job for the club and the team,” Klopp said.

“Being ambassador for the club on one side and impressive for the team on the other side is brilliant. They combine pretty much everything.

“When I came in I built a players’ committee. There were five to six players including Lucas Leiva, Adam Lallana and Phil Coutinho.


“This team has grown now and they all have very, very demanding and confident players in the squad so you can decide who of them you want.”

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

Yeah I feel its the manager who gets fucked in the Tottenham triangle.

Levy and the players have each others back when it comes to the crunch.

The worst part is the fans are only to happy to pile on the manager as well.

 

[KingsDodgyKnee]

The committee probably exists to handle disciplinary measures, new players joining the squad, youth prospect mentoring, etc etc. Everyone is just extrapolating this idea in their mind of this group getting together to undermine a manager. Completely ridiculous

They're the football version of the Stonecutters.

Who gets Nuno Santo sacked
Who gets Jose Mourinho sacked
We doooo
We doooo

Who 'Tonio Conte sacked
Who Cris Stellini sacked
We doooo
We doooo

 

[Joshua shepherd]

Well, I am certainly rooting for Mason and hope he shows something that proves he has a future as a successful coach.

The back end of Comte and the Stellini era couldn't have had me more disinterested. I'm not expecting miracles but I won't be enraged with anything Mason does

Carrick, Company, Arteta. We really could do with one of our own turning out to be a top-level coach.

Carrick’s as much one of ours as arteta is theirs.

 

[robotsonic]

Outrage over the fact that we have a players committee is some proper tinfoil hat shit. I bet every single club in the country has a committee, formalised or no, of senior players, and it would seem to be a sensible concept.

I swear that some just want to be angry at any half-understood tidbit of information. It must be bloody exhausting, because just reading it all is proper drudgery in itself.

 

[tony0379]

 

[Tucker]

So he’s a masochist as a well as a skateboarder.

Nice.