Tim Sherwood on Talksport just now

[edgey]

Just wondered....Did he ever have a go at Chelsea fans for the gas chamber impressions?

No instead he blames the Spurs' "Yids" chant, saying it provokes Chelsea fans

 

[beats1]

No instead he blames the Spurs' "Yids" chant, saying it provokes Chelsea fans

Ah yes, the old bully defence blame the victim for provoking them

 

[spurs-r-us]

We don't need to spend 50m.

A striker or two and our side is seriously looking good.

Rose and Townsend will be like new signings.

Being deadly serious here.

 

[leelee]

We could generate 20m from fringe player sales, great youth set up and more tv money. We'll make a couple of big signings this summer!

 

[spurs-r-us]

We could generate 20m from fringe player sales, great youth set up and more tv money. We'll make a couple of big signings this summer!

Such a good time to be a Spurs fan. Never mind the Champions League, we just need to play our cards right to have a real go at the league next season. Sounds optimistic, and as much as we like to lambast him, Dan Levy has done an awesome job to give us such a potent, up and coming side.

 

[sloth]

Sturridge and Coutinho, how the fuck did we let Lolpool buy them ahead of us?

First of all you can write that about any player who goes on to do well at a club of similar or lesser stature than us. It's akin to saying "Fucking hell why didn't I pick the grand National winner!" after he's just won!

But second of all, and this is really important, the jury's definitely still out on them both, but particularly Coutinho. Coutinho was signed for under £8m from Inter Milan, there is a reason they allowed him to leave for that price. I'm not saying that Coutinho won't prove an inspired buy, simply that it's too early to say.

Sturridge may also prove an inspired buy, and there's no doubt he can have inspired performances, but there is also a reason why Chelsea were willing toi let him go, and another why AVB didn't rate him when he coached him. I don't know what those reasons are, and time will tell as to what kind of player he will become, but again it's too early to bemoan 'missing out' on him.

What follows is the equivalent of a farmer hanging dead Magpies in his field. They're all posts taken from a few years back where some were bemoaning missing out on Martin Petrov when he signed for for City, and after he'd played half a season and put in a few decent performances. Remember this was also the window we had already signed Bale to play LB:

if petrov has gone to shitty as looks likely dc and dl need to look long and hard at themselves over their spending this summer.Surely they can see for the past number of years we have been crying out for a quality left winger then when one comes along who openly admits he wants to joins us we let it go so long that someone else nips in and signs him.The reason i mention the spending is again we have gone for potential instead of going for recognised quality when there is an oppertunity to break into the top four this season how many more years do we go on with the tag of they have some really good kids so maybe next year imo this is showing a distinct lack of knowhow in the transfer market or we are only getting in players who we think we can sell on

£4.2mill for petrov

typical spurs!!

At the moment, the pen on my desk remains un-snapped, but if we find ourselves with the same squad on September the first then i assure you it will be in absolute smitherins.

I am a very very close follower of Spanish Football and i honestly dont think there are many, if any better left footers that play on the left hand side in the whole league-for that fee i really dont see why an offer was put in because if you lose out on five million pounds if he doesnt come good its no major disaster.

I personally have quite close links with some people very involved with spurs transfers and have followed the whole petrov thing closely and was gutted on Tuesday when i was told it was off, although im pretty sure that they are not giving up on a left winger coming in this window.

Admittedly he hasnt done it at Premiership level and was injured a bit last year, and obviously Comolli has not let us down once yet, but i cant help but be disappointed on a day that Petrov and Wilhelmsson, two players that would have undoubtedly strengthened the squad and probably the team have slipped through the fingers for a combined fee of less than 7 million, a fee that is less than we will shell out if we sign someone like Curtis Davies who we really

From what was being said in Spain etc there was no other 'realistic' offers for Petrov (and I, like most others, assumed that WE were the best placed). This 'turn about' has totally freaked me.....JUST when I thought that we are finally able to attract top quality players....we end up (fans atleast) looking for a 2nd choice replacement. SWP is just that but after his performance, in Holland, I think that he will be staying at Chelski Albion. However, let's be positive....and HOPE that Commoli has an ACE up his sleeve and that he is alll set to play it when all seemed lost (lol).
I shall be watching closely....COYS!

Petrov has such fantastic technique.
His crosses are amazing, so gutted we didn't buy him.

It's not just his actually ability to cross a ball, it's his decision making. Yesterday his little chip over for Vassel's goal was excellent, most wingers would probably have drilled it across the face of goal (which he did a few minutes earlier, only for Bianci to miss from around 5 yards), but he took his time, checked his surroundings and then delivered.

Wish we had him. :-(

I'll be honest and say I don't know a lot about Petrov. I saw him once at the end of last season, but previous to that I've only reports to go on. He sounds like he was the dogs bollox in Germany, but this quote from yesterday's paper made me pause and question whether he's really all that...

There are a few bits in that, the fact that Atletico don't want him - remember they're a midtable/top-half club - because he isn't good enough and also the second bit bit I highlighted...

The inference being that the journalist needs to explain to Spanish readers that he's highly rated in England. You only need to explain someone being highly rated if in fact they are not highly rated in the country they're coming from.

Into that mix, you can throw his age, his injury problems (out for an entire season ffs) and as others have pointed out, his desire to go for the best contract possible at this stage of his career and you can see how some of the bluster and disappointment being expressed on here could be a bit over the top.

Next season he may prove a hit for City, he may equally be injured before September and see out the rest of his contract on crutches. Neither scenario will prove DL, DC et al right or wrong, but we should remember that making a balanced decision is one based on risk vs reward. DL has proved himself astute at this over the long run, occasionally a player will prove him wrong in the individual sense, but they will never prove his approach wrong. It's for this reason we should all put our dummies back in and keep a firm hold of our toys.

 

[JerryGarcia]

I love the way it's now being reported that Madrid have offered Bale a contract and will match any wage we offer etc.. If they've approached him behind Levy's back after the Modric saga last year, they're going to find themselves in a bit of bother. It's obviously bollocks, just ammuses me how papers are willing to print stuff that doesn't even make sense.

 

[playboypaul]

He's shown absolutely no sign of doing that in the past, and sadly I doubt now will be the time he'll do it.

The difference between him and the other Billionaire owners is that they have a passion about football and use their clubs as toys. Regrettably that is just not the way Joe Lewis has ever approached his (partial) ownership of our beloved club.

Would be great, but IMO they're looking for a medium term exit and will be looking to make a return. £50m spent on players is a tricky thing to make a return on (when risk adjusted), so sadly I doubt it'll happen

Lewis and Levy are both supporters as well as owner and operator of the club.

 

[playboypaul]

this is probably a stupid question, but was Lewis a boyhood Spurs fan?

He was/is.

 

[hybridsoldier]

First of all you can write that about any player who goes on to do well at a club of similar or lesser stature than us. It's akin to saying "Fucking hell why didn't I pick the grand National winner!" after he's just won!

But second of all, and this is really important, the jury's definitely still out on them both, but particularly Coutinho. Coutinho was signed for under £8m from Inter Milan, there is a reason they allowed him to leave for that price. I'm not saying that Coutinho won't prove an inspired buy, simply that it's too early to say.

Sturridge may also prove an inspired buy, and there's no doubt he can have inspired performances, but there is also a reason why Chelsea were willing toi let him go, and another why AVB didn't rate him when he coached him. I don't know what those reasons are, and time will tell as to what kind of player he will become, but again it's too early to bemoan 'missing out' on him.

What follows is the equivalent of a farmer hanging dead Magpies in his field. They're all posts taken from a few years back where some were bemoaning missing out on Martin Petrov when he signed for for City, and after he'd played half a season and put in a few decent performances. Remember this was also the window we had already signed Bale to play LB:

If Petrov was such a flop we did we try and sign him again 2 years later in the summer of 2009?

His first season he was outstanding in my opinion...which would have justified our anger at missing out for such a relatively small fee.

 

[bigpalacios]

Petrov was ok, he was good against some shit teams and shit against good teams. Alot of players City signed that season were the same ie Elano and Giovani. They started well then once they made abit of a name for themselves they got found out. We were bottom after 8 games and they were flying but we ended up above them.
They were all just cast offs from their clubs and sven picked all of them after watching videos of them.

 

[sloth]

If Petrov was such a flop we did we try and sign him again 2 years later in the summer of 2009?

His first season he was outstanding in my opinion...which would have justified our anger at missing out for such a relatively small fee.

Did we?

 

[hybridsoldier]

Did we?

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...trov-bentley-swap-deal-scuppered-1780137.html

 

[beats1]

Sturridge and Coutinho, how the fuck did we let Lolpool buy them ahead of us?

Dont worry we stole Dempsey off them

 

[Misfit]

And Siggy.

 

[mano-obe]

Can someone summarise what he said?

Tim sherwood said that he was better than zinidine Zidane because jack walker said so!!

 

[sloth]

If Petrov was such a flop we did we try and sign him again 2 years later in the summer of 2009?

His first season he was outstanding in my opinion...which would have justified our anger at missing out for such a relatively small fee.

The point is you will not always pick winners, the goal is to simply be better at it than your rivals, to pick more winners than them and fewer duds. Petrov may or may not have been a winner, and there was good reason to think he might have been and good reason to think he might not have been, however at the time several acted as if he were certain to be. This is the thing about decision making when you don't actually make the decision, every-time someone does other than you would do you are free to imagine the absolute best case scenario had they just followed the path you advocated, and thus condemn the person criticised when his choice appears to be worse in comparison. Similarly, every time the person criticised actually appears to have got it right you are free to imagine it would have gone just as well - or even better - if he'd done what you had done. We rarely reflect back on the things we would have done and admit error, but even when we do, it's easy to pat ourselves on the back for being big enough to admit it and then go on in the same blithe ignorance as before.

The real point is there are good and bad decisions, and good and bad decision making processes, but to criticise them you need to understand what they are and the whole context in which they're made, which in turn means trying to imagine why something you disagree with might be a good decision, and considering whether you might have got it wrong, or misunderstood something as much as why the other person has got it wrong, or has misunderstood something.

 

[Bingy]

Such a good time to be a Spurs fan. Never mind the Champions League, we just need to play our cards right to have a real go at the league next season. Sounds optimistic, and as much as we like to lambast him, Dan Levy has done an awesome job to give us such a potent, up and coming side.

We are so close...A striker or 2 will put us 'up there' with the 'mercenary' teams...We, obviously, need to keep Bale but...that said, we have the bones of a EPL winning side (forget the old cliches that are thrown our way...). I can well remember the Double years (I had just started onto solids....a change from 'Mink' lol). It is about time that we retook our position as 'top dogs'....AVB has the will to take us UPWARDS....COYS

 

[AberdeenSpur]

We don't need to spend 50m.

A striker or two and our side is seriously looking good.

Rose and Townsend will be like new signings.

Being deadly serious here.

Agree.

We have addressed our problems and made signings that have improved our team this season (Lloris, Vertonghen, Dembele)

All we need is a marquee signing (in the form of a class striker) and perhaps one more improvement (CM maybe, but I think we should give holtby or siggy the chance)

Next season will be our chance to shine.

 

[AberdeenSpur]

I love the way it's now being reported that Madrid have offered Bale a contract and will match any wage we offer etc.. If they've approached him behind Levy's back after the Modric saga last year, they're going to find themselves in a bit of bother. It's obviously bollocks, just ammuses me how papers are willing to print stuff that doesn't even make sense.

Because people read and believe them