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Time to drop Parker.

ajspurs

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Agree with this but its time for a rest.

What are you saying then, that he should be rested because (like what Mr.P said) he looks tired? Or because you don't think he does enough in an attacking sense? One would suggest, like you originally said, dropping him when the other would suggest 'resting' him.

Whether he's dropped or rested he's not going to suddenly start scoring goals or getting more assists because of it.
 

thinktank

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When the front 5 are scoring, Paarker looks immense, however when we are struggling to score he becomes more frustrating as it illuminates his lack of attacking vision and end product. I am getting fed up of him but as a DM hes brilliant. We need to ensure that we realise that if the attacking players did their job Parker would be loved again.

Amen.
 

Mr Pink

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But having vision isn't really what Parker is in the side for....when we have the likes of VDV and Modric, we have an abundance of craft and creative talent on the pitch...

So basically if they're failing to break down ten men behind the ball, Parker gets the blame...hmm, not sure how on earth that's a balanced way to look at it.
 

bigpalacios

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What are you saying then, that he should be rested because (like what Mr.P said) he looks tired? Or because you don't think he does enough in an attacking sense? One would suggest, like you originally said, dropping him when the other would suggest 'resting' him.

Whether he's dropped or rested he's not going to suddenly start scoring goals or getting more assists because of it.

Look, in the first half the season he was playing forward passes not just his trademark 5 yard pass, whereas now he plays 5 yard passes and trys to get forward and make something happen at which he fails everytime.

His performances merit between a 6.5 and 7 every game, not the end of the world I know and I feel Sandro or Livermore could do a better job.

Maybe its not tiredness I dont really know but what I do know is that the last 6 weeks watching Parker has frustarted me.
 

punkisback

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But having vision isn't really what Parker is in the side for....when we have the likes of VDV and Modric, we have an abundance of craft and creative talent on the pitch...

So basically if they're failing to break down ten men behind the ball, Parker gets the blame...hmm, not sure how on earth that's a balanced way to look at it.

Parker doesn't really get the ball quickly enough to the creative players. Instead of playing a simple 10 yard pass forward to the AMs which is what we want him to do he passes backwards even when their are easy options forward. This allows the opposing team to push up and negate the space. If we had a better passes in CM we could get the ball more quickly to the Rafa and Modric and catch teams in transition from their attack to defence.
 

ajspurs

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Look, in the first half the season he was playing forward passes not just his trademark 5 yard pass, whereas now he plays 5 yard passes and trys to get forward and make something happen at which he fails everytime.

His performances merit between a 6.5 and 7 every game, not the end of the world I know and I feel Sandro or Livermore could do a better job.

Maybe its not tiredness I dont really know but what I do know is that the last 6 weeks watching Parker has frustarted me.

I see what you're saying but I just don't really think it's right to judge his whole game on how adventurous his passing is. That's where Palacios failed in my opinion, he tried too much and as a result gave the ball away too often, he was much better when he kept it simple.
 

Mr Pink

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Parker doesn't really get the ball quickly enough to the creative players. Instead of playing a simple 10 yard pass forward to the AMs which is what we want him to do he passes backwards even when their are easy options forward. This allows the opposing team to push up and negate the space. If we had a better passes in CM we could get the ball more quickly to the Rafa and Modric and catch teams in transition from their attack to defence.

I know there are some grumbles with that but if you want to start picking the bones out of all of them there will be plenty to discuss. Parker does what he does best, and that's mop up and does 75% of the midfield work off the ball.
 

bigpalacios

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Parker doesn't really get the ball quickly enough to the creative players. Instead of playing a simple 10 yard pass forward to the AMs which is what we want him to do he passes backwards even when their are easy options forward. This allows the opposing team to push up and negate the space. If we had a better passes in CM we could get the ball more quickly to the Rafa and Modric and catch teams in transition from their attack to defence.

This.

Its not that I expect him to make a Modric pass but just a forward one would do nicely.
 

bigpalacios

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I see what you're saying but I just don't really think it's right to judge his whole game on how adventurous his passing is. That's where Palacios failed in my opinion, he tried too much and as a result gave the ball away too often, he was much better when he kept it simple.

In Palacios first 6 month at the Lane his passing was extremely cultured but thats another debate:)
 

Kendall

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It's amazing that so many people watch football, but don't actually watch football.

The same people are the ones that think Darren Fletcher is shit.
 

Donki

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Absolutely raging at this sort of post!! Do you wonder why the guy is starting to look tired? Could it be because some other of our players don't like to cover the ground that he does therefore he has to do more look at the big picture instead of the individuals. Modders, Bale, Niko don't like doing a lot of donkey work, if they did a bit a more Parker might not have to do quite as much.
 

Misfit

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It's amazing that so many people watch football, but don't actually watch football.

The same people are the ones that think Darren Fletcher is shit.
Yep, they don't even stop and think why, when he was healthy and injury free he always, without fail, started the big games for yanited. Probably the first name on the team sheet.
 

Donki

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It's amazing that so many people watch football, but don't actually watch football.

The same people are the ones that think Darren Fletcher is shit.

Exactly either they don't see it or they simply don't understand.
 

kendoddsdadsdogsdead

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Parker doesn't really get the ball quickly enough to the creative players. Instead of playing a simple 10 yard pass forward to the AMs which is what we want him to do he passes backwards even when their are easy options forward. This allows the opposing team to push up and negate the space. If we had a better passes in CM we could get the ball more quickly to the Rafa and Modric and catch teams in transition from their attack to defence.

I agree tbh. He does tend to play the way hes facing. It can be quite frustrating at times. He ran down a few blind alleys tonight too.
 

bigpalacios

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It's amazing that so many people watch football, but don't actually watch football.

The same people are the ones that think Darren Fletcher is shit.

Darren Fletcher is a dynamic midfielder.

Scott Parker is a very efficient midfielder that isnt playing as well as he was in the first half of the season.

Its not a crime to ask more from a footballer is it?
 

bigpalacios

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Yep, they don't even stop and think why, when he was healthy and injury free he always, without fail, started the big games for yanited. Probably the first name on the team sheet.

Ahead of Bale, Modric and Van der Vaart.

I dont think so.
 

Donki

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Darren Fletcher is a dynamic midfielder.

Scott Parker is a very efficient midfielder that isnt playing as well as he was in the first half of the season.

Its not a crime to ask more from a footballer is it?

I would be asking more from other players than from a guy who gives his all, that's my point.
 

jimmyh

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I thought when i seen the thread title that this was a wind up, but you are actually seri uos. This guy has been nothing short of superb for us nearly all season and this is coming from someone who did not want Harry to sign him but he has proved me wrong.
The way we played tonight and against chelski with someone in there to give him a hand and let the flair players play has improved us.
Drop him NO keep someone in there helping him absolutely.
 
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