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Tottenham Hotspur are now eyeing move for Norwich City winger Jonathan Rowe

Nick-TopSpursMan

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From the data and the bits I’ve seen he is more of an attacking mid/inside forward than a winger. Doesn’t create much but is a goal threat. Another player who isn’t really a dribbler though as you’ll see from the data. A good young player but not sure he’s the best fit. Does a lot of his best work from central areas rather than out wide.


I would much rather go for Antonio Nusa if we’re going for a young attacker. Has more of the skills we lack and a higher ceiling imo.
 
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From the data and the bits I’ve seen he is more of an attacking mid/inside forward than a winger. Doesn’t create much but is a goal threat. Another player who isn’t really a dribbler though as you’ll see from the data. A good young player but not sure he’s the best fit.


I would much rather go for Antonio Nusa if we’re going for a young attacker. Has more of the skills we lack and a higher ceiling imo.
i have no doubt that if jon rowe was in the belgian league he'd be a much bigger name
 

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I would love us to do this
Same.

If we scout right I love this model as you can unearth the next Maddison, Watkins, Bowen etc.

Also we could do with a player with his profile on the RW.

Used to love it when we signed young talent from the championship : Dawson, Bale, Lennon etc
 

Nick-TopSpursMan

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i have no doubt that if jon rowe was in the belgian league he'd be a much bigger name

That may be the case but from what I’ve seen (and the data backs this up) he is still not the kind of wide player we are really missing (a 2 way dribbling specialist).

Rowe seems to do a lot of his best work in central areas which would be minimised if he played in our system unless we were buying him as a CM.
 
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what is the best source/site to find out a players position played throughout a season ?
Trasnfermarkt because you can see what they have played in each game. The only issue is when it says Left or Right Midfield, this can be either the wing or wing back.

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Yeah I’ve seen the starts and stats break down on Transfer Market. Seeing as he’s played a great deal on the left wing, supposedly his natural position according to scout reports, and is right footed, even tho he’s also very strong on his left, I don’t see us bringing in him and Nusa in even if Rowe has played marginally more on the right this season. In general I don’t see us adding more then 1 young winger even if Gil goes. The advantage of bringing in Rowe is that he’s comfortable ether wing but we aren’t going to signing two young right footers who naturally play on the left.
Maybe Rowe is more two footed than you think. 5 of his 11 goals were scored with his right foot, but 4 were with his left and the other 2 with his head.

He is also massively outperforming his xG (11 goals from an xG of 4.29), so it Is possible we see him as a long term Son replacement.
 

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That may be the case but from what I’ve seen (and the data backs this up) he is still not the kind of wide player we are really missing (a 2 way dribbling specialist).

Rowe seems to do a lot of his best work in central areas which would be minimised if he played in our system unless we were buying him as a CM.
what's the data between the two of their ball carrying?? or is it just positional data you're looking at
 

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Do we need another wide player? I really think we need a CM before thinking about another wide player.
Strongly disagree. First, because we should sign youngsters like this whatever position they play - he isn’t being looked at to go straight into the first team. But even if we were, Lolo, Madders, Sarr, Biss, GLC, Hojbjerg, Skipp plus Kulu as an option at 10 is very strong. People loan about PEH and I agree he doesn’t fit our style, but as our 3rd best 6 and arguably 4th choice 8 he really isn’t a problem. We don’t have anywhere near that depth in the forward positions.
 

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Think we can do better tbh.

We've already got Johnson who's our 'project' winger.

Would rather go for someone who can challenge for a starting spot straight away.
 

Nick-TopSpursMan

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what's the data between the two of their ball carrying?? or is it just positional data you're looking at

Here you go mate, two screenshots of their possession data. The ones with loads of 99th percentile stats are Nusa, the one with weaker data is Rowe. This is with them both profiled as wingers/AMs. If you profile Rowe as a midfielder his stats improve as he’s up against cms and cams etc.
 

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HildoSpur

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Here you go mate, two screenshots of their possession data. The ones with loads of 99th percentile stats are Nusa, the one with weaker data is Rowe. This is with them both profiled as wingers/AMs. If you profile Rowe as a midfielder his stats improve as he’s up against cms and cams etc.
Not sure how much you can actually determine from this comparison considering they play in different leagues at different levels. For all we know Rowe would have similar looking data if he played in the same league as Nusa.
 

archiewasking

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Think we can do better tbh.

We've already got Johnson who's our 'project' winger.

Would rather go for someone who can challenge for a starting spot straight away.
Unless Ange wants him and isn't convinced by Johnson.
 

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Maybe Rowe is more two footed than you think. 5 of his 11 goals were scored with his right foot, but 4 were with his left and the other 2 with his head.

He is also massively outperforming his xG (11 goals from an xG of 4.29), so it Is possible we see him as a long term Son replacement.
I’m not saying I don’t like Rowe. That wasn’t really my point. My point was that I can’t see us bringing both Nusa and Rowe and for me personally I think Nusa is a really special talent.
 

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Interesting that the majority of attackers we seem to be linked with aren’t necessarily the 1 on 1 specialists.. is this data driven, or Ange changing his style from what we presumed it would be?
 

Ghost Hardware

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Not sure how much you can actually determine from this comparison considering they play in different leagues at different levels. For all we know Rowe would have similar looking data if he played in the same league as Nusa.
Worth keeping in mind Rowe (20) is also two years older than Nusa (18). Not only that Nusa already has 4 caps and 1 goal for Norway. Imo Nusa is a very special talent.
 
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