Tottenham Takeover Talk

[For the love of Spurs]

Be interesting to know the exact % amongst our fanbase, but I think you're way off.
If I had to guess I'd say 2/3 want rid of Levy and Enic, but possibly much more.

Can’t see much sampling but I would have you about right at 2/3rds, it’s certainly a majority. Checked on Glory glory no poll, they have one on Fighting Cock and it’s a huge 84.8% out so over 3/4.

 

[Albertbarich]

Have you ever thought, if there is only a minority that wants Enic and Levy out? It's just a thought, from my side.

Of course it is.

If you want them in it's a minority, if you want them out it's a majority.

That's how I think it works

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Of course it is.

If you want them in it's a minority, if you want them out it's a majority.

That's how I think it works

Well, we're about to find out.

Poll started

ENIC - The Poll

Normally, I wouldn't even think about a new thread on something that's been done to death but this time it feels like a bit of a watershed moment amongst the fans. Some people might not be happy with how the question is framed because there might be some who'd be happy for ENIC to stay...

www.spurscommunity.co.uk

 

[GMI]

If these guys are after a minority stake, and willing to leave Levy in his current role, you would have to think the chanting at the game last night would have made them think. They're not into for the money primarily but taking a stake in the club where there are protests against the owner and chairman you are looking to deal with would surely factor into their decision making process?. I'm just playing devils advocate and may be way off base. Also, the away support last night was insanely good.

 

[McFlash]

Have you ever thought, if there is only a minority that wants Enic and Levy out? It's just a thought, from my side.

Have you seen the poll? ?

 

[Clockspur]

Why would there be a cash injection?

Although to keep spurs valuable we need to keep making champs league


What happens when the oil drys

Like they could find a buyer for Davidson Sanchez?

Whooooooah

 

[Clockspur]

If these guys are after a minority stake, and willing to leave Levy in his current role, you would have to think the chanting at the game last night would have made them think. They're not into for the money primarily but taking a stake in the club where there are protests against the owner and chairman you are looking to deal with would surely factor into their decision making process?. I'm just playing devils advocate and may be way off base. Also, the away support last night was insanely good.

Our away support is easily top 5 in the country - we sell out, we’re loud and we go everywhere. Love our fans

 

[Ravenyonaz]

Be interesting to know the exact % amongst our fanbase, but I think you're way off.
If I had to guess I'd say 2/3 want rid of Levy and Enic, but possibly much more.

I did not say anything about if it is a minority or not. I just wanted to point out that we don't really know.

 

[Gb160]

I did not say anything about if it is a minority or not. I just wanted to point out that we don't really know.

We now know mate, look at the poll...

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

I did not say anything about if it is a minority or not. I just wanted to point out that we don't really know.

We had a pretty good idea...

I would say, outside of the Poll results, the best evidence has been a combination of supporters singing for Antonio, and also chanting Levy Out at matches.

I don't think you get the level of commitment if its just a small minority of people who want ENIC out.


Now - a lot of that may simply be building frustration without any real thought about the consequences of ENIC out - but, the sentiment is widespread.

 

[Ravenyonaz]

Have you seen the poll? ?

Yes I have. The members here are pretty clear in their wish for Enic out.

 

[Karol]

Yes I have. The members here are pretty clear in their wish for Enic out.

It's not just here though

I was always in a minority amongst my family and friends who support Spurs

Now the majority of them have had enough of enic and levy and want them gone

 

[McFlash]

Yes I have. The members here are pretty clear in their wish for Enic out.

And I'd say that the members on here are a pretty good representation of our fanbase.
If the poll is over 80% in here, I reckon it'll be the same everywhere, if not higher.

 

[PaulThurston]

And I'd say that the members on here are a pretty good representation of our fanbase.
If the poll is over 80% in here, I reckon it'll be the same everywhere, if not higher.

I think that's a dangerous assumption.

Anyone who goes to the trouble of registering on a Spurs fansite is probably a person who takes an active interst in the structure of the club and what's happening. The same is going to be true of those who go to games, especially away games as you need to be extremely well invested to go to enough home games to even get away tickets.

Outside of that though there are many people who identify as Spurs fans who may live too far away from the ground for it to ever be practical to go to a match. I grew up in Devon but was very much a Spurs fan. I knew who was manager and all the players names and painted my Subbuteo team up as the '81 team. I scraped the skin off my knuckles on the artex of our ceiling when Villa scored in the replay but I didn't know who Irving Scholar was.

It's different now with social media and the Internet but how many of the Korean fans know who ENIC are? Do most of the junior fans care? Some will, kids these days are very sharp and the ones near us are likely to have assimilated our views but are they a majority? it's impossible to say. How many Spurs fans actually are there in the World? I don't know. I've supported Spurs since 1970 but until the last four or five years I didn't take any notice of ENIC or think about the way they ran the club.

There may very well be a majority of fans who are ENIC out now but I don't think we can know that from a poll on a Spurs forum where we live and breathe every little thing which happens. It's interesting to see what proportion of the forum members now oppose the owners but you can't validy extrapolate that out to the entire world.

For the record I've always given them the benefit of the doubt as I could see the progress, even if it were at a glacial pace. That was always on th eproviso though that when we were in the position to do so we started investing in the team and it's not happening and I'd now like someone whose primary focus is the football team to take over. For that reason I'm out.

That was quite cathartic. I feel better now.

 

[McFlash]

I think that's a dangerous assumption.

Anyone who goes to the trouble of registering on a Spurs fansite is probably a person who takes an active interst in the structure of the club and what's happening. The same is going to be true of those who go to games, especially away games as you need to be extremely well invested to go to enough home games to even get away tickets.

Outside of that though there are many people who identify as Spurs fans who may live too far away from the ground for it to ever be practical to go to a match. I grew up in Devon but was very much a Spurs fan. I knew who was manager and all the players names and painted my Subbuteo team up as the '81 team. I scraped the skin off my knuckles on the artex of our ceiling when Villa scored in the replay but I didn't know who Irving Scholar was.

It's different now with social media and the Internet but how many of the Korean fans know who ENIC are? Do most of the junior fans care? Some will, kids these days are very sharp and the ones near us are likely to have assimilated our views but are they a majority? it's impossible to say. How many Spurs fans actually are there in the World? I don't know. I've supported Spurs since 1970 but until the last four or five years I didn't take any notice of ENIC or think about the way they ran the club.

There may very well be a majority of fans who are ENIC out now but I don't think we can know that from a poll on a Spurs forum where we live and breathe every little thing which happens. It's interesting to see what proportion of the forum members now oppose the owners but you can't validy extrapolate that out to the entire world.

For the record I've always given them the benefit of the doubt as I could see the progress, even if it were at a glacial pace. That was always on th eproviso though that when we were in the position to do so we started investing in the team and it's not happening and I'd now like someone whose primary focus is the football team to take over. For that reason I'm out.

That was quite cathartic. I feel better now.

Nice post and I pretty much agree with everything you say.
With that said, I wasn't meaning to infer every Spurs fan in the entire world, that would be a daft assumption to make.

I was thinking more of the match going, merch buying and invested fans.
The core that Levy/ENIC will have to listen to... ok, maybe not have to listen to but whose voices will be heard.

 

[PaulThurston]

Nice post and I pretty much agree with everything you say.
With that said, I wasn't meaning to infer every Spurs fan in the entire world, that would be a daft assumption to make.

I was thinking more of the match going, merch buying and invested fans.
The core that Levy/ENIC will have to listen to... ok, maybe not have to listen to but whose voices will be heard.

Yes, I agree with that. The invested fans know what's happening and the forum is likely to be a fair sample.

 

[y1dk1d]

Seems like it’s certainly concrete, but maybe not as exciting or as close as first hoped. From the buyers POV, QSI considering United, it shows they’re not sure who they want to invest in yet so still very exploratory.

Same with us as the seller. Not sure what sort of stake we want to sell but potentially looking to sell to someone else who’s willing to buy a higher stake.

Still seems some way off and if it is QSI I’m a bit underwhelmed at the 15% tbh

 

[TheAmerican]

United want a full sale, it would appear. That would take them off the list for QSI.

 

[Mackan110]

How much would QSI be allowed to own in spurs and still be able to play in CL?

Think I saw something that RB Leipzig and RB Salzburg now are allowed to compete in CL even they have the same owner

 

[kendoddsdadsdogsdead]

I’d rather a full sale for us. I can’t see the club being run any differently with a minority investment. I’ll take my chances with anyone else.