Tottenham Vs Benfica: Match Thread

[guiltyparty]

Performance wise. Our displays under AVB were dire, no attacking whatsoever unless Bale took it and ran. Dawson had the ball for most of the 90 mins and it actually made me lose interest in football altogether! There's no arguing that our football was so negative, at least we used to score under Sherwood, however now it's just seems they're a bunch of headless chickens.

What did you see in AVB's management that made you positive about him? Serious question

"Used to be" being the operative term

He had classic new manager uplift. Since first few games we've been terrible, all over the shop and more reliant on Adebayor than we ever were on Bale. If he plays shit, we lose, without fail.

AVB certainly served up some dull displays but at least he looked like he had a plan of some kind, ish. Sherwood chops and changes every single match, bizarre team selections, no continuity, stupid outbursts, predictable results

Perhaps it genuinely is our thoughtless, careless player horde, but at least AVB was professional in his demeanour and had shown he could do it before so you thought it might come good. Maybe. If the wind was right

I just don't see how people have faith, or can get excited at all, in Sherwood. He looks clueless, Redknapp lite, total chancer. Cat out of bag I guess. I've tried to sit on the fence but he winds me right up

Starting Kane ahead of Soldado when the latter has just scored his first goal in ages is up there with the most ridiculous decisions I've ever seen

Sticking Eriksen out on the left in a 442 is batshit too

Sure I'll regret this in the morning but can we just have a manager who picks the right players in the right formation?

Anyone

 

[paulcumpstone]

where do I start?...oh...yeah...we're shit..

p.s. lennon is a useless c*nt (just felt like I have to pick on one)

i think you picked the right one, can you name me the last time he was MOTM or the pick of the bunch?? doesn't do enough.

 

[millsey]

Yeah the same board who hired these managers...the buck stops with them I'm afraid.

And we didn't magic £100m out of thin air, if you recall we sold players last summer, one for a world record fee.

You think every club our size spends all the money they get in? As for AVB, he had about 99 percent approval rating on here when we brought him in. Along with most of us creaming ourselves at the summer signings

 

[UncleBuck]

If you are able to watch the goal again from the side-way camera angle, you'll change your opinion. He should have pushed the ball sideways, but he mis-judged the bounce and pushed it with his wrong hand.

Trust me mate, I'm not watching that again so i'll take your word on it!!!
Had too much rum to debate anyway...:-/

 

[paulcumpstone]

i think the biggest problem with this spurs side is we create literally fuck all, hence when we concede we know we are buggered, apart from the adebayor chance i can't recall us creating anything.

 

[worcestersauce]

I don't think I've ever been so devoid of any hope before a NLD before. Even with teams much worse than this there was a little something that made me believe, maybe delusion I don't know. Arsenal will, sadly, murder us on Sunday to top off what has been a shocking season.

Speaking of which, in relative terms, has this been our worst PL season ever? Obviously we've had worse teams and played similarly crap football, but the context was different. Given the signings in the summer and the expectations we had coming into this season, I'd say this season is definitely amongst the very worst in the past couple of decades.

Nope, the season when we blew third and gifted it to arsenal and missed out on CL by chelsea becoming champions of Europe outstrips this one for pure gut wrenching soul destroying waste of nine months of my life by miles. This one is a pimple on my bum in comparison.
Just back from the game and they were quite simply better than us, a class above I'm afraid.
A quick question; who in our squad could have scored their first goal?

 

[Mr Pink]

Nervous? Not really.

I want to win the portuguese league. If we win the Europa League, ok, that's very good but first i want to win the league.

Good luck with the League. Played very well tonight even though I'm very disappointed with our showing.

 

[Shadydan]

You think every club our size spends all the money they get in? As for AVB, he had about 99 percent approval rating on here when we brought him in. Along with most of us creaming ourselves at the summer signings

I don't see your point.

The bottom line is we did spend the money, just because we didn't spend it wisely doesn't mean the above shouldn't be held accountable.

Also in regards to AVB, again your point is kind of irrelevant. AVB didn't work out, who's fault is it? The same way that if a manager hired someone and they didn't live up to expectation and were eventually sacked, who's fault would it be?

 

[idontgetit]

Not far off what I would want (on the assumption that Vertonghen's off):

Yep love that. Dembele/Sandro is a really good partnership. The only issue is that I've never felt comfortable with the balance of our other DM pairings if we are going to stick with the same formation.

The other thing I wouldn't mind is a City style 4-2-2-2 like

But again it only really works with those players.

The 4-3-3 gives us a system where we can rotate players through as much as we want and barely disrupt the team dynamic.

 

[millsey]

I don't see your point.

The bottom line is we did spend the money, just because we didn't spend it wisely doesn't mean the above shouldn't be held accountable.

Also in regards to AVB, again your point is kind of irrelevant. AVB didn't work out, who's fault is it? The same way that if a manager hired someone and they didn't live up to expectation and were eventually sacked, who's fault would it be?

But if we hired mourinho and it didn't work out, do you blame levy? Maybe it's just a bit of luck in appointments. Or bad luck in our case. We just have to make sure we get the next one right

 

[we_all_loved_freund]

I'd of enjoyed watching Stoke more than us tonight. Since when did we become a long ball team?

New manager syndrome helped us initially and Tim begged for us to give him time on the training ground to get the team playing 'his way'. Since he has had time with the team our performances have got steadily worse. If that is 'his way', he know's exactly where he can take it.

 

[Shadydan]

But if we hired mourinho and it didn't work out, do you blame levy? Maybe it's just a bit of luck in appointments. Or bad luck in our case. We just have to make sure we get the next one right

But we didn't hire Mourinho though

Look at the managers hired and fired...you can't say it's down to bad luck. We are on our 4th manager since 2008, where's the stability and continuation?

 

[millsey]

But we didn't hire Mourinho though

Look at the managers hired and fired...you can't say it's down to bad luck. We are on our 4th manager since 2008, where's the stability and continuation?

Agreed we have to sign an experienced world class manager. Van gaal will do for me

 

[TheGreenLily]

I don't see your point.

The bottom line is we did spend the money, just because we didn't spend it wisely doesn't mean the above shouldn't be held accountable.

Also in regards to AVB, again your point is kind of irrelevant. AVB didn't work out, who's fault is it? The same way that if a manager hired someone and they didn't live up to expectation and were eventually sacked, who's fault would it be?

We did spend it wisely....

AVB was not given time to integrate the signings, most of them had no pre-season, AVB was under massive pressure to get results...

DAMN IT, no other club has ever brought seven, "YES SEVEN", highly rated players in one season and they have all failed. So it is obviously not the players, but something else has gone drastically wrong at the club.

Leave them alone, they are far from shite players and the money spent was far from not being spent wisely.

We brought in a great bunch, would should have spent a little extra and filled a few key positions like LB that really need filling.

 

[millsey]

Out of interest, anyone know what kind of money Benfica spent on building there superb team?

 

[millsey]

We did spend it wisely....

AVB was not given time to integrate the signings, most of them had no pre-season, AVB was under massive pressure to get results...

DAMN IT, no other club has ever brought seven, "YES SEVEN", highly rated players in one season and they have all failed. So it is obviously not the players, but something else has gone drastically wrong at the club.

Leave them alone, they are far from shite players and the money spent was far from not being spent wisely.

We brought in a great bunch, would should have spent a little extra and filled a few key positions like LB that really need filling.

Haven't all failed. We needed a manager to get a system for the players he brought. Currently most of them look duds. Surely paulinho can't play like this for Brazil??

 

[Shadydan]

We did spend it wisely....

AVB was not given time to integrate the signings, most of them had no pre-season, AVB was under massive pressure to get results...

DAMN IT, no other club has ever brought seven, "YES SEVEN", highly rated players in one season and they have all failed. So it is obviously not the players, but something else has gone drastically wrong at the club.

Leave them alone, they are far from shite players and the money spent was far from not being spent wisely.

We brought in a great bunch, would should have spent a little extra and filled a few key positions like LB that really need filling.

We didn't spend it wisely because we had no clear plan for them, I said nothing about them being shit players.

As far as I'm concerned, we didn't need 7 players nor did we have to blow all the cash to cover our returns, what's more is that we failed to strengthen the left back position when clearly that was in need of cover.

I think the player we brought though will eventually come good if they are given the correct coaching but it's obvious we made a complete mess of this summer.

 

[CrazyHeart]

I'm sure Sherwood is a really nice guy, but he SUCKS as a head coach. The football has consistently blown under him and the Pointer Sisters are about to release a new single in his honour : "It's raining goals... hallelujah!"... Anybody who thinks Sherwood is still a better option than letting AVB finish out the season needs their freakin' heads examined. I'm done with this guy - he's in over his head! It's going to be down to the players now, who've now been demoralised thanks to our loose-lipped youth coach. Before you ask... YES, many of us DID see this coming!

I wish Tim all the best in whatever he does, but puleeeze! This is just ridiculous now... Harry Kane?! What the FRAK! We can't even string a couple of passes together anymore! I can't wait 'til we get a pro to handle the job! That's if they'll even come now after Levy's Darth Vader choke style antics, to those who can't complete the Death Star in one month without any time to lay any foundations! I'm done! What happened to my club?!

 

[LSUY]

Out of interest, anyone know what kind of money Benfica spent on building there superb team?

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/sl-benfica/transfers/verein_294.html

According to the above they spent just over £34.2m and made £34.8m in sales this season.

 

[postigol]

We did spend it wisely....

AVB was not given time to integrate the signings, most of them had no pre-season, AVB was under massive pressure to get results...

DAMN IT, no other club has ever brought seven, "YES SEVEN", highly rated players in one season and they have all failed. So it is obviously not the players, but something else has gone drastically wrong at the club.

Leave them alone, they are far from shite players and the money spent was far from not being spent wisely.

We brought in a great bunch, would should have spent a little extra and filled a few key positions like LB that really need filling.

Eriksen and Chriches haven't failed. So really we've only wasted £26m+£30m+£7m+£17m+£11m=£91m.